Stupidest Thing You Repeatedly Do

[dutchdisease]

I am throwing down the gauntlet on this one against every other INTP member. I believe I would win the award for stupidest repeated action ever in the history of of INTP kind. I challenge you to think of something worse that you all do.

I have some significant reason to believe that I am allergic to fish (seems like some more than others). Sometimes I will get no reaction while other times I think I am going to die. So why don't I just avoid fish if it might eventually kill me by putting my into anaphylactic shock you might ask???? Well I still live under the roof of one of my parents and that parent enjoys fish. I would for some reason actually rather risk dying than taking away something they like from them. Oh and I just did so again tonight with very unpleasant results. WTF is wrong with me?

Any challengers?

 

[Brontosaurie]

Does nothing count as a thing?

 

[headspace]

Use tinder

 

[Frankie]

Does nothing count as a thing?

No one ever actually does nothing.

 

[Sinny91]

Expect people to change..

 

[nanook]

social anxiety, avoidant behavior, avoiding experiments that would have a 9 out of 10 failure rate, because i don't want to feel bad 9 times just to feel good 1 time, so basically:
- feeling

i have managed to overcome all food addictions. some of them were allergic foods. one can be addicted to the stress hormones evoked by subtle allergies/immune reactions. all cooked foods evoke at least some immune reaction. some raw foods do.

to make changes like this, i need present moment based insight, that means understanding of the situation, how my body relates to that food. this understanding does not change, when i feel good or bad emotionally, when i feel like my gut is more or less leaky, when i am in various sorts of companies or have more or less need for social acceptance or when i feel far away or closer to my weight loss or health goals, etc, it is always true and relevant. i walk through the mal and have precise understanding of why 99% of those foodstuffs are toxic to all human beings and i am disgusted by them, despite the fact, that i have a vague memory of how enjoyable their taste was. speaking of memories, i do also remember how much it sucks to feel the toxins/the immune reactions, etc, kick in moments later, however this memory was never reliable enough, since i have poor memory. even this year i would still occasionally fall for gluten based pasta, because i forgot about the feeling of it and didn't have enough present moment based insight. gluten is not properly digestible to humans, this has nothing to do with celiacs. partially undigested food causes various problems in the gut, depending on other circumstances in the gut. it's the only plant based staple food, that i am aware of, that causes severe indigestion (most indigestion is caused by animal products, fat + protein rich foods). indigestion negatively impacts the digestion of all other foods (fermentation, purification, growth of bad bacteria, gasses going upwards and into the lungs, into the blood, affecting wellbeing like nicotine would ...). partially digested gluten contains opioids that can cause short term bliss but long term depression and even psychosis, in some individuals. i just have to know everything about everything, to deal with reality ...

if you want to learn some things about fish, check out nutritionfacts.org

don't blame yourself, when you have symptoms with a food. it's probably the foods fault. people who have developed tolerances for toxic food are not at an advantage. the food destroys them just the same, they will just remain unaware of it, until they drop dead. gimmic: populations that eat fish have shrunk balls. or was that about chicken? anyhow, they have shrunk brains.

although, if you have ruined your gut health with toxic foods, or do horrible food combining, many perfect foods (fruits, vegetables) may also cause symptoms, in that case you sort of have to find the fault in your system and habits.

 

[Jennywocky]

No one ever actually does nothing.

Let's just not do anything instead and call it even.

 

[Frankie]

Let's just not do anything instead and call it even.

That's something at least.

We keep doing something. Isn't that stupid?

 

[QuickTwist]

Buy tobacco paraphernalia. I have encouraged this habit by finding the absolute cheapest way to smoke tobacco.

 

[dutchdisease]

social anxiety, avoidant behavior, avoiding experiments that would have a 9 out of 10 failure rate, because i don't want to feel bad 9 times just to feel good 1 time, so basically:
- feeling

i have managed to overcome all food addictions. some of them were allergic foods. one can be addicted to the stress hormones evoked by subtle allergies/immune reactions. all cooked foods evoke at least some immune reaction. some raw foods do.

to make changes like this, i need present moment based insight, that means understanding of the situation, how my body relates to that food. this understanding does not change, when i feel good or bad emotionally, when i feel like my gut is more or less leaky, when i am in various sorts of companies or have more or less need for social acceptance or when i feel far away or closer to my weight loss or health goals, etc, it is always true and relevant. i walk through the mal and have precise understanding of why 99% of those foodstuffs are toxic to all human beings and i am disgusted by them, despite the fact, that i have a vague memory of how enjoyable their taste was. speaking of memories, i do also remember how much it sucks to feel the toxins/the immune reactions, etc, kick in moments later, however this memory was never reliable enough, since i have poor memory. even this year i would still occasionally fall for gluten based pasta, because i forgot about the feeling of it and didn't have enough present moment based insight. gluten is not properly digestible to humans, this has nothing to do with celiacs. partially undigested food causes various problems in the gut, depending on other circumstances in the gut. it's the only plant based staple food, that i am aware of, that causes severe indigestion (most indigestion is caused by animal products, fat + protein rich foods). indigestion negatively impacts the digestion of all other foods (fermentation, purification, growth of bad bacteria, gasses going upwards and into the lungs, into the blood, affecting wellbeing like nicotine would ...). partially digested gluten contains opioids that can cause short term bliss but long term depression and even psychosis, in some individuals. i just have to know everything about everything, to deal with reality ...

if you want to learn some things about fish, check out nutritionfacts.org

don't blame yourself, when you have symptoms with a food. it's probably the foods fault. people who have developed tolerances for toxic food are not at an advantage. the food destroys them just the same, they will just remain unaware of it, until they drop dead. gimmic: populations that eat fish have shrunk balls. or was that about chicken? anyhow, they have shrunk brains.

although, if you have ruined your gut health with toxic foods, or do horrible food combining, many perfect foods (fruits, vegetables) may also cause symptoms, in that case you sort of have to find the fault in your system and habits.

Alright I gotta be honest you are to me the strangest member on here in my eyes. I can't tell if you are intelligent or drugged out of your mind (no malice meant). Since you are very bent on nutrition and its implications could you tell me (take as long as you have to) what is it exactly that humans are supposed to eat that would put them in the best health. I'm a bit skeptical because I have found thousands of answers to questions like this and none of them seem to be the same aside from stay away from high fructose corn syrup and other fatty foods. So give me a run-down of your views on everything and don't be afraid to ramble in any direction you please.

 

[nanook]

already dropped the truth bomb. fruits and veggies. raw food. mostly fruit and lettuce. if it doesn't taste without spices, etc, don't eat it. we are animals. apes! and when you get sick, fast to speed up recovery. only the body can heal, medication suppresses symptoms required for healing. it's entirely up to you to look out for the evidence. how well people who do this are, compared to those who don't. this requires visual evidence, not smart arguments. we can certainly get away fine with eating a whole food diet rich in cooked starches (china study, okinawa, the starch solution) but to be excellent it has to be raw food. whoever wants to see the truth, can see it. paleo people be dropping dead left and right. in capitalism everybody wants to sell you products. you need more protein, more omega 3, more vitamin x, yadayada. you live in a commercial. wake up from the matrix.

 

[Brontosaurie]

No one ever actually does nothing.

That's like saying no one ever actually does their laundry.

 

[Tannhauser]

whoever wants to see the truth, can see it.

Is that like a filler-statement people slip in when they have no real arguments whatsoever?

@OP: my stupid thing: coffee. It usually fucks up my stomach and my sleep patterns, but it feels so good when you drink it

 

[Sinny91]

Is that like a filler-statement people slip in when they have no real arguments whatsoever?

If I may take the opportunity to remind you of our discussion, which left me pondering the same (In the context that is our discussion) ..

When you're ready, no rush, I know you've just returned.

 

[Tannhauser]

If I may take the opportunity to remind you of our discussion, which left me pondering the same (In the context that is our discussion) ..

When you're ready, no rush, I know you've just returned.

Yes, I might have to take some time on that one. There were many things to consider

 

[Seteleechete]

I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet... Procrastinate I consider it worse than "doing nothing" as that is at least occasionally relaxing.

 

[The Grey Man]

I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet... Procrastinate I consider it worse than "doing nothing" as that is at least occasionally relaxing.

I was going to mention it, but a post that consists of the word "wait" seemed like a waste...so I waited for someone else so that I could pad it into a cheeky self-referential reply.

Yes, waiting is a bad one for me, especially for making things happen that won't unless I become actively involved.

 

[bvanevery]

I would for some reason actually rather risk dying than taking away something they like from them.

That's dumb as bricks dude. If you don't eat fish it takes nothing from them. It might insult their choice of food provision, but if your life is on the line....

I don't do anything remotely that dumb. Sometimes I drink too much coffee and have to dry out for a few days, that's about it.

 

[Yellow]

Fuck off. I piddle away so much time doing nothing productive.

 

[QuickTwist]

I also am one of the most unproductive people I know.

 

[dutchdisease]

That's dumb as bricks dude. If you don't eat fish it takes nothing from them. It might insult their choice of food provision, but if your life is on the line....

I don't do anything remotely that dumb. Sometimes I drink too much coffee and have to dry out for a few days, that's about it.

Oh yes, agreed completely. Perhaps my mind has become warped. Anyway if my insurance covers it maybe i'll go see if I can hunt down an allergist. My symptoms are oddly inconsistent so I would't be surprised if i were allergic to something in the fish. Parasite maybe?

 

[bvanevery]

Heavy metals? PCBs? Dyes? Farmed Atlantic salmon are typically fed something that makes their flesh look pink. Without the additive, it would look gray, which would be unappetizing to most people expecting salmon. Their farm diet is very different from what they'd get in the wild.

 

[Lot]

I complain about being lonely, but I don't make plans to go out, or talk to women I think are interesting. I hate my job, but I haven't sent in an application for another. I have pain issue that are solved by stretching every morning, but I don't start stretching until I hurt really bad again. I'm a procrastinator. Turns out adult life isn't like waiting for a test or to turn in a paper. No cramming at the last min, no study guide.

 

[Sinny91]

I'm one of the most productive unproductive people I know.

I have a number of educational projects on the go, so even if I sit arse glued to laptop/phone/books all day, chances are I've usually made some progression in at least one of my endeavors.

I'm also that invested in the material I've decided to study that I could be high as fuck or drunk as a skunk and I'd still belligerently be trying to update a project aha.

 

[dutchdisease]

Heavy metals? PCBs? Dyes? Farmed Atlantic salmon are typically fed something that makes their flesh look pink. Without the additive, it would look gray, which would be unappetizing to most people expecting salmon. Their farm diet is very different from what they'd get in the wild.

Oddly enough i'm fairly certain the majority of fish I eat is not farmed though I would have to verify this. What is also odd to me is that there seems to be no hereditary foundation for this allergy on the side of my father or mother nor am I aware of it in any other surviving or otherwise family members. Of course this could be one of those things that just happened to occur due to recessive genes. Honestly I just son't like the thought of being to allergic to things. Allergies to cats and dogs+extreme love for cats and dogs=Why God Why! Fortunately I have almost completely grown out of that and I can once again enjoy the companionship of my furry friends. So basically i am going to just hope it is something obscure and fixable though it likely is not.

I have had a similar reaction to trout that I caught fresh as well so not a good sign.

 

[bvanevery]

I'm also that invested in the material I've decided to study that I could be high as fuck or drunk as a skunk and I'd still belligerently be trying to update a project aha.

I almost never get smashed, but I did prove the last time it seriously happened, some parts of my brain never turn off. We played Stratego as a drinking game. Long story short, my opponent knew he'd never beat me on actual game play, I'd clean his clock. So he tried to out drink me and thereby befuddle my thought. He made me drink 1:1 with him, pure attrition, and no question he could hold his liquor better than I could. But my mind never lost clarity on strategy at all! Lot of other abilities impaired but "playing chess" still works, so to speak.

I didn't profit from that exercise so have never repeated it again. Wonder when that would ever come up?

 

[bvanevery]

Of course this could be one of those things that just happened to occur due to recessive genes.

Or you could be living near a toxic waste dump that has sensitized you.

I have had a similar reaction to trout that I caught fresh as well so not a good sign.

Trout rivers on the Eastern seaboard are deeply polluted. Coal ash goes up, sulfur dioxide aka acid rain and other nasties come down.

Were you served shark, or any other very large ocean fish? The largest fish accumulate the most toxins because they live the longest. They amplify and concentrate any contaminants in the food chain. Whereas sardines live a short time so don't have as much opportunity to accumulate.

 

[bvanevery]

Turns out adult life isn't like waiting for a test or to turn in a paper. No cramming at the last min, no study guide.

I try to arrange my life in terms of sustainable practices.

 

[dutchdisease]

Or you could be living near a toxic waste dump that has sensitized you.



Trout rivers on the Eastern seaboard are deeply polluted. Coal ash goes up, sulfur dioxide aka acid rain and other nasties come down.

Were you served shark, or any other very large ocean fish? The largest fish accumulate the most toxins because they live the longest. They amplify and concentrate any contaminants in the food chain. Whereas sardines live a short time so don't have as much opportunity to accumulate.

Any fish in my dietary habits tends to be of the following: Salmon, Tuna, Swordfish, Halibut, occasional flounder. There are also the Northeastern Pan fish which I consume. As far as shellfish goes: muscles, clams, lobster (oddly get little to no reaction from lobster when compared with other shellfish). All this being said though I really do not eat that much seafood. Maybe 1 type of fish or shellfish every 1.5-2 weeks. I'm not particulary fond of the majority of it (possibly due to bad reactions in the past). If it is a result of a toxin within the fish I do not know what it would be. I have no allergies (known) relating to any other materials/organisms other than what was stated. I suppose Bio-magnification could be the cause but I doubt there is any way to verify this. If you have any idea it may help to know that the allergy is mostly affecting areas where there are cuts on my lip, my airways tighten, and at times there is some odd stomach discomfort but only in the upper stomach. The "allergy" does not seem the effect me for a great deal of time and usually is gone within 0-3 hours. I doubt there can be much gained without testing but if you care to do some detective work be my guest.

 

[Sinny91]

I hate fish, tastes too fishy. I can eat Tuna, so I try to eat a lot of it.

I do need to explore more varieties of fish, they can't all taste of fish, surely?!

Oh, you just helped me decide dinner.

 

[bvanevery]

I hate fish, tastes too fishy.

Fishy means it's old. Shouldn't be eating it. Someone's doing a bad job shopping for fish.

 

[bvanevery]

I doubt there can be much gained without testing but if you care to do some detective work be my guest.

Sorry, totally researched out after the "earworm" debate. Did want to mention that I think fish and shellfish are totally different as far as being allergic to them, with shellfish giving severe to life threatening allergies. Does make me wonder about cross-contamination between the two in a fish shop. Although, I thought the main thing people had problems with was iodine. My sister is violently allergic to shellfish. I've asked her for an info dump.

 

[Sinny91]

Fishy means it's old. Shouldn't be eating it. Someone's doing a bad job shopping for fish.

No it's not that.. I havn't touched/shopped/been near fish in years besides tuna.. I just hate fish. (and no way can I stomach a walk tyhrough the fish market). I ate salmon the once thinking it was pizza (canapes), it was a very traumatic experience for me... Once I was served a cod (or something), but the slightest trace of in old innards or whatever put me off white fish forever.. (I was a kid)

Alas, there are plenty of fish in the sea, I should push the boat out a little more but the motivation rarely crosses my mind.

At least tuna is 'fleshy' as opposed to 'fishy'.

(Post 1939)

Spoiler

'Before Germany Consume the World'
(warns the worlds most leading imperialistic powers)


​

The Influence of the Occult on the 1939 German Expedition to Tibet

https://tibettalk.wordpress.com/200...ccult-on-the-1939-german-expedition-to-tibet/

 

[bvanevery]

At least tuna is 'fleshy' as opposed to 'fishy'.

True. I prefer mine raw, in which case it's rather bloody and reminiscent of beef in some ways.

I still wonder if you just haven't frequented bad fish markets all these years, by some accident of historical circumstance. Do you know how to pick a fresh fish? If you don't, then I think I'm gonna stick to my guns.

 

[bvanevery]

Although, I thought the main thing people had problems with was iodine. My sister is violently allergic to shellfish. I've asked her for an info dump.

I may be wrong about iodine. My sister says:

They believe I am allergic to a protein. I was informed that many shellfish are common ancestors of dust mites - that if you have an allergy to dust mites or shellfish, you might develop an allergy to the other.


I have no issues with regular fish.

 

[Sinny91]

True. I prefer mine raw, in which case it's rather bloody and reminiscent of beef in some ways.

I still wonder if you just haven't frequented bad fish markets all these years, by some accident of historical circumstance. Do you know how to pick a fresh fish? If you don't, then I think I'm gonna stick to my guns.

Well I've never put my knowedge into practice.. But I think Gordon Ramsey would be proud. All fish markets are bad markets in my eye's, you have disregarded my point, this has nothing to do with 'bad' fish - just my phobia - lol.

(Oh ffs, Post 1940)

 

[crippli]

Among the finest culinary experiences I have is after I have taken the boat out to sea. As also appears to be true for the people I may invite for dinner. So if I do not take the boat out on the sea is perhaps among the stupider things repeatedly I do.

There is a huge difference on fish though, even the same species. Fish it yourself, where the water and it's food is clean.

 

[bvanevery]

you have disregarded my point, this has nothing to do with 'bad' fish - just my phobia - lol.

No I just didn't understand that a genuine phobia was actually the problem. I'm wondering why it would apply to everything but tuna? Is it a phobia based on appearance?

(Oh ffs, Post 1940)

On your next post, consider strategic bombing of Germany.

 

[Sinny91]

Use tinder

Hows your Tinder Game?
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[bvanevery]

"What is Tinder?"

Somehow I'm not shocked that gal could line up 30 dates in 30 days. I'm only surprised that she chose to be that systematic about it. I've done that sort of thing before, back in the day, but that many coffee dates took me about 4 months and I had very little to show for it. I'm pretty much done with online dating even though I do write good ad copy. I'll keep my attention on face to face stuff, where the barriers of perception are at least not electronically mediated and conditioned.

Hm, maybe she did reach that point of wisdom about being systematic, for a woman's goals. I vividly remember one woman who complained bitterly about how awful the whole online dating process was. What a complete failure. It's ok she complained to me, as I already sensed we weren't really a match. I had run into a lot of "online dating amateurs" back in the day, who thought somehow by investing very little of their time on some online thing, they were gonna just be handed Prince Charming. Like the energy and work of, you know, actually dating a bunch of people, wouldn't have to be done? So a lot of them, I'm not even sure they were paying attention to much of anything, or allocating the needed time in their stressed out lives for these things to occur.

Women using online dating as entertainment and ego stroke, with no intention of dating anyone, and even as a safe outlet to create distance, is a known and reasonably widespread phenomenon. Pretty easy to see how that happens, when men so grossly outnumber women on these things.

Women who are actually trying to get something done, have the opposite problem of men. Men tend to get very little attention, because there aren't enough women. Women get bombed with attention, just way more hits than they want to deal with. Really does resemble sperm and egg reproduction in a lot of ways.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I hate fish, tastes too fishy. I can eat Tuna, so I try to eat a lot of it.

I do need to explore more varieties of fish, they can't all taste of fish, surely?!

Oh, you just helped me decide dinner.

Tuna contains a lot of mercury, one should not eat a lot of it iirc. In any case thank you for perfectly describing my own sentiment towards fish.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Me too, except I can do sushi, which has a lot of other stuff along with it though so doesn't typically resemble seafood. Ma used to make salmon for dinner, which was bearable but any of the other fish I didn't like. Tuna is a good source of protein and is popular among gym heads though, so I think they eat a lot.

 

[PaulMaster]

Drugs.

 

[Hadoblado]

I almost never get smashed, but I did prove the last time it seriously happened, some parts of my brain never turn off. We played Stratego as a drinking game. Long story short, my opponent knew he'd never beat me on actual game play, I'd clean his clock. So he tried to out drink me and thereby befuddle my thought. He made me drink 1:1 with him, pure attrition, and no question he could hold his liquor better than I could. But my mind never lost clarity on strategy at all! Lot of other abilities impaired but "playing chess" still works, so to speak.

I didn't profit from that exercise so have never repeated it again. Wonder when that would ever come up?

Really? I find that one of the first things to go. Are you sure? Play a game vs. yourself, drunk you vs. sober you. Record your moves so you don't have to maintain a board for months. Sober me found drunk me pretty irrelevant this way. Took his moves quicker too.

 

[onesteptwostep]

I play a lot better when I'm high, so maybe being drunk's sort of like it? I should drink when I play too, that sounds interesting.

 

[bvanevery]

Really? I find that one of the first things to go. Are you sure? Play a game vs. yourself, drunk you vs. sober you. Record your moves so you don't have to maintain a board for months. Sober me found drunk me pretty irrelevant this way. Took his moves quicker too.

It was only Stratego, which isn't that complicated for a diehard gamer like myself. A more difficult test would be whether I play chess any better or not, as I don't like thinking more than 3 moves ahead even when sober. But then, I'm not going to get hammered in the name of such an experiment, so the point is moot. My observation is borne of a youthful indiscretion!