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I hope this is the rite forum. Im 26 and Ive never had a good relationship with my parents.They ve always provided financally every way they can but never emotionaly.I've always had a problem getting along with people. I am anti social and sometimes I dont think about peoples feelings.


If this is the rite forum i will tell more If you are willing to listen and help. I cant afford to seek help so Im seeking help this way. Please dont answer by talk to my parents about it becuase It wont work.Like i said if this is the rite forum I will poor my heart out and answer any questions with 100% accuracy.
 

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Do you have anyone you can talk to other than your parents? I think sometimes others have to supplement some of what our parents can't/couldn't do. Parenting is something humans are often not very good at.
 

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Do you have anyone you can talk to other than your parents? I think sometimes others have to supplement some of what our parents can't/couldn't do. Parenting is something humans are often not very good at.

Theres very few people that I can talk to but Im affraid of geeting judged.Every one usually has there own problems and sometimes I get shrugged off or I get the old you never listen..Heres my story in a nutshell..



Hi I'm 26/m and I've never had a good relationship with my parents.They'Ve always provided financially every way they could but, never emotionally.I have 2 younger sisters .

Ive always been anti social and never really had friends.Its really hard for me to make friends and at partys Im always very quite.It takes me a very long time to get comfortable with people and when I do I feel like Im not liked.

I also noticed that Im not very understanding to other peoples feelings.Sometimes i feel like I don't have feelings.Its very hard to make me cry.

I feel like I have absolutely no personality and very low self esteem. This has cost me alot of jobs and relationships with friends and g/f..even family.I used to be close to my cousins but after a while everyone gets tired of me.

Ive been with my current g/f for 2 years and This has effected my relationship .She notices these things and Im affraid shes gonna get fet up. Im very quite around her family and I come out to be very unfriendly.She tells me alot that im heartless.I think I make her uncomfortable when around her fam cause im so quite.She recently lost her Father and Ive been here for her,but sometimes and most of the time I forget what shes going thru and how she feels. She sometimes has an attitude and it makes me upset and I end up picking a fight. I have a big heart but not alot of people see it.I know she loves me.Ilove her with all my heart but people can only take so much.
I sometimes criticize her and bring her down unintentionally.

Im also very moody,unhappy and controlling.To me It's that Im very protective of loved ones but they take it as controlling.Ive never been suicidal nor had much thought of it.

Not a drinker or do drugs even tho sometimes I wanna drink I never do.In the past 4 or 5 months ive drank a beer here and there at partys and home ive drank maybe 2 shots when really stressed.

I know an easy fix would be talk to my parents about it but, it doesn't work.I cant afford help. I will answer any question with 100% accuracy.Some one please help.I been trying to change,and mature, but these are things I need help with. Ive worked on my attitude and my anger.
 

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You know, alot of that sounds pretty similar to myself. I'm quite shy too, rarely cry, and I also unintentionally offend others 'cause I can be very critical (although even more so of myself).

It's the "no personality" and low self-esteem I'd focus on improving more than anything right now. I think you have to find out what moves you, so to speak. Like, what excites you. What's worth making an effort for, things like that. You don't have to be interested of other's feelings to do that.

In turn, I think gaining self-esteem will help you in maturing your Fe shadow in the long run. I know mine needs alot of work too.
 

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There's a book I recommend every opportunity I get, it's called "The 7 Habits Of Highly Effective People" by Stephen Covey. It's a great way for NT types to work on their EQ (Emotional intelligence) It explains in logical, cause in effect terms the importance of feeling related things like showing appreciation, empathic listening, and taking into account during your decision making the effects that these decisions may have on others (man, I can imagine that the feeling types on this forum must think I am a real dunce right now).

For example expressing appreciation has always been difficult because if someone has done a good job it should be obvious and If I have helped them in their endeavor then that was my expression of appreciation. People really need more then that, and if I give them what they need, which in this case is appreciation, they will be more willing to give me what I need, which is usually the willingness to listen to my theories and ideas.

On a side note, MBTI has helped with my expression of feelings as well. As I recall Fe is the inferior function for an INTP. It is my least developed (embarrassingly so, I have to admit) function and the one I feel the least comfortable with. I have this odd fear that If I show too much appreciation (or other comparable emotions) that the recipient of my emotional expressions may want to hug me or something, or may push me to express more emotions that I don't feel comfortable expressing (usually I only feel this way with people I don't know well) . To date, I have never had to actually deal with this, but the fear of this happening to me can make me hesitant. According to Meyers-Briggs type theory this is (or is it can be) normal for an INTP, therefore I should not feel shame about it, instead I can recognize the problem exists and deal with it accordingly. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses.

The book "Gifts Differing" by Isabel Briggs Myers is one of the best books I have read about MBTI. I'm sure others can recommend some other good books. Posting on this forum can help also.
 
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you cannot "not have a personality"...
 

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INTP's are terrible actors. The underdevopment of F usually means that people can see through you when you fake empathy that a someone who is an F type would actually feel.
People arnt going to call you on being fake and not actually caring about what there saying, but they wont enjoy your company as much as they would someone who is actually feeling what there saying.

Im very quite around her family and I come out to be very unfriendly.She tells me alot that im heartless.I think I make her uncomfortable when around her fam cause im so quite
I used to be the same with my ex's family and It sucked, I tried to talk and act the part but it was just terrible for me. I would be awkward around them and way too quite, my ex hated it of course. It was so weird because im so cool in every other situation, just them for some reason. I thought i had to censor myself too much.

You can try all you want to act in such a way or another, or to get your confidence up and act like they do, but you wont succeed. You have to be sincere because your Fe function is so underdeveloped your acting will always be shit, you have to stop caring what people think and pursue the path of individualisation.
Carl jung used to take special interest in patients who did not adapt to society, who couldnt be moulded by some social caste. In his work he explains how it is important for these people to follow there own vocation and develop themselves in there unique way. In an interview with him he describes a day which he suddenly awoke to himself (not literally) and how it felt like he was walking out of some strange mist and decided that he would be an individual.
The majority of people in this world are Extroverted, so base value only on things which come from objective reality, things that are real and tangible. An introvert draws there value subjectivly from inside, they dont have this drive for sweet cars, working 9 to 5, popularity and a house. But to be percieved as higher status these are things you must acquire, so what hope does a Introvert have to feel confident and gain high self esteem?. You need to truely base your values subjectivly and be free of these inferior extroverts opinions.

Without going into this too much, I think you should let go and stop caring what people think and trying to be someone your not to make other people happy. Assert yourself. You'll find that when you stop caring everything will just work out. But you shouldnt even care if it does or not, because your being yourself and following your own vocation.
 
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I have been accused of having no emotions. It is not pleasant.
 

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I've also been accused of having no emotions, but I don't care. I usually smirk derisively and reply with something like: "No shit Sherlock" or "Late to the party aren't you". Then I promptly return to ignoring most signs of life.

I have this little self introduction in fact:
This may sound a little weird but, I'll let you in on a little secret. I can sincerely say that you will be much happier if you just realized that I am like a Wall, and therefore you should treat me like one. A Wall does what it was created to do.

When one talks to a Wall, one should not expect a reply, but a captive audience!

When one punches a Wall, one should not expect retaliation; merely a bruised fist!

Walls do not have opinions on your supposedly exciting life, but they sure are solid!

Walls may seem indifferent to you and your tragic plight, but they never fail if you need something to lean on!

Walls are perfectly fine being left alone!

Walls do not care if you do not remember their birthdays, nor will they remember yours! Unless you scribbled it on them.

Treat your Wall well and it will be your loyal companion!
 
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I've also been accused of having no emotions, but I don't care. I usually smirk derisively and reply with something like: "No shit Sherlock" or "Late to the party aren't you". Then I promptly return to ignoring most signs of life.

I have this little self introduction in fact:
This may sound a little weird but, I'll let you in on a little secret. I can sincerely say that you will be much happier if you just realized that I am like a Wall, and therefore you should treat me like one. A Wall does what it was created to do.

When one talks to a Wall, one should not expect a reply, but a captive audience!

When one punches a Wall, one should not expect retaliation; merely a bruised fist!

Walls do not have opinions on your supposedly exciting life, but they sure are solid!

Walls may seem indifferent to you and your tragic plight, but they never fail if you need something to lean on!

Walls are perfectly fine being left alone!

Walls do not care if you do not remember their birthdays, nor will they remember yours! Unless you scribbled it on them.

Treat your Wall well and it will be your loyal companion!

I do not even respond. I'm indifferent towards their comments, to be honest. Negative assessments of my character are only 'unpleasant' for not being very complimentary. The truth is that I do not care.
 

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Another reason I think negative character assessments are misguided is because they arise from the misconception that their chosen personality is somehow superior. By showing pride, satisfaction and stubbornness in myself I help to dent this misconception since it creates an anomaly in their environment.

But usually I really just ignore them.
 

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you cannot "not have a personality"...







To say that you or someone else has no personality is an expression, a saying. It is meant to say that person has a flat affect, is boring, is in the background too much. For a better definition reference it on the internet.
 

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Oblivious I love your "wall" post. That's definitely how I feel in relation to Extraverts, although not all people. I agree with everything except for the birthdays thing. I always make a big deal about my own birthday, mainly because it amuses me, and I don't think anyone would care if I didn't make a big deal about it. Gotta feel special at least once a year, right?
 

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Occasionally a wall should do something strange, just to mess with people.
The affect is amplified by only doing strange things around the one person.
 

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geez, i thought i was the only one who's been compared to a wall...my lack of emotion drives my boss nuts even tho he can be going ape crazy on me. as long as he doesn't touch me, I could care less what he says.
 

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The Wall by Pink Floyd

It has some relevant lyrics to this discussion.

What is the difference between a Wall and a Mirror?

I think that a lot of people 'read' each other's nonverbal cues to see how the communication/relationship is going. I am very bad at this and I miss out on a lot of the 'unspoken' parts of face-to-face conversations because of this. Not only do I not read others very well, I have been told that I am difficult to read myself, which puts a lot of people off, because they can't tell what I'm thinking based on my "Body language'

I think that a lot of people see others as Mirrors so when they run into a Wall, they blame the Wall for being there...

You might want to read up on personality theory and especially the MBTI classification, it can help a lot in understanding the differences between people
 

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Do some research into adult ADD "inattentive" type. You sound a lot like me and I've recently self-diagnosed that I am this. . . not sure how accurately. I am INFP. I typed out too long a description this morning. I do my worst thinking at that time. Basically, it may be you have this if you are very disorganized, forgetful, and people see you as a jerk because you can never give them your attention for longer than a few seconds. Also. . . you are exceedingly introverted. If it is that for me I want to try medication, but I'm not sure how that will affect me so I'm a little worried I'm stuck or it's a very lonng road to improvement.
 

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You said that your parents lacked emotional support, and that you fear you cannot give adequate emotional support. You also said that it "won't work" if you talk to your folks. Do you feel like it "won't work" if you give someone emotional support?
Often, the best way to support someone going through a difficult time is by simply letting them know that you care, which you most certainly do, since you're asking for advise. The grieving process is complex and as unique as the individual. Acceptance can only be reached by oneself and should not be rushed or intervened. Having a partner that cares enough, and is patient enough, to understand this would be very helpful. It may be a good thing that you're more of a "rock" than a blubbering softy.
 

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I am both appalled and amazed.
 

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I hope this is the rite forum. Im 26 and Ive never had a good relationship with my parents.They ve always provided financally every way they can but never emotionaly.I've always had a problem getting along with people. I am anti social and sometimes I dont think about peoples feelings.


If this is the rite forum i will tell more If you are willing to listen and help. I cant afford to seek help so Im seeking help this way. Please dont answer by talk to my parents about it becuase It wont work.Like i said if this is the rite forum I will poor my heart out and answer any questions with 100% accuracy.

I hope you're enjoying your Diet Rite from Rite Aid on this rite forum. :D
 

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@Im lost

You say it's hard to make you cry...

My first thought is that you cry in your head, internally
But you keep a good poker face

^thats entirely different from plainly 'not giving a shit'

Yes, I do try to read between your many lines
 

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Do some research into adult ADD "inattentive" type. You sound a lot like me and I've recently self-diagnosed that I am this. . . not sure how accurately. I am INFP. I typed out too long a description this morning. I do my worst thinking at that time. Basically, it may be you have this if you are very disorganized, forgetful, and people see you as a jerk because you can never give them your attention for longer than a few seconds. Also. . . you are exceedingly introverted. If it is that for me I want to try medication, but I'm not sure how that will affect me so I'm a little worried I'm stuck or it's a very lonng road to improvement.

Been there, done that. Sort of. There are some who have been officially diagnosed with it and are on this forum.

I self-diagnosed, then threw it out the window when I evaluated the medication's side effects.

If OP, through some paranormal senses, decides to return to this forum in three and a half years after making three post I doubt he suffers from any such disorder in the first place. I think he just needs a paper and a pen. It helps.

If he had ADHD people would be complaining about him being rude and distracting. He then would have snorted some coke.

Came off a little trollish.
 

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My parents were not very smart.
I was enough for myself.
I was trained to use my psychic powers from a very early age.
My parents were scared of it.
I learned to talk with the spirit guides and they guided me throughout the life.
they taught me many other things.
Be in Harmony
Be in peace
walk with beauty
Pc
roger,
 

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As a spoiled rich kid myself, this book really cleared a lot of things up for me:

Levine, M. (2006). The Price of Privilege: How Parental Pressure and Material Privilege are Creating a Generation of Disconnected and Unhappy Kids. New York: HarperCollins.

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