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Whafrodamus

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Okay, you all can stay.

I've been a "on and off" lurker for a bit now, thought I'd say hi. I took the MBTI for a university course, and the results kind of blew my mind. How could a silly personality test accurately predict my thought patterns, actions, and mannerisms with such detail? Needless to say, my mind had been thoroughly blown. I did a little bit if INTP research and stumbled upon here. Reading through all these threads and replies has led me to the inevitable conclusion that you are all a figment of my imagination, and so is the internet. Back to reality.

I was hoping someone would have some insight or perhaps a different point of view to enlighten me. I think i'm going batshit crazy. I am sure most of you INTP'ers are at home in your noggin, as am I. Before I go into this, here's a little background of me:

I graduated college in May, started working full time at the company I had been wit for 3 years. My job consists of driving long long long distances and evaluating asphalt damage. It's fairly simple, but I enjoy it (and it pays well). I have always found it difficult to connect with others during both my university career and the beginning of my professional career. It seems like I'm from another planet. I can act like a "normal" person and have gotten really good at it. In the end, it is still just a porcelain facade. I find myself constantly analyzing how I "should" act in order to best fit in with my surroundings. Rarely is this beneficial as I end up standing out by failing at my camouflage attempt.

Here's my problem. I think I'm going crazy. I feel the disconnect between my mind and body is growing. My body performs its duties, but it is merely a robotic arm in the assembly line of daily routine. Meanwhile, my mind plunders deeply into a world of its own. The world in my head has people, places, experiences, events, conversations, knowledge, etc. but sometimes the two worlds intertwine. My impressions of acquaintances are often formed by who they are in my head. Communicating thoughts, ideas, and/or emotions (or lack of) to others is usually difficult. My thoughts and speech are jumbled, expressing fragments of grand ideas floating around my head. Occasionally, I get out what I want to say... but usually it takes a lot of jumbled explaining, stuttering, and subject changes. I deal with a lot of customers whom I give all very similar jibba-jabba, and that all comes without an issue. I just go on autopilot, blab, listen to key words, and blab some more. But when it comes to bridging the mind-body gap, the bridge just isn't built to handle the traffic.

I am a very heavy pot smoker, and I've done my fair share of psychadelics (LSD and Mushrooms) too. I smoke about a half ounce a week or more. Pretty much for the past 3 years I have been ripping ridiculous amounts of bong during my travels to pass the time, then I venture off into my own little world. Time travel, you know? Alas, I have always just enjoyed the scenery of my mind but now I am beginning to ask "Where am I?". it's kind of like that Talking Heads song. It's almost gotten to the point where I feel my mind has no more use for the physical world. My body performs its tasks, receives its rewards, and keeps on moving while my mind feels like it's been left in another room full of empty books. I can open the book, read the magnificent stories, experience its wonders, and retain its knowledge... but when it comes to bringing that into reality, most is lost in translation. I find I often see myself as an outside observer; an old man sitting on a bench in front of a pond. I need not disturb the water, only enjoy its stillness. I hold my breath indefinitely for the smallest movement will ruin what an eternity of stillness has weaved.


I find a lot of my mental insecurity can be generated from these questions: "is this normal? Is this how I should be?" Not in the hypochondriac but the moralistic sense. All this introversion, pot use, and antisocial behavior should be a downward spiral, right? I got a big promotion at work, bought a new BMW, soon moving into a nice new apartment. All this good shit is happening to me, yet I'm still an introverted borderline self-destructive asshole. I find myself diving deeper and deeper into my head, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep coming back. Every time I wake up, I feel like something is off, something is missing. I just end up getting out of bed, putting on the mask, and pretending to be human. Still, something's off. When I talk to people in person or on the phone, for business or for pleasure, things are strange. Something is missing.

Am I nuts?
 

Whafrodamus

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Holy wall of text, yo! I have ADD. Can I get a synopsis?

I think I am crazy, I smoke too much pot, occasionally hear things, and can't get out of my own head. How are you?

I tend to ramble a little sometimes.
 

SkyWalker

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stop smoking pot?
 

ItsRelative

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Been there too mate, maybe not to that extend :slashnew:

I occasionally smoke pot, but i had my time when i overindulged a bit.
Pot seems to strengthen the disconnect many INTPs feel sometimes, especially if you have no like-minded people around you.
 

eifebiani

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hi whafrodamus I have been there myself both with the drugs and the feeling of being 'different' the experience I had was that when I stopped smoking most of it went away but I have always had some of it! I suspect that it's one of the traits for int personalities! because the two other ints i have met was like that to! what I'm doing is training my social skills through various ways but to be honest I'm not so sure it's working so if any one have better suggetions I would like to know to!
 

ItsRelative

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what I'm doing is training my social skills through various ways but to be honest I'm not so sure it's working so if any one have better suggetions I would like to know to!

I think at the core it's just that atleast for me i only tend to say something if i have something worthwhile and interesting to say, and i have set the bar for interesting too high.

Going to try that actually, start conversations or get in to one even tho it seems uninteresting at first :) It could in many cases lead to more interesting topics or realisations that could not have been forseen.
 

digital angel

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Welcome to the forum. Would you feel comfortable talking to someone, preferably a professional. If you're comfortable with it, check out what your school has to offer. Some educational institutions will offer medical services including counseling. I also recommend that you stop/don't engage in unhealthy and/or illegal activities.

I'm a lawyer.
 

Whafrodamus

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Welcome to the forum. Would you feel comfortable talking to someone, preferably a professional. If you're comfortable with it, check out what your school has to offer. Some educational institutions will offer medical services including counseling. I also recommend that you stop/don't engage in unhealthy and/or illegal activities.

I'm a lawyer.

No more school. Wouldn't mind seeing a shrink, but who wants to pay like 150$/hr to chat with a fat man whilst loafing on a couch. Unhealthy and illegal activities are usually quite fun, and who wants to live a long boring life anyways? (that's very INTP of me, right?)
 

EyeSeeCold

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Am I nuts?

No.

These are nuts:
nuts.jpg
 

eifebiani

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Wouldn't mind seeing a shrink, but who wants to pay like 150$/hr to chat with a fat man whilst loafing on a couch.

I went to a shrink and then another one and then another one. in my experience shrinks have a very strong image of how the world is and are very set on that image so if you fall outside of that image like ints mostly do they just end up going in circles on that topic and not what you need help with! but then again might just have been unlucky! but I would definitely suggest finding an emotional sparring partner to get rid of all that's bottled up and to learn how society works!
 

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You seem like a sane person to me except for the hearing things part. That's probably because of the heavy use of pot. You should stop smoking it if you don't want this. Weed can make you anti-social and lead to or increase that disconnection too.
 

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Whafrodamus

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I went to a shrink and then another one and then another one. in my experience shrinks have a very strong image of how the world is and are very set on that image so if you fall outside of that image like ints mostly do they just end up going in circles on that topic and not what you need help with! but then again might just have been unlucky! but I would definitely suggest finding an emotional sparring partner to get rid of all that's bottled up and to learn how society works!

Thanks! You're probably right. Now comes the hard part.
 

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pjoa09

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Weed + Driving:

"I think that car is part of that building.. so beautiful.. " *Crash* "Ohhhh hahahha"
 

Cavallier

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In some cultures you would be considered on the edge of Nirvana and that's a good thing.

Maybe you should save up your money, buy a nice little cottage on the edge of existance, and enjoy not having to be a part of society.
 

Whafrodamus

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In some cultures you would be considered on the edge of Nirvana and that's a good thing.

Maybe you should save up your money, buy a nice little cottage on the edge of existance, and enjoy not having to be a part of society.

Brilliant!
 

Cavallier

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^...hmmm...brilliant in a "house on fire" sort of way or brilliant in a "hey you kids get off my lawn" sort of way?
 

Whafrodamus

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^...hmmm...brilliant in a "house on fire" sort of way or brilliant in a "hey you kids get off my lawn" sort of way?

Brilliant as "let's burn down the town with bugles at the tips of our fingers".
 

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Nice to meet you Whafrodamus. I can relate to just going to work everyday and going through the motions and feeling like there is a disconnect between the outer and inner world. I graduated college a few years ago and I've entered into the workforce. I find my job pretty monotonous and I don't really relate to the others there very strongly. I spend pretty much the whole day in my head and I go home to continue going further down the spiral. My circle of friends and I have also grown pretty far apart... so I've started to become a bit of a hermit.

After several years of this I've felt like maybe I've gone way too far into introverted / isolation mode and I need some balance. I tend to run away from the things that are difficult for me to do and go further into my head to get away from them. I love being inside my own head, but I'm at point where I also need some contrast.

Normally I jumble words and don't have a lot in common with the people I'm talking to so I tend to fall into the background and escape into my own head. Recently I reconnected with an old friend who was an ENTP who I had a lot in common with where the conversations were excellent and fluid. It felt great and reminded me that there isn't a huge disconnect with everyone I encounter.

Perhaps the thing you are missing could be some of your other traits that are being neglected / underdeveloped. Are you going so deep because it's where you legitimately want to be or are you running from something?
 

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Maybe, just maybe, you could stop doing weed?



Yeah... as if that's ever gonna happen. *sigh*
 

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hi whafrodamus I have been there myself both with the drugs and the feeling of being 'different' the experience I had was that when I stopped smoking most of it went away but I have always had some of it! I suspect that it's one of the traits for int personalities! because the two other ints i have met was like that to! what I'm doing is training my social skills through various ways but to be honest I'm not so sure it's working so if any one have better suggetions I would like to know to!


Fullstop key broken?
 

MissBadHabits

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I'm the same way. I've had my own fantasy world since I can remember, but I always used to be able to distinguish between my world and the world. The past few years or so it's getting more and more difficult to distinguish, I find myself talking to friends about memories that they say never happened and yet I remember them perfectly. It's strange. I've been called schizo, bi polar, crazy, all those lovely things. I've turned to alcohol, it's not a great solution, actually it's not even a solution, drinking just makes me forget everything/not care so therefore there's nothing to confuse. Honestly, the pot smoking probably doesn't help, especially if you want to fit in more with society. However; society sucks, people suck, so keep smoking and don't worry about it, just embrace the fact that you get to live in a world that's way better than the world in which everyone else resides.
 

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stop smoking pot?

^

Stop poisoning you best asset. You are your brain.

If someone was feeding your mother poison would you be happy about that? Prolly not, so you should treat yourself at least as well.
 
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