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INTPINTP

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Are we doomed to suck at it?

Any tricks/life hacks/cheat codes to get better at implementing stuff we have already thought out and have a pretty good idea that they'd be successful?

For me, enthusiasm, and not thinking too far ahead seem to be the best methods...
 

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We're doomed with many things :D

Can you give an example of implementation you have in mind?
 

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i think we're just slower at reaching it due to more information/groking thirst. Ne-Si. the advantage is that when we start doing concrete project stuff, it's usually more right.

or maybe not.
 

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A lot of the different personality tests I've taken have said to try to partner with an action oriented person if possible.

Maybe that would work. I don't know. I've missed some pretty good opportunities due to my slowness/indifference to implement ideas.

Maybe we need to determine what are the truly important metrics or necessary information...and try to keep that list to a minimum so we don't overanalyze 1000 different things within the project.

I'm hoping the "Getting Things Done" system will help me in this area. Starting school soon, so we'll see.
 

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I was thinking that, "just doing" without thinking about it might be a good trick. Don't analyze yourself, just do.

Sounds good on paper...
 

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I was thinking that, "just doing" without thinking about it might be a good trick. Don't analyze yourself, just do.

Sounds good on paper...

If only I could implement that idea. ;)
 

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I was thinking that, "just doing" without thinking about it might be a good trick. Don't analyze yourself, just do.

Sounds good on paper...

Tried that, ended with a mess that needed too much re-doing. The best way was to start over.

It helps to have someone above you, kind of boss, or guide. It's my brother, the INFP.

Another way is clustering, make a structure and step-by-step plan. If you don't know where to start, just pick one of the starting points, and have the goal in mind.

For selecting the best option it's best to define the examples you have in mind and decide upon that. It might be preparation for traveling, studying, organizing your work in overall, talking to people etc.
 

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I definitely struggle with that. If can think of a plan for how to do or solve something, I feel like it is already done and have no motivation to actually carry out the plan.

To me it seems that completely ad-hoc solutions, like promising someone else to do it or else you send them cash or whatever, tend to work.
 

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I ain't paying noone! And making promises like "I'll do that to that an that date", which I heard works for many people, have no impact on me.

I hate plans too, and always do what I feel like. Ad-hoc gives lots of motivation and focus when you do it. What I'm suggesting is, not to make detailed plan, just the major keypoints. Let me give personal example. I wake up and know what I have to do (important: no particular order): shower, eat, work (work at home). Withour plan I can't even decide if I want to eat or take shower first. So take half a minute what you prefer first, and pick it. Then set a steps needed to achieve that, and while you think about them, make them. Don't set the whole order at once, and try to follow it- that's boring!

I don't exaggerate, but often I can't even decide if I want to drink first (drink is normally at my hands reach) or go turn the lights on in the room. So I just decide, let's drink first. By that, after I drink, the only option that remains is turning lights on. You don't get bored, becuase you didn't think about the details about how to turn light on (which would be stand up, go to the switch, turn switch on, go back).

The problem is with bigger projects. With them, set the main keypoints, and put all other details in those groups. When you need to do them, pick a main keypoint, and do them add-hoc, but stay within the selected keypoint. With that you get plan, but it's ad-hoc too. Note that you can swap between keypoints as much as you like; just don't combine two different things from different groups.
 
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