The idea of Human/AI intimate relationships turn me on

[NormannTheDoorman]

Slightly, if it's even possible for such a relationship to exist.

 

[The Void]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsikPswAYUM
http://gizmodo.com/5409175/guy-marries-video-game-we-dont-judge

Spoiler

I am in love with the girl from the universe that I myself created but I tortured her and the killed her and set the universe to an infinite loop. I am one benevolent God.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I read some mid range sci-fi, where the purpose to develop higher A.I was to have a soulmate or a companion for the designer.

It might have been John Ringo of "There Will be Dragons"

Man remade a cat into a human being with improved intelligence to have a partner.
Obviously didn't end well for him, this girl was pretty cat like.

As for the relationships that exist now:
You are much more intimate with your technology than you are with others.
You don't mind being yourself, undressing, writing e-mails, watching or reading content in private, yes in a private world that you access through the technology. Very intimate in this way, or simply discrete.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

Would I classify as a robosexual?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Would I classify as a robosexual?

We mostly are. When did you last use your dishwasher, car or telephone.

What's funnier you were actually inside the car .

 

[Minuend]

This could be an interesting topic if OP elaborated more. Either on the topic in general or own thoughts/ feelings on the matter. As it is now there isn't really anything to discuss or analyze.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

This could be an interesting topic if OP elaborated more. Either on the topic in general or own thoughts/ feelings on the matter. As it is now there isn't really anything to discuss or analyze.

I'll do my best. I'm on a mobile device.

I assume once we fully understand human intelligence then working on getting a human like AI wold be easier.

Would being in an intimate relationship with one that has such capabilities be justified?

Justified in a way that it's the same as being in one with an actual human.

I kind of started this to spawn a conversation.

 

[Cognisant]

Would a consenting relationship with a sexually mature alien be beastiality?

A mindless sex toy is okay and a consenting sentient being is okay, the problem is the middle ground between the two, a sophisticated sex toy may be able to think and learn to some degree without necessarily being self aware and what of a sentient being that's designed to want to be a sex toy, indeed how do we quantify a normal sex drive?

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKYEm7XeLJg

Something related - Tetsuo: The Iron Man.
Radiation seems to have an effect on the human brain...

 

[Cognisant]

If a video is over 20min be sure to mention it as most people won't be willing to commit the time to watch it and those who are on prepaid data plans don't appreciate losing chunks of it.

Interesting case Void brought up, there's guys in Japan who do similar things with dolls and manga characters and the psychology of it fascinates me, Japan is one of the few countries with a higher proportion of young females than males. In my time over there I have seen a few guys that were making the most of it, their girlfriends following them around almost slavishly, but there also seems to be a significant proportion of the population who (like the guy in the video) seem more interested in idealised depictions of women than women themselves.

The natural assumption is that they're just pathetic losers that went mad from loneliness, which to some extent is probably true, but the effort they put into it baffles me, it's as if they're not so much sexually frustrated as romantically frustrated which results in this kind of masturbation of courtship and spouse behaviour. I suppose it's similar to infertile couples having pets as surrogate children and the habit of children to cling to certain things (in particular blankets or soft toys) for a sense of security, the instinct to cling is deeply rooted in simians for which a security blanket may serve as a surrogate parent.

 

[Minuend]

Why have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

Aversion to marriage and intimacy in modern life is not unique to Japan. Nor is growing preoccupation with digital technology. But what endless Japanese committees have failed to grasp when they stew over the country's procreation-shy youth is that, thanks to official shortsightedness, the decision to stay single often makes perfect sense

Japanese women have become more independent and ambitious. Yet conservative attitudes in the home and workplace persist. Japan's punishing corporate world makes it almost impossible for women to combine a career and family, while children are unaffordable unless both parents work.

Romantic commitment seems to represent burden and drudgery, from the exorbitant costs of buying property in Japan to the uncertain expectations of a spouse and in-laws. And the centuries-old belief that the purpose of marriage is to produce children endures.

Satoru Kishino, 31, belongs to a large tribe of men under 40 who are engaging in a kind of passive rebellion against traditional Japanese masculinity. Amid the recession and unsteady wages, men like Kishino feel that the pressure on them to be breadwinning economic warriors for a wife and family is unrealistic. They are rejecting the pursuit of both career and romantic success.

"Both men and women say to me they don't see the point of love. They don't believe it can lead anywhere," says Aoyama. "Relationships have become too hard."

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

The natural assumption is that they're just pathetic losers that went mad from loneliness, which to some extent is probably true, but the effort they put into it baffles me, it's as if they're not so much sexually frustrated as romantically frustrated which results in this kind of masturbation of courtship and spouse behaviour. I suppose it's similar to infertile couples having pets as surrogate children and the habit of children to cling to certain things (in particular blankets or soft toys) for a sense of security, the instinct to cling is deeply rooted in simians for which a security blanket may serve as a surrogate parent.

That's pretty much what i think too.

If a video is over 20min be sure to mention it as most people won't be willing to commit the time to watch it and those who are on prepaid data plans don't appreciate losing chunks of it.

It's a cult classic movie from japan that is famous for exploring the human-machine relationship.
Don't thank me for giving you the link for the full version.
People who have the time to watch it will and those who don't are free to just have a look at a trailer.
I will be kind enough to save you 5 seconds of search-engine-o-rama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uROMTzJsfOI

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

I'll watch it here in a bit.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

My God! You never took middle school hygiene? You never saw the propaganda film?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqGTn7PCBw

 

[Cognisant]

They are rejecting the pursuit of both career and romantic success.

I can see that, in the modern world where practically endless entertainment is a mere click away the ratio of happiness to effort is drastically skewed in favour of being an apathetic shut in, sure we could invest more physical/mental/emotional effort in pursuing success but the proportional return on investment diminishes rapidly.

"Both men and women say to me they don't see the point of love. They don't believe it can lead anywhere," says Aoyama. "Relationships have become too hard."

Relationships have always be hard and now that they're arguably not worth the effort it's even harder because even if you're willing to go the distance there's no guarantee that the other person is.

 

[BigApplePi]

I can see that, in the modern world where practically endless entertainment is a mere click away the ratio of happiness to effort is drastically skewed in favour of being an apathetic shut in, sure we could invest more physical/mental/emotional effort in pursuing success but the proportional return on investment diminishes rapidly.


Relationships have always be hard and now that they're arguably not worth the effort it's even harder because even if you're willing to go the distance there's no guarantee that the other person is.

I've been married for thirty years and that enables me to avail myself of endless entertainment, be an apathetic shut in, as well as going outside messing with nature and keeping up sporting activities. I had to put some time and effort in to get there though.

 

[Cognisant]

Thirty years, so did you marry your high-school/college sweetheart or are you over fifty?

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

AFAIK BAP is now in his seventies, so he would have married around his late thirties, early forties.
This brings to my attention: Why is it forties and not fourties?

 

[Pizzabeak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKYEm7XeLJg

Something related - Tetsuo: The Iron Man.
Radiation seems to have an effect on the human brain...

This movie is apparently about a dude that likes to fuck.. He apparently runs around town and just tries to fuck, which is why they call him the Iron Man, and they combine to form a giant penis at the end.. It's also an asian production as that seems to be a thing in their culture. Ever notice how women get beat in a large portion of Japanese films?

Other than that, there were some other obvious attempts at conveying a human-machine consequential relationship.. Why not? I guess if such a thing were to take place it would require large amounts of responsibility on the human's part as well as some willingness.. It would have to be recognized as some next step to take, natural or not.. I suppose people wouldn't have to give up too much though, depending on the specifics.