How strong do you feel the functions?

[Pizzabeak]

If one were to be of a type then it's reasonably assured that they'll have some familiarity with any associated "cognitive functions". Would it necessarily hold that the first or "dominant" one would be the most felt or intense? Aren't there supposed to be some type of bodily or spatial sensations associated with some of the functions?

I am merely asking this as a curiosity in order to see if there's more information on this for my own minor understanding of the Jungian theories and ideas.

 

[computerhxr]

Disclaimer: I am using observation and intuition to come up with the following information. It makes sense to me but I could be totally wrong.

Cognitive functions do not have any sensation because it has to do with how you process information. However, any function can lead to a sensation.

I posted a brain image to illustrate how I believe the functions work.

[bimgx=550]http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/computerhxr/emotional-response-shortcut_zps6f1ea26e.png[/bimgx]​

If you take a look at the brain, the top layer would be cognitive functions. The bottom portion, near the center is where sensation comes from. I illustrated the short-cut pathways that allow you to react faster (e.g. flight or fight).

The dominant function would be the default section of the upper portion of the brain. When it loops around after thinking, it can end up in the lower potion that is associated with sensation.

If you look closely, you can see that physical touch, taste, and hearing end up going directly through the lower potion of the brain by proximity.

In the core section, there are glands that excrete chemicals that react to inputs when you need to have a sensation. If you see something scary, then something squirts out some adrenaline so you have an altered perception of time. The penal gland is in the same area.

So, the dominant function would be where ideas will go first by proximity. Then it would be paired by the polar opposite, and loop around through each function. When you are born, you don't know what the fuck is going on, so you have to choose one and ignore everything else. Over time, you will master the function and you will learn to use the other functions. Basically, you either learn by touching and putting shit in your mouth, or you observe. That is how you have introversion or extroversion. Just use bipolar waves and follow by proximity to see where the signal will go.

Your brain will take the data and if anything doesn't match, then it will throw up a red flag called cognitive dissonance.

The higher layers are what you would call unconscious. The proximity to sensations would determine how conscious the part of the brain is initially. As you grow you master a portion of the brain and you're able to remain cognizant rather than filtering the signals out.

Take a look at different brain waves and you can get an idea of how much of the brain it will loop through. Short waves will loop through portions of the brain that are in close proximity. Long waves will loop through the outer portions and travel around through portions of the brain that are distant polar areas.

See how the sleep waves are wider? They extend to the outer most regions of the brain as consciousness during sleep. You filter out the small waves that come in from the body-brain.

Let me know if that makes sense. I am working on writing up a document to explain how everything works as a system based on my own ideas.

 

[scenefinale]

Disclaimer: I am using observation and intuition to come up with the following information. It makes sense to me but I could be totally wrong.

Cognitive functions do not have any sensation because it has to do with how you process information. However, any function can lead to a sensation.

I posted a brain image to illustrate how I believe the functions work.

[bimgx=550]http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag448/computerhxr/emotional-response-shortcut_zps6f1ea26e.png[/bimgx]​

If you take a look at the brain, the top layer would be cognitive functions. The bottom portion, near the center is where sensation comes from. I illustrated the short-cut pathways that allow you to react faster (e.g. flight or fight).

The dominant function would be the default section of the upper portion of the brain. When it loops around after thinking, it can end up in the lower potion that is associated with sensation.

If you look closely, you can see that physical touch, taste, and hearing end up going directly through the lower potion of the brain by proximity.

In the core section, there are glands that excrete chemicals that react to inputs when you need to have a sensation. If you see something scary, then something squirts out some adrenaline so you have an altered perception of time. The penal gland is in the same area.

So, the dominant function would be where ideas will go first by proximity. Then it would be paired by the polar opposite, and loop around through each function. When you are born, you don't know what the fuck is going on, so you have to choose one and ignore everything else. Over time, you will master the function and you will learn to use the other functions. Basically, you either learn by touching and putting shit in your mouth, or you observe. That is how you have introversion or extroversion. Just use bipolar waves and follow by proximity to see where the signal will go.

Your brain will take the data and if anything doesn't match, then it will throw up a red flag called cognitive dissonance.

The higher layers are what you would call unconscious. The proximity to sensations would determine how conscious the part of the brain is initially. As you grow you master a portion of the brain and you're able to remain cognizant rather than filtering the signals out.

Take a look at different brain waves and you can get an idea of how much of the brain it will loop through. Short waves will loop through portions of the brain that are in close proximity. Long waves will loop through the outer portions and travel around through portions of the brain that are distant polar areas.

See how the sleep waves are wider? They extend to the outer most regions of the brain as consciousness during sleep. You filter out the small waves that come in from the body-brain.

Let me know if that makes sense. I am working on writing up a document to explain how everything works as a system based on my own ideas.

Do you study neuroscience at university/somewhere else?

 

[computerhxr]

Do you study neuroscience at university/somewhere else?

Nope. Just ideas bouncing around inside my noggin'. Why do you ask?

 

[scenefinale]

Nope. Just ideas bouncing around inside my noggin'. Why do you ask?

I was just curious about how serious you are for pursuing your theory.

 

[mrrhq]

My Ne is not very strong at all. I feel like I want to switch between Ne and Se, especially when I'm in a more energetic mood. I know that I can't really use Se, though. Why? Because I know that by heart I'm an INTP. If I know that, then I would know that an INTP can't logically use Se. One would have to fake it. So maybe my Ne just turns off when I'm alone at various times, but I'm not stuck in a Ti-Si loop or anything. I try to avoid that, like I also avoid depression.

My Ti will always remain the strongest though, so strong that I simply cannot relate or become compatible with actual Te or Fe users. So I also am wary of ENTPs because Ne is their primary, and I don't like that, but they usually seem very nice. I like nice ENFP's better.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I suppose it makes some sense but I sort of don't see how it helps, exactly. I'm guessing different types would have different "default section of upper portion of the brain". This could be substantial but it might not be that simple. In other words stimuli stimulates in people the dominant portion of the brain (which is where the dominant function "is"), which is the information processing aspect in action itself - when all is said and done the signal could then, by default, tickle any associated sensation neurons? All in all I would recommend laying further groundwork and dividing the post up in more relevant, chunkier sections, and present the work in a pdf format for quick, accessible distribution.


But, in a slightly more non reductionist manner, my query is wondering how the functions make one "feel", in a manner such as this: Well, assuming I'm an Pe with it in the auxiliary position that would mean, in some instances, that this second function wouldn't be as strong as the first. However, as a living being, it seems a decent amount of attention is paid to this "outward perceiving process", which could potentially be Ne or Se, or maybe even some inferior Ni (or Si). I would imagine, though, that this is the same or similar for nearly everyone (unless, say, one is blind then priority could be given to some other process).

That being said, if my first function was an Ji one, it sort of doesn't "feel" like it's my dominant, or the strongest one. It also feels as if it's "above" my head, just sort of lingering or floating around that area, in a parabolic like shape, which could just be placebo. The point is, it doesn't necessarily feel like it's the strongest in some default scenarios. Would this mean I'm dominant Pe or could one exercise "stronger" Pe and still be an introvert? Of course.

But that's just how it seems in a resting state. The Ji could still be more, say, influential, than the aux; the aux just seems to have more presence, especially when other processes aren't necessarily needed - within reason. That also being said, the other functions would follow in a descending order, with the inferior effectively feeling like it is spatially "behind" you somewhere, or maybe tucked away deep inside, it being the size of a particle surrounded by megaliths, a plate not fully opaque. Not really.

Maybe it's due to lifestyle but the dominant function sometimes doesn't feel like it's "dominant".

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