INTP switching on INTJ mode

[Bijection]

I was wondering if this ever happened to any of you or it's just me.

As a starting point, I have to say that in general I do have some INTJ and INFJ traits in my personality.


The thing is, every once in a (long) while, if I get very upset and tired of my unconclusiveness, I suddenly become very firm, calm, straight and focused, very little-caring of other people's insights or feelings, and I just do what's right to do in order to go forward in life.
Very narcissistic too.
I find that my unusual ways of acting are a rare gift that other people are envious of, rather than a curse.



I have an INTJ friend, and if I stop and think about it in those moments, I find that I'm being extremely similar to him. Everything seems easy and clear, and I have a strong feeling that even if I do wrong, it's still going to be better than what anyone else would have done in my position. It feels like I don't have anything to prove to the world because the world already should have understood that I'm huge quality, and all I have to do is prove that I can consistently be so to myself.



When i chill down and find myself back into more "regular" INTP patterns, while on the one hand I feel like I was missing out on a lot, on the other hand I find that everything is suddenly terribly hard and difficult lol.


Could it actually be this way or it's just me getting angry and thus acting angry? Does this happen to anyone else?

 

[Architect]

It means having a dominant judging function. Not switching to an INTJ, but being a dominant introverted judger and extroverting perceiver it can be confusing.

 

[Anktark]

Sounds somewhat familiar, but I think these are normal INTP work bursts. Flip of the switch from "don't have enough fucks to even check if I have any fucks to give" to "Unleash the overdrive hyper-nova dragon warrior swarms".

 

[computerhxr]

Jung believed that all the functions are largely unconscious and undeveloped in infants. As we grow and develop, the different functions develop. The timing of this development has been the subject of considerable study. It is generally believed that the dominant generally develops up to age 7, the auxiliary up to age 20, the tertiary in the 30s and 40s and the inferior or fourth function at midlife or later.

Basically, you will have a major personality shift during these transitions. It doesn't become your dominant function, but it does become refined and more useful to you. As it develops you begin to trust it as a legitimate function. INTPs tend to deny tertiary & inferior functions which causes a delay in cognitive development.

This is a good thing, and it's what is referred to as a more "mature" INTP.

To clarify, you are not switching to INTJ; you are just strengthening your tertiary and inferior functions (Introverted sensing (Si) & Inferior: Extraverted feeling (Fe) respectively).

S and N are Perceiving functions. T and F are Judging functions. These are the same functions but are expressed in different ways depending on your early developmental preference towards [E]xtroversion or ntroversion.

http://www.timeenoughforlove.org/Notation.htm

What the J and P traits as identified by the MBTI are actually doing is determining which of the four functions the individual has a preference for Extroverting or displaying to the outside world as opposed to which function they Introvert or use internally. So a person who scores with a preference for J on the MBTI has a preference for extroverting their judging function, either T or F. A person who scores P on the MBTI has a preference for extroverting their perceiving function, either N or S. By combining this with the individual’s MBTI score as Extroverted or Introverted, you can determine which function is an individual’s dominant or preferred function.

Essentially, you are growing feelings which as an INTP you probably rejected as irrational emotions. Kudos to you!

This is not to be confused with emotions which is a different concept and not the same as having feelings. A feeling is a cognitive function, and an emotion is an expression or response to thoughts and feelings.

Your anger is frustration caused by the cognitive dissonance created by conflicting thoughts and feelings. Over time you will be able to trust your feelings more and have less conflicting thoughts and feelings.

 

[Jennywocky]

Especially now in recent years, I get into that zone more frequently. I think I've become less "wishy-washy" and more "yeah, whatever, just get it done" in my approach. Life does that to you, there are just some things you end up realizing it's not worth wasting time, or getting bogged down in indecision, or letting other people's emotions make you confused over how to handle them -- there's a level of arbitrary-ness to it all, so you just make that arbitrary decision instead of meandering about and plunge ahead to get it off your plate.

it's all very clear, the path -- all very logical. And it's funny how easy it is once you don't let yourself be confused by all the nuances or other people's approval/disapproval. Their tears and complaints no longer divert me. You just do it and resolve the situation, boom.

I go through those periods when it's like I've been summoning energy for a few weeks/months, gearing up -- and then I usually just get a lot done in a very short time because i'm sick of it hanging over my head. Then, once my momentum stops, I kind of go stagnant again. But for that burst, I'm very productive.

it's funny with my INTP kid (19 now), he's a lot like I remember being when I was 19, but he can frustrate me because he's doing all the typical INTP stuff and getting lost in cycles on indecision over the easiest things to get done. I guess life does change you -- you learn you have to act on some things quickly because it saves you time and energy in the long run, and if you make a mistake, then you adjust course in the middle. And sometimes you screw up and well, that's life too...

Anyway, you don't sound odd to me. Sounds kind of expected.

 

[Pyropyro]

It's a typical INTP burst. I think it's hard to control during the younger years but you'll get the hang of it as you grow older. I'm still thinking how to summon this burst at will.

 

[ae1905]

I was wondering if this ever happened to any of you or it's just me.

As a starting point, I have to say that in general I do have some INTJ and INFJ traits in my personality.


The thing is, every once in a (long) while, if I get very upset and tired of my unconclusiveness, I suddenly become very firm, calm, straight and focused, very little-caring of other people's insights or feelings, and I just do what's right to do in order to go forward in life.
Very narcissistic too.
I find that my unusual ways of acting are a rare gift that other people are envious of, rather than a curse.



I have an INTJ friend, and if I stop and think about it in those moments, I find that I'm being extremely similar to him. Everything seems easy and clear, and I have a strong feeling that even if I do wrong, it's still going to be better than what anyone else would have done in my position. It feels like I don't have anything to prove to the world because the world already should have understood that I'm huge quality, and all I have to do is prove that I can consistently be so to myself.



When i chill down and find myself back into more "regular" INTP patterns, while on the one hand I feel like I was missing out on a lot, on the other hand I find that everything is suddenly terribly hard and difficult lol.


Could it actually be this way or it's just me getting angry and thus acting angry? Does this happen to anyone else?

There are a couple of theories on this. Enneagram says 5s (a type INTPs typically are) go to 8 when they are healthy. Type 8s are typically ENTJs (and ESTPs). Another theory, socionics, says that we all have access to the shadow image of our first two functions and can use them competently, though usually don't because we value them less than the first two functions. So INTPs have Te-Ni somewhere in our toolbox and when needed we take them out and hammer away at some problems. Then we toss them back in the box and go back to being Ti-Ne. Those are the theories. Maybe you've just been hammering away and didn't quite know it? Who knows?

 

[WALKYRIA]

I've been there recently and I love it.. I thought I was an energized INTJ or even ENTP or something... I become some sort of hyperenergetic and focused and balanced... and above all become hyper creative. It usually arrive when I'm arriving at a conclusion.

How do i get there: Being positive and thinking positive, positive vibes, smiling, energetic music( rock, fast house,..Etc) while walking fast, feeling alive, feeling good,... doing good actions... I guess extraverted sensors do it uncounciously but we need to force us into that state I guess.

It's a really good states which you ought to maintain... the problem is when you step back to analyze or if u arrive at a concluson again; u might stop and analyze.