How do you feel about videos in which people die?

[TheManBeyond]

Recently i posted a video of a guy who's inside a infatable ball that goes out of control and goes down the mountain. It's pretty impressive + funny as hell but i look for it on the web to know what happened to the guy and found out that he actually died. I mean in the video you can't see that he dies, you just see a ball going down a cliff so you get a strong impression but nothing else.
That brought to mind this question, how do you feel about these kind of videos?
I mean, i can't say now that the video isn't funny, but how do i have to operate here? i can't tell my mind you should hate the video and feel guilty for watching it. Looks like some inferior feeling question.
If you want i can erase it from the post, if you don't mind well let me know your view.

 

[Cognisant]

There was two people in that ball, what happened to the other?

Did one jump out and if so which one lived?

 

[nanook]

I just hate all types of "fail" videos, regardless of how harmless the accidents are, especially compilations of them.

But i don't judge you for posting this.

I'm even subscribed to a tumblr of this one xxtp dude who posts really horrific things. He doesn't think it's funny, it's just that odd nihilist jazz that irks thinking types. Looks like a meditation about their own resentfulness against the emotional coldness of their upbringing.

I can't tolerate much of this imagery, but i feel that i should be aware of what sort of shit happens in reality. I can handle two or three nasty images per week. You know, like a gif of a truck rolling over a kids head and driving on as if nothing has happened, filmed by a survivance camera. It hurts spelling this out.

 

[TheManBeyond]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259094/The-horrific-moment-father-young-girls-dies-inflatable-ball-zorbing-spins-control-falls-cliff-Russian-ski-resort.html

 

[TheManBeyond]

Looks like a meditation about their own resentfulness against the emotional coldness of their upbringing.

lol
edit: damn i wanted to edit my last post and add this
too late

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

i think i expose myself to lots of videos and pictures of people dying, especially when im trying to learn more about war-stricken countries. i always reach a point where i start asking myself why am i watching or reading about this?
i guess, in a way, i want to try and share/experience some of the suffering myself or maybe somehow "bear witness" to it(how wishy washy)

 

[Cherry Cola]

Nice, I posted it earlier this day as well. I was fully aware that one of the guys died offscreen. But it doesn't really bother me. Besides this was a classic and hilarious case of Darwinism in action.

 

[Cognisant]

I thought to myself "don't go zorbing unless you know where the ball will stop" and didn't think much more of it, it's tragic that someone died but I don't know them so it doesn't really upset me, I imagine myself in their situation and feel horrified but I don't dwell on it.

i guess, in a way, i want to try and share/experience some of the suffering myself or maybe somehow "bear witness" to it(how wishy washy)

See now I might be cold but that's weird and scary, people who over-empathize seem more subject to their emotions and emotions are fickle things, whenever I do something stupid it's because emotions affected my judgement, when around emotional people I'm always on guard for whatever irrational thing they might do.

 

[Jennywocky]

Something can be funny but morTifying at once. It's also different if you actually see the body versus something from a distance. I'd not laugh if I knew someone was paralyzed or dead, but i do laugh at those parkour-gone-wrong compilation videos I've seen online.

 

[Cognisant]

Here's something interesting to consider, why do we laugh?
What is laughter?

There's the theory that it's a flood of endorphins/serotonin/dopamine or something like that which comes upon the release of tension, we see someone hurt themselves and cringe with sympathy then laugh because we don't feel any of the pain some part of our brain was tricked into expecting.

But we also laugh for entirely abstract reasons, puns might be cringe inducing but they're still amusing, we often laugh when our expectations are subverted or exceeded, we even laugh at unlikely circumstances because they're unlikely (sitcom comedy).

There's something very strange going on here.

 

[Brontosaurie]

i'm feela nothing couse imma supa cool internet cyboptrgg poawhhbg

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I feel their pain and suffering. I can't look for too long or I either have to stop feeling or stop watching. They are mere statistics where I'm in no position to do anything about it and they only serve to show the cruelty of the environment which is a lesson one doesn't always get when watching animal predators, but yes, it's no different in this human realm where unleashed individuals are capable of delivering of any order of cruelty. Ridiculous suicide or accident is just that, a pointless piece of information better left where it came from.

My favourite historian used to say accidents and personal affairs should not constitute the "news". I fully agree with that sentiment.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I just hate all types of "fail" videos, regardless of how harmless the accidents are, especially compilations of them.

But i don't judge you for posting this.

I'm even subscribed to a tumblr of this one xxtp dude who posts really horrific things. He doesn't think it's funny, it's just that odd nihilist jazz that irks thinking types. Looks like a meditation about their own resentfulness against the emotional coldness of their upbringing.

I can't tolerate much of this imagery, but i feel that i should be aware of what sort of shit happens in reality. I can handle two or three nasty images per week. You know, like a gif of a truck rolling over a kids head and driving on as if nothing has happened, filmed by a survivance camera. It hurts spelling this out.

What about this one (you dont see the actual death and you can tell whats going to happen before it happens)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ne7p_7HaG0

I can't get past how funny it is. I mean it's not like laughing at it will make him any deader.

 

[nanook]

didn't feel anything but tense about that.

look, i can have humor, but if you warn me about how it involves a death, i can not relax enough to be humorous. the same for a collage. i know after one or two items of the collage wether the guy who created the collage is a fucking dork who is capable of posting horrific things or whether he has some limits. if he is a dork, i can not relax and i get angry at the video. if it has some light humor, i can relax and have regular "schadenfreude".

this was funny to me (nobody gets hurt):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8s1nOe4Wis


physical slapstick is more funny to me, than a bad case of human stupidity, because i'm likely to get basically angry at or earnest about stupidity.

this is also beautiful. the final dance of a washing machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8

 

[Jennywocky]

I didn't find cherry's video funny in the least.

 

[Cherry Cola]

If you think parkour gone wrong is funnier than that clip you are disqualified

 

[nanook]

this video is one of my favorites, it makes fun of how trigger happy human beings are when all they care about is their stupid ideas, or simply about how any human idea, when taken to manifestation in a very consequential manner, will probably cause suffering. it's a hilarious theme and a good example for what humour is: you realize something about your own human nature and are liberated from the very thing, through witnessing it. transcendence is relaxing, humor is relaxation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

 

[Mordecai]

For a video in which someone does not die, but I hear they died because of it, I feel sad for their death but not disturbed by the video itself in anyway.

However

In a video in which someone actually dies, I freak out. I've only seen one and it really really shook me. Luckily, it turned out to be fake, so my eyes have yet to see the true horrors of the world

 

[Alias]

A church I was once at tried to guilt-trip me by explaining how three college students were warned not to go near a waterfall by a fence, signs, and people yelling. And of course, they went and swam in the river that led to the waterfall. One slipped on the rock floor and was carried away, the second grabbed her hand to save her and was taken, and the third met the same fate by trying to rescue the others. It was sad that they died, but the way it happened was absolutely hilarious. And then when a I don't pretend to care for them like an ESFJ, they think I'm cold just because of a slapstick misfortune. Of course, if it is a serious, tragic death I care. But caring or not caring will not change anything.

 

[peoplesuck]

How can you feel bad about somebody you dont know dying and not feel bad all the time? people die every few minutes, just because this one has a face makes it different?
i call buwel shet

 

[Jennywocky]

If you think parkour gone wrong is funnier than that clip you are disqualified

Oh come on...parkour-gone-wrong is pretty damn funny.

Watching some idiot drive purposefully into an elevator shaft is like watching someone purposefully suicide.

How can you feel bad about somebody you dont know dying and not feel bad all the time? people die every few minutes, just because this one has a face makes it different?
i call buwel shet

People suck.

 

[Nanith Omicron]

Funny.
Specially if there's baby involve.

 

[TheManBeyond]

damn sloth XD

 

[Minuend]

How I react depends on the video. In some cases I think that it is good to see some death in case some murderous sneak should break into my house and I have to quickily get over the fact that people close to me are dead and bloody and concentrating on escaping/ strike back. You know, normal everyday stuff. It's the same reason I sometimes simulate scenarios in which I have to stab someone with my very sharp kitchen knife to protect myself.

Anyways. If I laughed at it, I wouldn't really feel guilty about it afterwards. I would probably watch it again with the knowledge and imagine how it feels to maybe see your bouncy ball mate being crushed as you roll down the mountainside.

I mainly use videos like this as a source to learn and absorb new things. I learn a lot by observing. I am a bit worried about stumbling across something I wouldn't be able to handle. I have only watched bits of certain videos in case it should impact me more forcefully than I have experienced thus far. If I know I'm about to watch someone die, I'm being more careful.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Watching some idiot drive purposefully into an elevator shaft is like watching someone purposefully suicide.

Precisely, that is enourmously funny. A spur of the moment suicide brought on by personality defects, he's like something out of fiction except better.

Meanwhile parkour is just the most basic of humours around.

 

[Brontosaurie]

the elevator shaft guy is more than slapstick. it keeps going and building, orgasmic. i am defensing carry cola and we are friends and our credibility is now questionable.

 

[Jennywocky]

the elevator shaft guy is more than slapstick. it keeps going and building, orgasmic. i am defensing carry cola and we are friends and our credibility is now questionable.

video please, we won't be satisfied with mere posts where you express your love for each other using terms like,"shaft" and "orgasmic".

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hjdC8-jbw

 

[J-man]

I tried to watch one of the ISIS beheading videos but I couldn't do it.

I did see a video of a woman being beheaded once. It was extremely disturbing. I wanted to find the people who did it and give them something even worse.

I can appreciate that someone might think the ball video is funny. Part of me maybe even wants to laugh at the elevator guy.

 

[Brontosaurie]

video please, we won't be satisfied with mere posts where you express your love for each other using terms like,"shaft" and "orgasmic".

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hjdC8-jbw

actually i was partly having a penis and sex on my mind.

the video has been posted by carry cola and you have failed to refute it.

 

[Jennywocky]

actually i was partly having a penis and sex on my mind.

the video has been posted by carry cola and you have failed to refute it.

What video? The one that was just stupid and decidedly unfunny, of some dumbass committing suicide in an elevator shaft, or some other video?

Were you voicing this post through a phone mic? "Carry" cola?

... and come on: Isn't this parkour humor gold???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCGX0YnuXtg

 

[Vion]

Empathy orgy up in the house giving the fucks! Lol it is funny when some beta decides to throw more people at a problem and once out of people their only recourse is to fuck and make more people. Like little human ants with no problem solving skills just keep pushing that boulder.

When you keep slaves and child laborers you are weak and therefor a point of ridicule. Why would anyone want to have sex with such a person? All that abstinence and slut shaming is just a bruised ego.

 

[ActiveMind]

Saw a gif where some dudes ran across a racetrack while cars were at high speed. One guy makes it, the other is eviscerated. Once in a while you'll even see it on the news where some foreign militant suddenly goes down or you'll see aftermath, all on network TV. I'm pretty used to it now but would never seek it out.

That said, when I see people take a tumble, especially when people roll, it's undeniably hilarious to me.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I tried to watch one of the ISIS beheading videos but I couldn't do it.
I did see a video of a woman being beheaded once. It was extremely disturbing.

Elevator guy unnfuny, infatable ball funny, beheaded videos impressive, not funny at any level, disgusting. I saw one which was filmed in the middle of a city street at daylight and i thought it was so amazing that they even brought an ambulance to clean the blood and carry the head away.
Totally normal.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b89_1421360015

 

[Hadoblado]

I don't feel guilty, I just feel bad.

In the right mood these things may (and have in the past) come off as hilarious.

I think that it's sort of a stage of development for people to test where their moral/ethical sense lands them, by exposing themselves to these videos. It's a trial-by-fire in a sense, as it could cause psychological harm even though it's just a record of a happening that you could have worked out as a certainty using statistics anyway. But people often come away thinking themselves either objective and consistent, or morally superior. Win-win-win.

I'm usually less affected by actual happenings such as the beheading above than I am to fictional characters that I'm invested in. Semantically that seems fucked, but it nicely illustrates the first-person vs. detached bias that plagues utilitarians.

 

[Jennywocky]

I'm usually less affected by actual happenings such as the beheading above than I am to fictional characters that I'm invested in. Semantically that seems fucked, but it nicely illustrates the first-person vs. detached bias that plagues utilitarians.

Well, yeah, when my grandfather died (who I rarely saw), I don't remember crying, but I bawl at the end of "The Fountain" pretty consistently. Go figure.

I've noticed a difference with myself where I can read a newstory and not have it really bother me as much, or think of a story and not have it bother me, but watching a video of a real death (or about-to-die) and telling myself, "this isn't special effects, that person is really dying".... well, that actually impacts me. The visual immediacy in spatial + time dimensions for some reason makes it seem far more real to me. I don't feel bad if I watch some incident where there was no permanent damage.

 

[Yellow]

I choose not to watch people being hurt or killed in videos or in certain types of movies. As the result of a bizarre upbringing, I'm under-desensitized. So while I understand that such videos can be important to inform us about the atrocities of the world, I am satisfied to just read about them.

 

[Cherry Cola]

What video? The one that was just stupid and decidedly unfunny, of some dumbass committing suicide in an elevator shaft, or some other video?

Were you voicing this post through a phone mic? "Carry" cola?

... and come on: Isn't this parkour humor gold???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCGX0YnuXtg

Okay some of those were really funny, especially the ones where it's so obvious that it isn't going to work but they just do it anyway.

Still, it's not the same as the epic finger that wheelchair dude gave to the world!

@Nanook: I don't enjoy the really awful stuff at all, but I watch some of it because I feel I should be aware of how fucked up the world can be, which I guess is the same reason you watch the stuff that T dude posts.