How is it like to be normal?

[Visionmaker]

Normal by what means you may be thinking? Well the context of the OP is anything related to the brain. So brain-normal... I have been wondering a lot about what it's like to be normal. Seems ironic that I am posing the question to an INTP forum, but I bet you guys have had a greater feeling of normality than someone like me. It seems I need to add more context. Well, I am a pretty smart dude, and being a pretty smart dude, I only require the slightest pinch of effort to succeed. Succeed at tasks where it would require others full devotion. This is quite the predicament I am in because frankly I don't feel humanised or normal.

Normal people have work ethic and routine, and this is developed because not every intellectual problem is a walk in the park for them. They know how to persevere and the value of hard work, and perhaps to a certain degree this is subconscious. Mediocrity has its benefits. It commonly affords those who have it with discipline and spirit. I am sorely lacking these traits and because of this, I find myself admiring normal people.

I am very curious about how is it like to think like a normal person. For instance, while being taught a new concept, instead of simply downloading the information, what is the journey like? Is it gratifying? Are there epiphanies? How goes your thought process when attempting to tackle problems that require originality and intuition, take for example: designing a firearm? Firearm is the example as I believe most people of a certain age should have an idea of the concept and can at least formulate a new design out of life experiences. Are you scatter-brained or is your thought process orderly?

 

[Helvete]

I would say it could be ok to be normal. I would rate it around a 5/10. Maybe I could experience this through isolating myself completely from others and other external influences as because if they are not like me, or could perhaps change me in some way then that would have to mean they are different to me and that would not fit with what's normal in relation to myself.

As for my thought process, usually scatter brained, sometimes orderly.

 

[Direwolf]

I have possibly the most scatter brained thought process out of everyone i know yet i somehow always beat them to the punch by a good 10 minutes. I go through the same thing vision maker i am considered a pretty snart guy for my age and i get shit done with minimal effort. Because of this i have got in the habit of puttin in little effort and reaping maximum reward, in that sense qualities like perseverance mean little to me because i have never needed them.... All except english. I cant do english.

In regards to being normal i wouldnt want to be, being normal is over rated.

 

[Brontosaurie]

it's kinda bland, kinda whatever



we all are normal sometimes, during some circumstances. some of us like it and others don't.

 

[StevenM]

Let's not use the term 'normal' then. Let's ask what kind of thinking process would be required to have maximum chances for a successful career, family , and long life.

From what I've learned:

1) A moderated value of risk. A person can't be too careful. Even though you can conclude all the possible things that could go wrong, a certain measure of actually just 'diving in' and doing it, despite it's risks, is necessary. I found people who just 'jump in' even with consequences of things not turning out to be good, have better chances of finding success. Whether it be a new job, a new intimate encounter, or experience. Of course, I said "moderated". You don't have to be the next Evel Knievel, or crocodile tamer. I find people who get success don't really calculate all the risks, and in turn, find them out 'after' they give something a try. I believe INTP's calculate all possible risks before hand, and conclude it is better not even attempting. So even though you feel you may not be fully qualified for a job, or you have doubts whether that other person is going to even talk to you, just give it a try anyways.

2)Some things don't matter as much as you think they do. It's easy to get caught up in something, a grand idea, or opinion, and it is the 'be all/ end all" of the world. Something bad happens when you take too much unrelated information, and you make connections with it, and create some delusional meaning or purpose. It's better to just 'let go' of grand ideas that you may have, especially if they are stopping you from getting success. I think people who are able to get through life easier, shrink their problems and ideas. They have ideas, opinions and problems, but they are small and not proportionately 'larger' then everything else going on in their life.

I thought I had more, but I forget. But those two I think are especially directed for INTP's.

 

[ddspada]

I go through the same thing vision maker i am considered a pretty snart guy for my age and i get shit done with minimal effort. Because of this i have got in the habit of puttin in little effort and reaping maximum reward, in that sense qualities like perseverance mean little to me because i have never needed them....

This has happened to me all my life. Quite consistently, I do poorly in activities that require more time and practice than understanding. In particular, homework based on repetition sucks.

 

[Helvete]

Let's not use the term 'normal' then. Let's ask what kind of thinking process would be required to have maximum chances for a successful career, family , and long life.

From what I've learned:

1) A moderated value of risk. A person can't be too careful. Even though you can conclude all the possible things that could go wrong, a certain measure of actually just 'diving in' and doing it, despite it's risks, is necessary. I found people who just 'jump in' even with consequences of things not turning out to be good, have better chances of finding success. Whether it be a new job, a new intimate encounter, or experience. Of course, I said "moderated". You don't have to be the next Evel Knievel, or crocodile tamer. I find people who get success don't really calculate all the risks, and in turn, find them out 'after' they give something a try. I believe INTP's calculate all possible risks before hand, and conclude it is better not even attempting. So even though you feel you may not be fully qualified for a job, or you have doubts whether that other person is going to even talk to you, just give it a try anyways.

2)Some things don't matter as much as you think they do. It's easy to get caught up in something, a grand idea, or opinion, and it is the 'be all/ end all" of the world. Something bad happens when you take too much unrelated information, and you make connections with it, and create some delusional meaning or purpose. It's better to just 'let go' of grand ideas that you may have, especially if they are stopping you from getting success. I think people who are able to get through life easier, shrink their problems and ideas. They have ideas, opinions and problems, but they are small and not proportionately 'larger' then everything else going on in their life.

I thought I had more, but I forget. But those two I think are especially directed for INTP's.

I think you are assuming what is meant by normal or derailing the thread or I'm misunderstanding what you meant.
I would say normal is which attributes are commonly found within a group of people rather than how to be successful, even if those attributes end up leading to success.
So you'd have to take an average of what is normal/common as nobody is likely to be 100% the same. Because of this it'll find middle ground between different extremes and normal will be very bland, unimaginative and not overly successful, you probably won't be rock bottom poor either (assuming we're using current western society as an example).
You don't properly get normal though, the way I'm defining it unless you have no comparison, hence my earlier comment.

 

[StevenM]

Normal by what means you may be thinking? Well the context of the OP is anything related to the brain. So brain-normal... I have been wondering a lot about what it's like to be normal. Seems ironic that I am posing the question to an INTP forum, but I bet you guys have had a greater feeling of normality than someone like me. It seems I need to add more context. Well, I am a pretty smart dude, and being a pretty smart dude, I only require the slightest pinch of effort to succeed. Succeed at tasks where it would require others full devotion. This is quite the predicament I am in because frankly I don't feel humanised or normal.

Normal people have work ethic and routine, and this is developed because not every intellectual problem is a walk in the park for them. They know how to persevere and the value of hard work, and perhaps to a certain degree this is subconscious. Mediocrity has its benefits. It commonly affords those who have it with discipline and spirit. I am sorely lacking these traits and because of this, I find myself admiring normal people.

I am very curious about how is it like to think like a normal person. For instance, while being taught a new concept, instead of simply downloading the information, what is the journey like? Is it gratifying? Are there epiphanies? How goes your thought process when attempting to tackle problems that require originality and intuition, take for example: designing a firearm? Firearm is the example as I believe most people of a certain age should have an idea of the concept and can at least formulate a new design out of life experiences. Are you scatter-brained or is your thought process orderly?

When I read the OP, I guess I was lazy and read everything except for the greyed out areas. I missed the true meaning of the question being asked.

I've always believed the same argument that I've heard people state about being 'normal'. That there is no such thing as normal, or being normal is bad, to embrace being weird and different. But today, I found it to be too cliche, and thought I would take a stab at redefining normal.

My apologies. Continue on.

 

[k9b4]

I am very curious about how is it like to think like a normal person. For instance, while being taught a new concept, instead of simply downloading the information, what is the journey like? Is it gratifying? Are there epiphanies? How goes your thought process when attempting to tackle problems that require originality and intuition, take for example: designing a firearm? Firearm is the example as I believe most people of a certain age should have an idea of the concept and can at least formulate a new design out of life experiences. Are you scatter-brained or is your thought process orderly?

Learning is exactly the same process for everyone. If you are 'talented' in an area, you will learn things of that area faster.

What is a normal person anyway? All people have talents and skills in a range of different areas. From reading your post I guess you are using the word 'normal' to mean 'average academic talent', or something of the sort.

People of 'average academic talent' will learn things in exactly the same way as you, only slower.

 

[ChouMasamori]

This has happened to me all my life. Quite consistently, I do poorly in activities that require more time and practice than understanding. In particular, homework based on repetition sucks.

I feel you.

 

[ChouMasamori]

Learning is exactly the same process for everyone. If you are 'talented' in an area, you will learn things of that area faster.

What is a normal person anyway? All people have talents and skills in a range of different areas. From reading your post I guess you are using the word 'normal' to mean 'average academic talent', or something of the sort.

People of 'average academic talent' will learn things in exactly the same way as you, only slower.

True enough, It's just a matter of speed. But, often cases are where they are too slow and either stopped trying to understand or can't seem to understand.

 

[ChouMasamori]

Normal by what means you may be thinking? Well the context of the OP is anything related to the brain. So brain-normal... I have been wondering a lot about what it's like to be normal. Seems ironic that I am posing the question to an INTP forum, but I bet you guys have had a greater feeling of normality than someone like me. It seems I need to add more context. Well, I am a pretty smart dude, and being a pretty smart dude, I only require the slightest pinch of effort to succeed. Succeed at tasks where it would require others full devotion. This is quite the predicament I am in because frankly I don't feel humanised or normal.

Normal people have work ethic and routine, and this is developed because not every intellectual problem is a walk in the park for them. They know how to persevere and the value of hard work, and perhaps to a certain degree this is subconscious. Mediocrity has its benefits. It commonly affords those who have it with discipline and spirit. I am sorely lacking these traits and because of this, I find myself admiring normal people.

I am very curious about how is it like to think like a normal person. For instance, while being taught a new concept, instead of simply downloading the information, what is the journey like? Is it gratifying? Are there epiphanies? How goes your thought process when attempting to tackle problems that require originality and intuition, take for example: designing a firearm? Firearm is the example as I believe most people of a certain age should have an idea of the concept and can at least formulate a new design out of life experiences. Are you scatter-brained or is your thought process orderly?

I truly can relate. I'm lacking the basics of life which is effort and determination. I just always can't seem to understand their thinking that your value is determined by your spent-hours. Work smarter not harder.

 

[mooncrater]

Try becoming a stoner, and spending a lot of time around your stoner friends. Your intellectual edge evaporates with that extra powerful hit. You are fucked up, and you're fucked up. The main difference between you and others is your level of tolerance and intoxication. It's a nice feeling to forget about...levels other than highness.

I felt that I could relate better to other people when I was high. People liked me better too. The stoner guy cares about getting stoned and is not intellectually intimidating. He's funny, he smiles, he's non-judgmental, he's easy to be around. I had lots of friends when I was a stoner, but few before and after. And the actions involved in finding weed on a regular basis, building trust/rapport with people, etc. lead to overall social development. People tend to trust you and feel kinship with you after smoking together.

I....had lots of girls openly fawning over me when I was a stoner, I...was less intimidating and easily approachable by...I gotta go make a couple texts

 

[Anktark]

Don't have anything to compare to. How is it like to be weird?

 

[Mordecai]

Normal by what means you may be thinking? Well the context of the OP is anything related to the brain. So brain-normal... I have been wondering a lot about what it's like to be normal. Seems ironic that I am posing the question to an INTP forum, but I bet you guys have had a greater feeling of normality than someone like me. It seems I need to add more context. Well, I am a pretty smart dude, and being a pretty smart dude, I only require the slightest pinch of effort to succeed. Succeed at tasks where it would require others full devotion. This is quite the predicament I am in because frankly I don't feel humanised or normal.

Normal people have work ethic and routine, and this is developed because not every intellectual problem is a walk in the park for them. They know how to persevere and the value of hard work, and perhaps to a certain degree this is subconscious. Mediocrity has its benefits. It commonly affords those who have it with discipline and spirit. I am sorely lacking these traits and because of this, I find myself admiring normal people.

I am very curious about how is it like to think like a normal person. For instance, while being taught a new concept, instead of simply downloading the information, what is the journey like? Is it gratifying? Are there epiphanies? How goes your thought process when attempting to tackle problems that require originality and intuition, take for example: designing a firearm? Firearm is the example as I believe most people of a certain age should have an idea of the concept and can at least formulate a new design out of life experiences. Are you scatter-brained or is your thought process orderly?

Normal is mundane. Plenty of people live in a society where divergence from the norms is considered weird, which really sucks. I wish the word normal had no meaning so no one could be it. Then, everyone's creativity and uniqueness could really shine