Pursuit of Balance-ness

[dark]

Not sure if this is a repeat, and not even sure if it goes here.

I have come to realize, happiness is bull shit.

There is no pursuit of happiness, why should it be the great thing everyone seeks? Hell I don't even know what the term really means, probably because I haven't googled it yet.

I have see that when people actively seek happiness, guess what, it doesn't happen, well it has the same 50/50 chance to happen, or some statistical thing. Most the time they get some other opposite emotional state.

I really am not capable of formulating what I am thinking into coherent words, so this may make no sense at all. But why should one feel the need to be happy. Shouldn't a greater thing be to seek out who one really is, or obtain homeostasis, even though one may not be happy all the time, one would be balanced, chaos, which I believe truely rules the world, would not seem so violent, and one might realize that this is what everything really is about, to be one with whatever this world is.

Happiness is good yes, but without all the opposites of happiness, happiness becomes useless, pointless, nothing. I think this may be the reason some people seek out pain. Like Isaac Brock says in the song "The View," - "If life's not beautiful without the pain, well I'd just rather never ever even see beauty again."

I believe we should pursue not happiness. That is my problem with the idea of "heaven" and one reason as a child I started my journey to become and atheist. As a child of around 6 the adults thought I was just missinformed and tried vigilent to explain to me this idea of how it would be blissful and all, now I have come full circle[don't mean to put a First Blood reference] I realize I was not wrong as a child.

But my problem is this, how would I go about teaching others this, without being called a hereitic, unbeliever, evil [finger crossing thrown at me] and exiled from my own family? Is this something that people have to learn themselves or could they be shown? Personally I don't know if another can teach another.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I believe we should pursue not happiness.

Everyone is entitled to realizations and the sensations that follow thereafter, but I feel I must cut you short. It is a given that happiness is achieved indirectly, for the act of seeking happiness is selfish and the state of being happy is a selfless feeling. When you are happy you do not want more than what you have for you are truly satisfied.

The act of seeking happiness is an infinite quest.

 

[Da Blob]

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/6apIYV/sivers.org/drama/r:f

Happiness for many of the world's children is a full belly. If one has everything one actually needs to survive, that should be a source of happiness - so why isn't it?

Perhaps Envy?

 

[kantor1003]

Pursuit of balance-ness.. emotional balance? Most of us have that balance, we just don't seem to appreciate the negative side of the cycle. Happiness happens to be on the positive side (by positive I mean interpreted by our mind as something pleasant) of our emotional fluctuations.. isn't strange people pursue it even though on can argue what a fruitless pursuit that is. Happiness, isn't that the reason the common man even live at all? If not, what is?

 

[preilemus]

Shouldn't a greater thing be to seek out who one really is, or obtain homeostasis, even though one may not be happy all the time, one would be balanced, chaos, which I believe truely rules the world, would not seem so violent, and one might realize that this is what everything really is about, to be one with whatever this world is.

But then, should you achieve that, wouldn't that make you happy, or at least peaceful? If happiness could also be called contentedness, then instead of trying to exchange base discontent with base content, you are suggesting being content with the discontent.

Pursuit of balance-ness.. emotional balance? Most of us have that balance, we just don't seem to appreciate the negative side of the cycle.

experiencing sadness the same way you experience happiness, that is, with acceptance, appreciation, etc. would still make you content. It's still a way to feel at peace. As I see it, none of this succeeds in escaping that pursuit.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Pursuit of balance-ness.. emotional balance? Most of us have that balance, we just don't seem to appreciate the negative side of the cycle.

I disagree. I think people in general are more or less on one side.

 

[dark]

Don't think I mean emotional balance, I may, but apartenly I have noticed my terms for things are often not what everyone else see them as...

What I mean is this, if one pursued, happiness, what ever that may be for the individual, and never experienced the other side, lets say happiness is the light the other side dark for for simplicity, the person would only be starving their own, I guess, emotional needs. If all things became one thing, then that one thing would mean nothing.

Everything must have an opposite to exist in balance. It is sort of contradictory to my chaos thoughts, but I seem to be very contradictory, maybe I have what it takes to be a religious person haha. Really don't think I need to explain how everything has a balance of opposites.

But really as I think of it, balance does not come in the way of chaos. If one were to believe all things were created out of randomness, then balance would be ensured since, according to the laws in my head, things can only exists if at the same time its opposite exists, shit, that throws away my life/death idea... o well. I'll come back to this later.