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Friend has aspergers and tested as INTJ

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He fits the INTJ description really well but my question is in what ways could aspergers affect his specific personality type? Just curious on anything on that topic in general.
 

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Like it would any other? When you have aspie+nt the product can be a caricature sometimes. But it's an extremely broad diagnosis anyway. You know the guy, if this diagnosis of his sheds light on some of his behavior then you can see it, not us. Dunno what to add to this thread.
 

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I also have a friend, INTJ who says she has aspergers. Did you think there is a correlation between INTJ's and aspergers?
 

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http://www.capt.org/research/article/JPT_Vol66_1206.pdf

This is all I've found (not doubting, just sharing)

It said in there about how people with aspergers could tend to space out involuntarily. I've witnessed this multiple times first hand with him if I'm at his house. What would happen is if hes been doing his own thing on the computer for awhile and i call his name it would take multiple times before he would realize it and seem to snap back into it. When I ask why he does it he said because he just "spaces out." There's a chance he could just be ignoring me and just using that as an excuse but this seems pretty legit. I've probably witnessed this on 3-4 occasions.
 

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^ Perseveration, the inability/ reduced ability to switch focus between tasks. If I remember correctly, this can be an indicator of abnormal functioning in the frontal lobes as seen in, among others, aspergers.

Edit: some words just can't be spelled rite
 

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I think there are a great many things about which research needs to be done. I'd like to know how, for instance, each of these affects / is affected by the various types:

Depression
Bipolar
PTSD
Narcissism
Oppositional Defiance
Schizophrenia
Psychosis of various sorts
Autism (across the spectrum)
Political ideology
Religiosity
Birth order

And probably quite a bit more...
 

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I'd like to add to this thread. I was about to start my own on it.

My 4 year old daughter outright quit talking on Easter. She hasn't said a word in weeks. We are completely devastated as you would imagine. She has also been omitting a pattern that is leading us down the road that she may be Autistic, aspergers or Selective Mutism.

However, through all the research I began questioning my own ways and yesterday I took a Aspergers online test. I scored pretty high and it said I likely have aspergers.

However, this test , to me, was nothing more than a different personality test. There were a few motoring skill questions about waving by and moving in circles. From what I gather, Aspergers is basically a personality type/disorder which gently effects your daily motoring skills. Autism is a stronger scale which greatly effects the communication and motoring skills.

INTP + Aspergers = No Chance! I'm living proof!!
 

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First, I'm sorry to hear about the situation with your daughter; I hope that resolves in a good way.

From what I gather, Aspergers is basically a personality type/disorder which gently effects your daily motoring skills.

Second, regarding this quoted bit, I don't know that that's quite right. (Maybe it is, I'm no expert.) From my own experience, with a wife with Asperger's, I'd say that I agree that there are motor skill issues (and she'd agree as well). And, that those with Asperger's have personalities that are not "typical" (though, as they say, "If you've met someone with Asperger's, you've met someone with Asperger's."

She'd almost certainly point out that the issue is neurological. That Aspies have significantly different brain characteristics, and that it is those which account for both the personality and the motor differences.

Or is that what you meant after all?
 

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Seems like the test you took didn't test specifically enough.
 

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I suppose that's what I meant. It may be a neuro issue of course I was just kind of saying it will be reflected through the personality of the subject. I guess that's just my current take on it.

I don't really know about this yet. 2 months ago I would have looked at you funny if you said Aspergers. Now I just read this stuff all day long. I just want to hear my daughters voice again.
 

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That's a good bit of reading i'd like to take my time with. Thanks for posting. I hope it's educational.
 

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^ I wonder about that though. Autism is now seen as a spectrum condition, suggesting shades of grey in cognitive abilities, rather than damage. I've also met some incredibly perceptive and intelligent people that end up having kids that are autistic. It suggests a genetic component, rather than damage, though sometimes genetic mutations are not beneficial, but detrimental or handicaps.

But these people are aware of behavioral/emotional aspects that most others aren't and seem to put a lot of thought into understanding other people; perhaps it's due to a focused ability to think deeply about everything going on around them because it doesn't come intuitively, as the frontal lobe damage theory might suggest, but then at the same time these people have no problem multi-tasking (although one has a hard time with people interjecting dialogue - he tends to monologues and gets frustrated if people interrupt, though honestly I think he just likes to make sure people understand his 'point'). And they are also really well at dealing with obstacles in their lives. One of them, I roughly asked "Why, given a chance to make a mistake, do you assume everything will be fine?" and he waited a couple moments and responded "Because I'm confident in my ability to handle life". He had a good point, "Since the chance for failure was so low, why not be confident?" I had thought. I don't usually take advice from people because most of the time I already know what someone is going to suggest, but I don't forget things that reasonable people say.

But yeah, does this mean when people decide they have a cognitive problem, neuroscience is going to look for what is different about them and label it damage? Is that what autism has become to a neuroscientist?
 

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Ever since I took the aspergers test and it threw a yellow light I'm starting to feel like i'm going down hill. I keep having these moments of confusion where I seem to black out momentarily and come to in a total state of confusion like my mind was erased like they did on Men in Black. It's happening when I drive. I'd really like to think this is just because this is new to me.
 
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