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Jungian Typology Video Lessons

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The first part of the first video is wrong. "There is controversy over the basic terms ..." and he then shows two different definitions on two websites.

Actually there's no controversy over what the terms mean, he's being rather stupid in that he expects two random websites to agree perfectly? Why not go to the MBTI manual and see what it says, that is the final authority on this topic. Finally describing aspects of psyche slightly differently is to be expected, and hardly creates "controversy".

Perhaps a small point but this guy is too much into the web culture of MBTI. On the other hand the last big on behaviorist versus motivation is quite good.

Edit: Still going through the videos. Despite the monotone voice it's not half bad. He looks at the system from Jung to the present day internet culture comparing and contrasting the various ideas.
 

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Architect your missing the point because that is exactly his criticism not what he personally thinks. He "is" over viewing what has happened in the culture(keirsy and such). I am sure he knows the MBTI manual exists he seems smart enough. You need to see the other videos not make prejudgments on just the introduction.
 

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Architect your missing the point because that is exactly his criticism not what he personally thinks.

I watched the series. Don't over judge my post, I'm simply throwing out some random thoughts as I went through it. Like I say it's not bad overall.
 

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random thoughts might imply less interpretation instead more unfounded of implication as i saw only why he said what he did was meant to be for the person unfamiliar with the official standards and only exposed to the stereotypical culture. "Controversy" is not always achedemic
 

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I think these are great for anyone looking for a coherent understanding of the concepts underlying Jungian type theories. It would be best to start with something like this before getting involved in theories like MBTI or Socionics (since it helps put them into perspective).
 

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BTW, I see there is a 50 page pdf available on the net titled psychological types. I am assuming this is the same as chapter 10 of the book "collected volumes of Jung volume 6 psychological types". The book itself is some 608 pages long. Any reason why I should buy this book? Has anyone here read it in full?
 

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Animekitty,

Thank you for posting these videos. It is a good overview which makes it easy to grasp the basics of Jungian Typology.

I don't believe that Jung would approve of the MBTI. It is an abstraction for rational thinkers to avoid truly understanding a complex rationally-irrational cognitive process. While it may be useful in some contexts, it is antithesis of what Jung was about.

These videos show little understanding of Carl Jung. This is painfully obvious in lesson 3.3 "The Irrational Functions" which are caused common misconceptions that Jung was fully aware of.

The usage of the term irrational in this context is not synonymous with the term illogical. This is from the rational bias that the narrator expressed in the videos. If you have trouble understanding this idea, then you are likely a rigidly rational thinker.

Most people cultivate only one function, so they characteristically approach a situation relying on the one dominant or superior function.

Jung basically calls these people sheep that need shepherds to guide them through life. I would classify science as the shepherd of dominantly rational thinkers; and religion as the shepherd of dominantly irrational thinkers. This is why I classify science as a religion ( of facts ).

Jung also makes the distinction between facts and truths. INTPs for example may logically deduce that all facts are truths. This could not be further from the truth.

Some people develop two functions, and a few very mature individuals have cultivated three.

INTPs for example, neglect their tertiary and inferior functions to the point of complete denial of their validity. However, they typically develop their auxiliary function ( Extraverted Intuition ) and their dominant function ( Introverted Thinking ) to a high degree.

At around 35 years old; an INTP will start to develop their tertiary function ( Introverted Sensing ). This is extremely difficult for an INTP to understand because their previous two functions were based in reality. So the idea of irrational thought would appear to be invalid and useless to a closed-minded INTP. I mean literally sorting ideas by categorically putting them into boxes, which is both judgemental and closed-minded.

A person who has theoretically achieved self-realization or individuation would have all four functions highly developed.

If the narrator achieved individuation, then they would have a deep understanding of Jung and his ideas. This is not the case, and it is the reason that the MBTI was created in the first place. It's a simple explanation that the majority can understand without achieving Self-realization. So it completely misses the point and is the reason for the controversy in regards to the MBTI.

However, the MBTI is an excellent tool if it is used properly. Sadly, this is rarely the case which leads to more of the controversy surrounding the MBTI.
 
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