How Crazy was Jung

[somebodiesfool]

I don't think he's crazy, just interesting. But I'd casually read some interesting things through the years. I opened up my I Ching the one day and sure enough who's the crazy who wrote the forward but Jung.
http://www.iging.com/intro/foreword.htm

Then I got to reading through the Red Book, it was about a seemingly psychotic episode he had and what he wrote about it.

Then one day I was reading through Psychosis or Transcendence by Lee Sanella
http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/downloads/kundalini-psychosis-or-transcendence.pdf

Sure enough if you read pages 9-10 there is a little blurb about Jung where the author even quotes him:

Jung 1975- "When you succeed in awakening the kundalini, so that it starts to move out of its mere potentiality, you necessarily start a world which is totally different from our world. It is a world of eternity"

To truly appreciate the craziness of the man, I came across a very good thread at another board I read. I won't copy paste to steal from the author but he takes a lot of stuff out of the "Red Book".

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2759280/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2760064/pg1


I really don't have much to add to this other than the man seems to pop up everywhere I seemingly go. It's like leave me alone you old dead guy. Just thought you guys may be interested being an MBTI board and all.

Regards

 

[computerhxr]

Then I got to reading through the Red Book, it was about a seemingly psychotic episode he had and what he wrote about it.

I had a similar experience. It's long but necessary to explain what happened to me. Honestly, there's a lot more but it's going to take years to elaborate.

Spoiler

A little over a month ago, I was under a huge amount of stress. I was working for a client that kept expanding a project, threatening to sue me, and refused to pay. The project was consuming 60+ hours each week, and this had gone on for about 8 months. They wouldn't even spend a couple of hours reviewing the project to help push it along.

On top of that, I had about 6 other clients who did the same thing, but they weren't nearly as bad. I also hired a few contractors who ran macros to "fake" their work, but could not product a single line of code. This pushed back my business and I went into serious amounts of debt. This all happened over the last year.

Prior to this, I had only had a few problem clients but it was rare.

Everything in my life slowly got worse and worse until I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn't pay my state taxes, so they would put a lien on my bank account every month and take every penny that I had. I had been so busy that I neglected my friends and family to a point that I wasn't leaving the house. It was pretty shitty.

When I was younger, I had gone to a psychiatrist a few times. They said that it's possible that I would develop schizophrenia in my mid to late 20's, and it's usually caused by a huge amount of stress. I had avoided this because nothing really bothered me, and I was content with whatever I had.

I knew it was going to happen, so I prepared myself. I've always been really into psychology, so I figured that I would make the best of it. You only have one first time experience, and I didn't want to waste it.

I just let go all at once. I told my client that I wouldn't be working for them anymore. I cancelled pretty much everything that I subscribed to. I stopped paying any bills that I had left, and put in my 30 day notice.

I felt a large surge of energy flow from the left side of my brain, to the right. In that moment, I felt my brain twist and I saw a red circle gradiating down to a dark spot in the middle. This knocked me down to my knees.

I sat there for maybe 20 seconds thinking about it, and I realized... It explains everything that I've ever known. When I realized that, I reconnected with my childhood self and remembered a few lost memories.

The following few weeks, I spent most of my time writing down everything that it meant. I drew pictures and diagrams of what I was thinking. I wrote hundreds of pages just to summarize my ideas so that I wouldn't lose them if it was only temporary. My mind was spinning and it sent me into dark places.

After I finished writing down everything that I could think of, I started to do some research to see if any of it was real. Everything that I looked up either didn't exist, or was exactly what I imagined. The research would spawn more ideas and I would go through this cycle many times before my head was clear again.

I started interpreting religious texts, prophecies, ancient artifacts, and art. I would read it and know what it meant, even though it was vastly different than any interpretation that I could find. It was happening fluently and pretty much everything said the same thing. All of this stuff was interpreted by rationalists that classified it as myth.

I tried to explain what happened in this forum, but no one took it seriously. I didn't really expect anyone to take it seriously, but it was so significant that I felt like I had to tell everyone what I had found out.

About a week ago, I was listening to an audiobook about Carl Jung. It mentions that he had an experience that was just like the one that I had. We had the same ideas as each other and came to the same conclusions.

I haven't had enough time to go through everything or research enough since it happened so recently. I decided that it didn't really matter and that I had a long time to elaborate the details and research what I had discovered. Knowing that Jung had the same experience was comforting.

Knowing that no one would take me seriously was a cue for me to use what I discovered rather than telling people what it meant. I'm over it by now and I have a new trajectory that is really exciting for me. I don't care if people believe me, and I don't really think that they would understand.

I feel like I gained access to the next level of my brain. I can see and understand things that were incredibly difficult for me to understand prior to this. I knew things that I had never seen or researched before in my life. I know things that I couldn't find any information on, and I even know things that no one else knows.

It changed my outlook on life and I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do from here. I'm going back and repairing my business and putting my life back together. I'm not in any rush since it's not likely that someone else would figure out everything that I know before I can do something with it.

I still am having the occasional stress related anger fits that started when this happened. Once I get ahead on bills again, I feel like this won't happen anymore. I'm still learning how to deal with everything since I have never had anything like this happen to me before.

That's my story. Believe it or not. It was a wild ride and I'm a stronger person now.

 

[somebodiesfool]

I had a similar experience. It's long but necessary to explain what happened to me. Honestly, there's a lot more but it's going to take years to elaborate.

Spoiler

A little over a month ago, I was under a huge amount of stress. I was working for a client that kept expanding a project, threatening to sue me, and refused to pay. The project was consuming 60+ hours each week, and this had gone on for about 8 months. They wouldn't even spend a couple of hours reviewing the project to help push it along.

On top of that, I had about 6 other clients who did the same thing, but they weren't nearly as bad. I also hired a few contractors who ran macros to "fake" their work, but could not product a single line of code. This pushed back my business and I went into serious amounts of debt. This all happened over the last year.

Prior to this, I had only had a few problem clients but it was rare.

Everything in my life slowly got worse and worse until I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn't pay my state taxes, so they would put a lien on my bank account every month and take every penny that I had. I had been so busy that I neglected my friends and family to a point that I wasn't leaving the house. It was pretty shitty.

When I was younger, I had gone to a psychiatrist a few times. They said that it's possible that I would develop schizophrenia in my mid to late 20's, and it's usually caused by a huge amount of stress. I had avoided this because nothing really bothered me, and I was content with whatever I had.

I knew it was going to happen, so I prepared myself. I've always been really into psychology, so I figured that I would make the best of it. You only have one first time experience, and I didn't want to waste it.

I just let go all at once. I told my client that I wouldn't be working for them anymore. I cancelled pretty much everything that I subscribed to. I stopped paying any bills that I had left, and put in my 30 day notice.

I felt a large surge of energy flow from the left side of my brain, to the right. In that moment, I felt my brain twist and I saw a red circle gradiating down to a dark spot in the middle. This knocked me down to my knees.

I sat there for maybe 20 seconds thinking about it, and I realized... It explains everything that I've ever known. When I realized that, I reconnected with my childhood self and remembered a few lost memories.

The following few weeks, I spent most of my time writing down everything that it meant. I drew pictures and diagrams of what I was thinking. I wrote hundreds of pages just to summarize my ideas so that I wouldn't lose them if it was only temporary. My mind was spinning and it sent me into dark places.

After I finished writing down everything that I could think of, I started to do some research to see if any of it was real. Everything that I looked up either didn't exist, or was exactly what I imagined. The research would spawn more ideas and I would go through this cycle many times before my head was clear again.

I started interpreting religious texts, prophecies, ancient artifacts, and art. I would read it and know what it meant, even though it was vastly different than any interpretation that I could find. It was happening fluently and pretty much everything said the same thing. All of this stuff was interpreted by rationalists that classified it as myth.

I tried to explain what happened in this forum, but no one took it seriously. I didn't really expect anyone to take it seriously, but it was so significant that I felt like I had to tell everyone what I had found out.

About a week ago, I was listening to an audiobook about Carl Jung. It mentions that he had an experience that was just like the one that I had. We had the same ideas as each other and came to the same conclusions.

I haven't had enough time to go through everything or research enough since it happened so recently. I decided that it didn't really matter and that I had a long time to elaborate the details and research what I had discovered. Knowing that Jung had the same experience was comforting.

Knowing that no one would take me seriously was a cue for me to use what I discovered rather than telling people what it meant. I'm over it by now and I have a new trajectory that is really exciting for me. I don't care if people believe me, and I don't really think that they would understand.

I feel like I gained access to the next level of my brain. I can see and understand things that were incredibly difficult for me to understand prior to this. I knew things that I had never seen or researched before in my life. I know things that I couldn't find any information on, and I even know things that no one else knows.

It changed my outlook on life and I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do from here. I'm going back and repairing my business and putting my life back together. I'm not in any rush since it's not likely that someone else would figure out everything that I know before I can do something with it.

I still am having the occasional stress related anger fits that started when this happened. Once I get ahead on bills again, I feel like this won't happen anymore. I'm still learning how to deal with everything since I have never had anything like this happen to me before.

That's my story. Believe it or not. It was a wild ride and I'm a stronger person now.

Hey, don't feel bad I had a similar experience. I've been hospitalized for psychosis 3 times now. It is like you said when you go to interpret ancient and religious texts. I would be reading these hard parables from Christianity and I'd be like that's it plain as day.

Anyway, I had been into MBTI and psychology in my youth. So, that's why I had the strange reading selection. So, I had remembered Jung popping up at every turn in my journey. I had used my brain to figure out what happened. I think Jung was quoted the best psychologist is the one inside your own head. I think I finally came to the conclusion that I had what easterners called a Kundalini Awakening experience. They have many more techniques through yoga, meditation, and qi gong to deal with my issues. Psych meds tend to mess me up and I am really sensitive to them.

Regardless, I came to the psychosis book years back. In addition, I started doing I Ching readings to try to gain insight and answers into my life. I won't even get into mine, I could write a book on it and I'll spare you other than I'm fine today and really just need to avoid heavy stress and make sure I get my sleep. But generally no one really cares. I had one person that was interested at one point it was like a breath of fresh air. Mine came with visual hallucinations though. They were not scary. The best one I could see was my first stint in the hospital a voice told me "show me you can see" and I went into this deep meditative state and I saw this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_pt-5LLP6dM/hqdefault.jpg

 

[computerhxr]

Hey, don't feel bad I had a similar experience. I've been hospitalized for psychosis 3 times now. It is like you said when you go to interpret ancient and religious texts. I would be reading these hard parables from Christianity and I'd be like that's it plain as day.

Honestly, I feel bad for everyone else. I'm sure that most of them probably think that I'm crazy, but I don't really care.

My girlfriend kept pushing me to see a therapist. I didn't want them pushing drugs on me because that was pretty much guaranteed. I told her that I just need to let it out and then I would be fine. Now, I feel fantastic but I still have the crushing debt and stress that I need to deal with before it's totally over.

Anyway, I had been into MBTI and psychology in my youth. So, that's why I had the strange reading selection. So, I had remembered Jung popping up at every turn in my journey. I had used my brain to figure out what happened. I think Jung was quoted the best psychologist is the one inside your own head. I think I finally came to the conclusion that I had what easterners called a Kundalini Awakening experience. They have many more techniques through yoga, meditation, and qi gong to deal with my issues. Psych meds tend to mess me up and I am really sensitive to them.

Jung calls this synchronicity. I found Jung just in time to understand what happened. It's all part of the journey to self awakening.

Mine was a Kundalini Awakening experience as well. Ever since this happened, the area between my neck and shoulders has felt like an intense orgasm.

Once I get my work back in order, I want to start doing yoga daily. It's really good for your health. I'm trying to get my sleep pattern in order as well but it's going to take a while.

Regardless, I came to the psychosis book years back. In addition, I started doing I Ching readings to try to gain insight and answers into my life. I won't even get into mine, I could write a book on it and I'll spare you other than I'm fine today and really just need to avoid heavy stress and make sure I get my sleep. But generally no one really cares. I had one person that was interested at one point it was like a breath of fresh air. Mine came with visual hallucinations though. They were not scary. The best one I could see was my first stint in the hospital a voice told me "show me you can see" and I went into this deep meditative state and I saw this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_pt-5LLP6dM/hqdefault.jpg

I would listen to your story if you wanted to talk about it. I find this fascinating and want to know more about it.

I guess what I saw was similar to the mandala, but it looked totally different. Mine was simplistic and not well defined. I want to get into the I Ching, meditation, Jung psychology, and a bunch of other things but I need to get my shit together first. So I'm trying to avoid looking into it until I'm ready.

It sucks that no one really cares. I've been able to elaborate the details so that it's easy to understand. People actively try to prevent themselves from hearing any of these ideas, and then claim that they are invalid. They won't listen and think that they know everything. To me, that is fucking retarded and illogical. If they denied the ideas after hearing them, then I would understand but that's not the case. Fuck'em!

I want to get to a point where I can see that mandala. You probably opened up more of your chakras that I did.

If you have time, I would want to talk about it more. I would meet up with you if you lived near by. I don't really want to discuss everything in a public forum.

I'm glad that you figured things out and aren't popping pills. It's better to deal with your problems than find meds to block out what your body is communicating to you. As long as it doesn't lead to anything harmful, then you should feel good about it. Everyone else would rather label us crazy than try to actually understand.

 

[somebodiesfool]

Yes, I'd like to talk. I think there is great healing in talking about these kind of things. We can be kundalini buddies.

I'm not sure about your experience. Where you are stalking about the orgasmic energy being is in the throat chakra. Perhaps you have a block there. Perhaps you have a blockage there.

I would love to share my experiences with someone. I am similar to you in that I sort of feel bad for other peope who have not had them. I don't really consider myself sick or disabled but more like awakened or my eyes open. I guess I mean this because my experience made me directly experience God. Which I denied to myself at the time but then things happened in the future after the awakening that were predicted. It was sort of like during the awakening some future events had been shown to me. So, I consider myself lucky to have had them. Some things were also revealed to me that I'd rather not discuss in a public forum else be called a kook.

The I Ching is a great reference book. It's not really to fortune tell or predict the future but moreso to ask the Universe sort of these deep mystical questions you may have. Then you simply throw 6 coins. Whether they land heads up or tails determines what hexagram you construct. Then you turn to the page in the book of the hexagram and get your reading. I don't have mine anymore though, I may buy another but don't really have any questions to ask it right now.

I will drop you my email in PM. Send me an email sometime and we can talk kundalini experiences.