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Should Ragnar participate in forum discussions?


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Artifice Orisit

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And no, I shall not participate here as a member. It gives too much weight to the owner since he or she always has the last word in disputes, and there's always the temptation to say 'This is how it shall be.' solely based upon the unstriven power of ownership. Power needs to depend upon legitimacy, not money. Besides which one-man-band forums suck.
I, ah... I disagree.

A totalitarian leadership derived from unquestionable power and thrust upon the shoulders of an INTP (whom didn't want to be a leader in the first place) by the democratic vote of an INTP populace is exactly what I believe this forum (and the world) needs. To that end I call a vote regarding if or not this community wishes Ragnar to participate as an active member in this forum, on the grounds that we trust him not to abuse his power, but even if he did, that we support the legitimacy of his claim to power anyway.
In short, I'm proposing we try to pressure our mysterious benefactor (ignore the ethics of it) into becoming an active member by obtaining a community consensus calling for his presence.

Isn't anyone else just a little curious?
Wouldn't it be interesting to know the forum creator's thoughts & opinions?
 

Anthile

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Do you really want more German persons of authority on the forum? :D
 
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Piss off, Cog.
(I felt like saying it, but didn't want to vote for it)
 

Weliddryn

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Well, Ragnar brought up some good points as to why he should not become an active member... however, there are some benefits to him becoming one, as well.

One simple reason is contacting him when things go wrong- the more involved he is in the forum, the better chance he will have updates as to the technical difficulties of it, when they should arise.

...just sayin'. XD
 

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I don't see how Ragnar's status as owner could have any of the effects he's worrying about any more than the status of a mod or admin would.

If he doesn't want to participate in the forum, that's fine and there's nothing we can do about it, but I don't really see any reason why he shouldn't.
 

Ogion

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I think we really should let that be Ragnars decision and not invoke Group-force-tactics (poll) to force him ;)

Ogion
 

Kidege

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Taking into account that he's my hero (since about ten minutes ago), I'd really like to know him a little better.
But then he'd probably stop being my hero.
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Da Blob

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well if he has read many of the threads on the forum he should know that we have already:rolleyes: put up with some pretty obnoxious characters at times....
 

loveofreason

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*Slates Cognisant down for a midnight visit from the friendly anti-plebiscite brigade.*
 

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INTPs gathering together for cohesive purposes? I thought I'd never see the day!

We're just amusing ourselves considering the possibility. Its not as if we're about to do anything that requires effort.

I like Ragnar. Quiet guy. Like me.
 

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I voted I don't care because to be honest, I don't. Also I wanted to see my name standing alone among the results. :p
 

Ragnar

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You Can Have Your Morals...

But then he'd probably stop being my hero.
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Which is yet another reason to remain remote.


Capital Cash, your illegal stash,
Make a million dollars and it’s gone in a flash !
Y’all know the thrill
Of holding those bills,
Livin’ on cigarettes, but I got no skills…


Play it real hard, but this ain’t no game,
You can have your morals, I’ll take money and fame,
You may think you’re better, but we’re all the same,
I don’t feel nuthin’ --- I sure don’t feel shame !


I’m livin’ it large, the man who's in charge,
Makin’ breakin’ rules, I’m a regular Sarge,
Capital Cash, your illegal stash,
Make a million dollars and its gone in a flash !




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Thunderface --- Capital Cash
 

RubberDucky451

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I don't care if he participates, i just don't want another forum crash.
 

Kidege

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Re: You Can Have Your Morals...

Which is yet another reason to remain remote.

:(

(Sry Cog, I didn't mean to give him any ideas. Of this sort, I mean. If he stayed around he could always pick lots of ideas)
 

Xel

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I think Ragnar is a pretty cool guy. Won't post on his own forum and doesn't afraid of anything.
 
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Auburn

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I too am very curious as to who Ragnar is, although he's already told us a lot about himself by his mere silence. I would completely understand and accept if he's simply someone who'd prefer to be withdrawn, but I don't see why that must be the case for the forum creator. Why should the creator be robbed of the opportinity to commune with those of similar minds? Can he not be both the creator and a normal member? The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I would consider lor a good example of someone who is both an authority figure, but also just another fellow member who can express herself at an equal level with other members. This can be seen clearly in the Arena :rolleyes: where her title of admin becomes irrelevant, and she's free to be as foul as her soul desires. :p The same could be true for you Ragnar. Having the maturity to separate the two correctly, one can be both the higher authority, and someone at our same level, who we know personally. I've actually found many of the greatest leaders in history to be people who would come down to the lowest ranks and commune with them as one of them. ( Christ, Mother Teresa, Alexander the Great, Ghandi)


Random thoughts:

Besides, hasn't there ever been a thread that you were just dying to reply to?!
I can't imagine an INTP browsing though these forums for so long and all the while resisting to make any remarks. Hmm, or perhaps you don't read the forum. But then again, maybe you do. And maybe you know all about us. :phear:
 

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Maybe he has a second account and is actually a participating member ;) (Which would actually be a good solution imo, if he want sto participate at all that is).

Ogion
 

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I was going to vote I don't care, then I saw the option piss off cog, and couldn't not vote that
 

Artifice Orisit

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That option means your saying to me "piss off, Cog", it doesn’t actually piss me off.

But I appreciate the sentiment none the less :D
 

Toad

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So does Ragnar lurk and read posts?
 

loveofreason

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*sigh*

Oblivious is such a quiet guy... he should post more...


Ragnar is Ogion?

But I thought Face was Ogion!

If you think about it... Ragnar is probably XIII...
 

Artifice Orisit

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If you think about it... Ragnar is probably XIII...
Um, can somebody religious help me with this?
I don't know if I should call lor a blasphemer or a heretic.
 

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I dunno, that looks more like blasphemy than heresy to me.
 

Tyria

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I must admit I am curious about our mysterious benefactor as well (Ragnar). Seeing as he is the owner of the forum, he could be a member just like everyone else. Heck, the mods and admins have great stuff to add to threads and are members in their own right.

Having said that, I don't want to use group tactics (or any another for that matter) to force Ragnar to be a member here. I guess I just wanted the possibility of him being a member as an option to be on the table.

I suppose what I want to say is that I hope that the whole deal with being a forum owner and having the power to set things as you want isn't keeping Ragnar from his own forum. Having read over what he has to say, he seems to be an intelligent and mysterious person who could have some interesting insight and views to add to discussion.
 

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For that post, Crimson_Knight gets the My Sentiments Exactly award.

I don't actually have a trophy/medal/sticker for you or anything like that, so here's this post. :p
 
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