My version of reincarnation.

[Prion]

A materialistic version of reincarnation: Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, your body is essentially recycled energy. When you die, this energy is once again recycled in various ways, eventually to be used by another organism. It's possible (not necessarily probable), that the experiance of reality may be transferable/able to be re-created in another new organism under the right circumstances. Unfortunately, we don't know quite enough about it yet. Could a combination of certain types of your own recycled energy/material create perception again?

A definition of what exactly "my perception" is, would be very helpful. Is perception simply the quality of having functioning senses and a body, or is it a certain form of energy ("energy" by the scientific definition) that IS perception ("awareness" would probably be more accurate). If the latter is the case, then if you die and part of your decayed body eventually transforms (energy can change form) into whatever form of energy/matter may be responsible for awareness, and is used in another being, then reincarnation may be very true...again, not probable though.

I feel as though that paragraph might have been confusing...let me know.

Keep in mind that the personality and memories would not survive.


What do you think?

 

[deadpixel]

A materialistic version of reincarnation: Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, your body is essentially recycled energy. When you die, this energy is once again recycled in various ways, eventually to be used by another organism. It's possible (not necessarily probable), that the experiance of reality may be transferable/able to be re-created in another new organism under the right circumstances. Unfortunately, we don't know quite enough about it yet. Could a combination of certain types of your own recycled energy/material create perception again?

A definition of what exactly "my perception" is, would be very helpful. Is perception simply the quality of having functioning senses and a body, or is it a certain form of energy ("energy" by the scientific definition) that IS perception ("awareness" would probably be more accurate). If the latter is the case, then if you die and part of your decayed body eventually transforms (energy can change form) into whatever form of energy/matter may be responsible for awareness, and is used in another being, then reincarnation may be very true...again, not probable though.

I feel as though that paragraph might have been confusing...let me know.

Keep in mind that the personality and memories would not survive.


What do you think?

As long as im not turned into fossil fuels and spit out of an exhaust pipe.

 

[Helvete]

As long as im not turned into fossil fuels and spit out of an exhaust pipe.

This is some what controllable by choosing beforehand where you are disposed of as this is a matter of human activity.

@prion: this could only surely happen during reproduction, so the energy consumed by the 'parent'will have already been processed in a way so it's correctly usable for the offspring? So the b organism will only use certain chemicals to pro create and any others will be made redundant. Just to note,I don't really have any idea what I'm talking about lol.

further thought; if all the energy bring used as directed via the 'parent' first and only what is compatible I'd bring used, then the variance of perception passed on is limited to what the 'parent'is able create from the chemicals used.

 

[Helvete]

Sorry for the grammatical mistakes, I'm posting from my phone at work.

 

[QuickTwist]

@OP, your theory really doesn't make sense for everyone. In the US and other places around the world the body is altered after death and given a sacred place to be placed in which is then not altered for a good long while.

 

[Pyropyro]

Prion, you're mixing physics and metaphysics so that's why the posters here are quite confused.

Perhaps you should put your question in just one context.

 

[Thurlor]

How is the 'energy' being given any meaningful form after the death of the organism?

It seems to me as though you're proposing that software can run independent of hardware.

 

[Prion]

Prion, you're mixing physics and metaphysics so that's why the posters here are quite confused.

Perhaps you should put your question in just one context.

To clarify, what I'm basically asking here, is if perception has some sort of physical quality that can be transferred/re-created and experienced again.

 

[Pyropyro]

To clarify, what I'm basically asking here, is if perception has some sort of physical quality that can be transferred/re-created and experienced again.

You mean awareness or the ability to perceive? I think its basic form resides in the brain stem. I don't know if its possible or even ethical to transfer that part of the brain to other bodies so I can't say for sure if it's transferable.

As for the re-creation (after death and decomposition) angle, well I guess we're already leaving the realm of science by then.

 

[Prion]

I'm not 100% sure what the distinction between those two terms is in this case, but I think I mean The ability to perceive.

Yeah, there's not exactly a lot of evidence or reason that can support the re-creation idea, but it's still fun to think about.

 

[QuickTwist]

Animals with big brains are aware. People have perception. Oh, ok, some animals have perception too.

 

[Pyropyro]

Yeah, there's not exactly a lot of evidence or reason that can support the re-creation idea, but it's still fun to think about.

Nothing wrong about thinking about it. You can also discuss it using other contexts if you want. I think one of the threads here discussed the afterlife and reincarnation through the lens of Buddhism.

 

[Hadoblado]

If the self is the process of consciousness and not the particular physical components to that consciousness, then...

Given infinite space-time, the reconstruction of your consciousness by means causally unrelated to the present consciousness is inevitable.

There's a lot of ifs though.

 

[Cognisant]

My answer to the Ship of Theseus thought experiment is that the perception of the ship as a thing separate from the world around it is a contrivance of the human mind.

In the apparently empty space between your eyes and the screen you're looking at what is there? Well since you're in an atmosphere there's molecules, you can't see them but they're there as sure as the air you breathe, some of these molecules will enter your body, some have been in your body before, all of them have been inside a dinosaur at some point in time.

These things, ships, people, dinosaurs, we're all made of essentially the same stuff (mostly carbon) and that stuff is inherent to no one thing, so everything is like a sandcastle and what separates the sandcastle from the rest of the beach?

Even consciousness is contrived, I mean if one were to create a simulation of consciousness wouldn't that simulation therefore be conscious and thus not merely a simulation but rather another form of consciousness?

 

[matrices]

To clarify, what I'm basically asking here, is if perception has some sort of physical quality that can be transferred/re-created and experienced again.

It's entirely physical. (If, that is, you are willing to define "perception" as "consciousness", which I believe is what you are getting at.)

Keep in mind that the personality and memories would not survive.

I don't think this is necessarily true. It would be very complicated, but it is entirely possible in principle.

It seems to me as though you're proposing that software can run independent of hardware.

And this is true, in the sense that software can be run on any compatible unit of hardware.

 

[NiceRuby]

I think that there is no reincarnation. Although I may be mistaken.