Do other intp's enjoy the recreational use of marijuana as a way to find alternate solutions?

[oiler]

Well do you?

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Mebbe just a little...

The alternate solution thing is probably a little subjective though.

 

[Polaris]

No.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Probably not even intp (might be isfj) but no I don't really enjoy it although I might recreationally do it sometimes, the "alternative solutions" part being inadvertent if anything.

 

[Rook]

I have made some headway into understanding nothingness and it's application to possible parallel universes, but not in a coherent mathematical sense.
Other than that, I use it for mere enjoyment. The best way to find an alternate solution(most times) is to utilise one's imagination coupled with one's rationality.
Mind-altering drugs are rarely the answer to finding actual solutions, although it is how the structure of DNA was divined.

Oh, welcome to the forum.

 

[Lot]

Weed is the alternate solution. Helps my pain. Helps my my stress. Miracle drug I say.

But yeah, it helps me think. Although, some weed makes me stupid and lazy. Depends on what I end up getting. It definitely helps me to see things from a different angle. Mostly a laid back angle. A giggly, laid back, hungry angle.

I forget where I was going with that. The X-Files must have been more important. God I love the X-Files.

 

[Base groove]

Although, some weed makes me stupid and lazy.

solemnly nods at you

 

[Anktark]

Nope, I recreate just from being alone. It's a bit costly, but I think I am an addict by now.

 

[Helvete]

I enjoy the use of marijuana. If I end up with some alternate solutions because of it then bonus

 

[Architect]

Nope. I've seen zero evidence, either anecdotally, clinically or personally, that mind altering substances enhance the ability for original thought. I've found the opposite actually.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I am interested only in LSD

 

[TimeAsylums]

alternative solutions ?=? escapism

LOL

 

[manishboy]

I once had a coworker (a boss, actually) who was an weed aficionado. He claimed it opened his mind, freeing his thinking. One day when we got on the subject he told me of a time when he was sitting on the side of a mountain, smoking it up, and his mind opened up so wide he finally saw it. The spaceship was huge, hovering directly above him. There's more to it, but you get the point. Also, shortly after he told me this story I discovered he had been making regular cash withdrawals from a company account. I'm not claiming causation. Just anecdoting.

I will add that in some cases, with people who are poor users of their mind, substances that destabilize existing patterns of thought might be useful.

 

[deadpixel]

This is a fun question, Me and best friend who is also a thinker used to smoke a good bit when we were younger(18) and had our own apartment. We used to come up with all of these awesome ideas when we were high, but we would be so high that we would forget our ideas the next day. So we would start to write our ideas down as we were high so we wouldnt forget them, then the next day we looked at them and realised how bad these ideas were.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I'll claim people don't indulge for increased thinking capabilities or whatever, but mainly to relax, and any side effects are extra. It's hard to say whether someone would have come to a conclusion about something sans the weed, if so it may have required a longer amount of devotion to it. It's enjoyable because prior one didn't know certain types of things were possible.

 

[Pizzabeak]

This is a fun question, Me and best friend who is also a thinker used to smoke a good bit when we were younger(18) and had our own apartment. We used to come up with all of these awesome ideas when we were high, but we would be so high that we would forget our ideas the next day. So we would start to write our ideas down as we were high so we wouldnt forget them, then the next day we looked at them and realised how bad these ideas were.

Carl Sagan would supposedly write his highdeas down so he could remember the next day but most if not all were relevant/applicable.

 

[Spocksleftball]

Nope. I've seen zero evidence, either anecdotally, clinically or personally, that mind altering substances enhance the ability for original thought. I've found the opposite actually.

Aren't endorphins mind altering drugs?

I certainly would smoke endorphins if it were made available.


OT:
Pot would make me want to play Halo poorly all day.

 

[deadpixel]

Aren't endorphins mind altering drugs?

I certainly would smoke endorphins if it were made available.


OT:
Pot would make me want to play Halo poorly all day.

Part of the reason I dont smoke pot much is because online gaming is my favorite hobby, which im competitive with, and smoking makes me suck at it.

 

[Base groove]

Yeah pot inhibits you in all sorts of ways, particularly attention, memory and learning ability [1]. So if that's what you want out of life, then, smoke weed!

 

[Cavallier]

Finding alternative solutions sounds like work. If I have work to do I don't smoke pot. It's really irritating fighting through the fog.

If I have an afternoon of nothing on my plate I smoke and enjoy the different perspective an altered state provides.

Like Lot, it's a giggly, laid back, munchy kind of altered state. It's not conducive to much productiveness. Even of the thinking sort...especially the thinking sort.

 

[Affinity]

Finding alternative solutions sounds like work. If I have work to do I don't smoke pot. It's really irritating fighting through the fog.

This. It sounds like a good idea, but it rarely is.

 

[Analyzer]

What about caffeine?

 

[Base groove]

Finding alternative solutions sounds like work. If I have work to do I don't smoke pot. It's really irritating fighting through the fog.

If I have an afternoon of nothing on my plate I smoke and enjoy the different perspective an altered state provides.

Like Lot, it's a giggly, laid back, munchy kind of altered state. It's not conducive to much productiveness. Even of the thinking sort...especially the thinking sort.

Alternative solutions and alternative uses and alternative lifestyles. It's almost like a hierarchy of categories. You fall under the 'harmless dabbler' category it seems.

~

Wanted to comment that I won't go to work without it. Every day at lunch I head off in my car and park somewhere. Every morning while I'm on the forum I manage to smoke one before I have to leave.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Yeah pot inhibits you in all sorts of ways, particularly attention, memory and learning ability [1].

One of the reasons it causes these side effects is because it's actively promoting hippocampal neurogenesis, which is why it works as a treatment for PTSD. It's actually the alcohol that gets you.

And CBD nullifies it, so it's all about the strain.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Architect, of course you have. People with issues do drugs a lot more than people without issues and so it is that society is permeated with anti-drug stigma.

You dont notice the people who use relatively harmless non-addictive substances who dont fuck up.

In Sweden this stigma has reached ridiculous proportions.
Oh so you are suicidal, have always felt out of place, suffer from severe anxiety.. Lets see what did your childhood look like? Oh wait! It says here that the last 6 months you've been occasionally smoking weed! Well there we have it! Please stop immediately and give us regular urine samples for 5 months then if you still have issues maybe we can help you, but right now I'm afraid we can do nothing as you've sullied your mind with this devilish substance!"=very common occurance

 

[Rome96]

Architect, of course you have. People with issues do drugs a lot more than people without issues and so it is that society is permeated with anti-drug stigma.

You dont notice the people who use relatively harmless non-addictive substances who dont fuck up.

In Sweden this stigma has reached ridiculous proportions.
Oh so you are suicidal, have always felt out of place, suffer from severe anxiety.. Lets see what did your childhood look like? Oh wait! It says here that the last 6 months you've been occasionally smoking weed! Well there we have it! Please stop immediately and give us regular urine samples for 5 months then if you still have issues maybe we can help you, but right now I'm afraid we can do nothing as you've sullied your mind with this devilish substance!"=very common occurance

I really don't understand why weed is such a big deal in Sweden. I'd prefer teenagers smoking weed over consuming alcohol. They demonize it constantly and it's taboo to even mention it. You'd think Sweden would be more open to legalizing it.

[BIMG]http://i.imgur.com/zPMXZag.jpg[/BIMG]

 

[kris]

I tend to think in tangents when sober, but when intoxicated I focus on one thing at a time. Provided I remain lucid, it can be useful. The thing is, in the extremely rare situations where I want that, I find alcohol is more convenient than marijuana.

 

[Variform]

Well do you?

Not sure what you are asking. Do you mean, e.g. to smoke the fine green herb in a meditative effort to find a new and better way to be concise in forum posts?

In that case, no. I do not use weed for that reason. So I cannot enjoy it for that.

I enjoy it for other reasons. But not to find solutions.

 

[Variform]

Architect, of course you have. People with issues do drugs a lot more than people without issues and so it is that society is permeated with anti-drug stigma.

You dont notice the people who use relatively harmless non-addictive substances who dont fuck up.

In Sweden this stigma has reached ridiculous proportions.
Oh so you are suicidal, have always felt out of place, suffer from severe anxiety.. Lets see what did your childhood look like? Oh wait! It says here that the last 6 months you've been occasionally smoking weed! Well there we have it! Please stop immediately and give us regular urine samples for 5 months then if you still have issues maybe we can help you, but right now I'm afraid we can do nothing as you've sullied your mind with this devilish substance!"=very common occurance

I thought the Dr. Phil show came out of america, not Sweden?!

 

[Variform]

I have made some headway into understanding nothingness and it's application to possible parallel universes, but not in a coherent mathematical sense.
Other than that, I use it for mere enjoyment. The best way to find an alternate solution(most times) is to utilise one's imagination coupled with one's rationality.
Mind-altering drugs are rarely the answer to finding actual solutions, although it is how the structure of DNA was divined.

Oh, welcome to the forum.

Depends on your definition of 'actual'. And 'solutions'. My experience is that psychedelics are 'it' for changing behavioral patterns and opening yourself up. In MBTI terms that means exploring your weaker functions.

But they work in eldritch ways. Very deep beneath the surface.

Weed is barely mind-altering. It is a very mild drug. It is not best suited to make changes in your life or get deep insights. Unless you are very easily affected by THC and TBD I suppose. Milage varies there, right?

I rarely get vivid imagery on weed. It requires relaxation and a little meditation. I have flown over the rooftops of what appeared to be a South European or maybe Mexican village. Just for a few seconds. Little things like that I had but nothing like a true psychedelic.

Weed doesn't give me straight answers to a defined problem.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

"...you've sullied your mind with this devilish substance!"

your attitude is clearly the product of a sullied mind