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Oh no! Existential crisis!

Coolydudey

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With this thread I'm planning to make a little go-to for all the myriads of people who suddenly realise that life is absurd and are having some crisis about it. I really don't think such time needs to be spent dealing with these crises on a case by case basis, unless someone is depressed or something similar which is a seperate issue anyway. So here goes.

Ok, you've realised life is pointless. Well done! You fall into a very small percentage of people who both have a brain and have actually used it for something! It makes so much sense! Now I don't see why this is troubling you so much.

Actually, I tell a lie. I remember precisely why this troubled me so much. The very way society functions, the very way you were brought up since you were a baby, and the way that so many of your preconceptions (particularly moral) stand on this arbitrary basis that suddenly crumbles all contribute to a hugely uncomfortable and jarring jolt to your worldview. You want things to be as they were before, you want to restore what you've lost so that things make sense again. It's naturally human.

I myself spent a long time trying to restore things. I eventually decided it wasn't possible. It was enormously liberating when I just accepted that life is meaningless, morals are arbitrary, etc. It's a completely, perfectly valid way to see the world. It will however take time to adjust, however you go about it.

Now, I insert some quotes from Nihilism.com which I just found, so that you can see that I am not alone in thinking that embracing such facts (or even going further as in the case of Nihilists) is productive, if anything.

"Our view is that by accepting nothingness, through nihilism, we can see what is of actual value and uphold it, bypassing the denial and illusion of this age. "

"As such, we are the ultimate minority. Almost every member of our species wants an existence focused on individual human drama and the need of humans to feel an outlet for their emotions and desires.
Instead, we offer them cold hard realism from the 10,000 year scale. Humanity is not much an achievement; it is likely we will self-destruct, as most intelligent species do."

Here I will disagree with the text. Every person does need a life somewhat focused on emotions and desires. I won't just offer you cold hard realism, but instead I will say that the way out of the crisis is to accept your emotions. Without emotions, the world is cold hard logic, there is no crisis on the one hand, no happiness on the other. I would suggest that since it's all meaningless you should just go ahead and try to be happy, instead of worrying about the meaninglessness of it all. And btw, for most people, trying to minimise total hurt to others (or even maximise their happiness, within reason) will help in that goal (of being happy), hence at least partially confirming a basis on which to accept some of classic morality.

What I'm saying boils down to:
You've realised it's meaningless. It's perfectly ok, that's very reasonable and you should accept it. And while you're at it, since life is meaningless, stop worrying about it and be happy.

That's my take on it anyway. Feel free to contribute guys. Now here's an interesting photo. It's going much further than me, saying what to do with your existentialism. It's even offering options to add a meaning to your life and much more, in essence disagreeing with me. Enjoy!
http://i.imgur.com/mabRf.jpg

Eventually you'll realise it's no big deal whether you think the world is meaningless or not... Who cares? :D
existential-crisis-and-spiral-dynamics-2-638.jpg
 

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G'mork: If you come any closer, I will rip you to shreds.
Atreyu: Who are you?
G'mork: I am G'mork. And you, whoever you are, can have the honor of being my last victim.
Atreyu: I will not die easily. I am a warrior!
G'mork: Ha! Brave warrior, then fight the Nothing.
Atreyu: But I can't! I can't get beyond the boundaries of Fantasia!
[G'mork laughs and Atreyu gets a little angry]
Atreyu: What's so funny about that?
G'mork: Fantasia has no boundaries.
[laughs]
Atreyu: That's not true! You're lying.
G'mork: Foolish boy. Don't you know anything about Fantasia? It's the world of human fantasy. Every part, every creature of it, is a piece of the dreams and hopes of mankind. Therefore, it has no boundaries.
Atreyu: But why is Fantasia dying, then?
G'mork: Because people have begun to lose their hopes and forget their dreams. So the Nothing grows stronger.
Atreyu: What is the Nothing?
G'mork: It's the emptiness that's left. It's like a despair, destroying this world. And I have been trying to help it.
Atreyu: But why?
G'mork: Because people who have no hopes are easy to control; and whoever has the control... has the power!
 

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O.M.G. !!

Played the video and instantly recognised the music, and I was like, really?!? Such a strange feeling, I have no idea why.

Since I've now written that, might as well attempt to add something productive :D.
"Because people who have no hopes are easy to control; and whoever has the control... has the power!"
Let me just add, in case that was what you had in mind, that existentialism and even nihilism are not giving up hope. In fact they can kind of save you from the hopeless state that is an existential crisis.
 

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O.M.G. !!

Played the video and instantly recognised the music, and I was like, really?!? Such a strange feeling, I have no idea why.

Since I've now written that, might as well attempt to add something productive :D.
"Because people who have no hopes are easy to control; and whoever has the control... has the power!"
Let me just add, in case that was what you had in mind, that existentialism and even nihilism are not giving up hope. In fact they can kind of save you from the hopeless state that is an existential crisis.

“Without music, life would be a mistake.”― Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols, Or, How to Philosophize With the Hammer

Darkness is simply the absence of the light it does not mean that the light does not exist.

http://youtu.be/GfIeFjiXLb8
 

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I have determined that I am not a Nihilist because all those options seem far to drastic to adopt as a way of life. Why can't I just keep living impulsively? whats wrong with that? The Pleasure option seems too dangerous. I'm thinking if I were to pick any of those options it would be the Zen Buddhism. I like the idea of looking in to see what is external. Basically I see all these options as a way to fake it until death. I am too genuine for that. I prefer to live my life trying to make and maintain relationships that are worth my time and energy.

[Edit] Obviously I'm very easy to manipulate judging from my last 30 min on this forum which means... something, I forgot what now....
 

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I see peoples like they are mindless robots doing mostly preprogrammed stuff. I have had this mindset as far as I can remember.
Do others see me as mindless robot?

There are such thing as feelings which helps others through starting from birth canal ending up to grave. I have very little of that inner feelings thingy.
I have this thing called abstract analytical mindset. There is a cure for that. It comes in different forms such as bullet, drugs, lobotomy...
Despite all of this it is strange that I'm capable of being emotional.
 

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Stop it!

Just stop it! You hear me?

Stop it.

(I feel like all NTs need someone to do this to them, since we all go through this at some point in our lives.)
 

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We know that others have similar experiences because they are structured in similar ways, are of the same species etc etc etc, to assume that ones own consciousness is some kind of anomaly and perhaps not even present in others or could be present in anything is simply stupid.

Furthermore, meaning exists. We experience it all the time in different forms. It's only when you start looking for the one primary meaning that encompasses everything that you end up empty-handed. But why would you? It's just a leftover from past dogmas which has stayed because people are vain, wanting to feel special. It's heliocentric bullshit to feel sorry over there not being some sort of metaphysical meaning encompassing the entire universe, a greater purpose in which each of us matter as individual. As I previously stated there is meaning in our conscious experiences however, people can deny it all they want but no one is truly a nihilist.

To search for the meaning of life is to search for something to make oneself feel important. It's an ego thing.
 

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"Our view is that by accepting nothingness, through nihilism, we can see what is of actual value and uphold it, bypassing the denial and illusion of this age. "

"As such, we are the ultimate minority. Almost every member of our species wants an existence focused on individual human drama and the need of humans to feel an outlet for their emotions and desires.
Instead, we offer them cold hard realism from the 10,000 year scale. Humanity is not much an achievement; it is likely we will self-destruct, as most intelligent species do

Depends on what you mean by "life"? If it's obeying rules, conforming to social norms, work till you die... then this kind of life has little meaning yeah. This is just society dictating on how to live your life. This is not "life" itself. It's up to you to go beyond what is being dictated to search for your own meaning of life. If you let society cage in your world into just conforming into its own rules, then you end up with just that-- "life is meaningless" conclusion.

I think that's what the first quote of yours means anyways...Once you realize that the social values that is upheld has little to no meaning. You can now stop and ask yourself-- just what is there that's actually important? What values ("denial and illusions") has society distorted and has been force-feeding you? Go beyond that and find what truly matters for you and uphold it with your life.

As for the second quote...in my opinion it's just saying what one could observe in humans in the most pessimistic way. Humans are capable of self-destruction with greed and egocentrism being the prevalent upheld values. Although not many realize, we all still are entitled to a choice-- succumb to that "human nature" that'll inevitably lead to self-destruction or go against it. Tough call on that one though for sure ^^;
 
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