About Introverts

[Jesin]

I found
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200303/rauch
another link.


I wonder what he was trying to say when he wrote this:

Are introverts arrogant? Hardly. I suppose this common misconception has to do with our being more intelligent, more reflective, more independent, more level-headed, more refined, and more sensitive than extroverts.

 

[loveofreason]

The author obviously has a refined sense of humour.

 

[Kumori]

I'm definitely not arrogant, I just find that most of the time information from extroverts isn't properly thought out, so I value my own, and over introverts' opinions greater.

 

[murkrow]

I skimmed it, and I think the guy is an idiot.

 

[Kuu]

Why?

 

[Ermine]

What a load of crap. While it's partially true, it makes us sound like a helpless group that deserves sympathy. Especially the way it talks about female introverts. It makes it sounds like I'm a hopeless mess. To the contrary, I'm glad to be an introvert.

 

[orion119net]

I got the idea that he's put a few good notes in there and smothered them in sarcasm...

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Is this guy for real?

 

[Dissident]

We gotta help the poor introverts! They cant mange by themselves in our world, oh poor things!

Some of what he says is true, but the guy is kind of passive-aggresive. One moment says that introverts are smarter and more refined, and the next plays the victim. Whatever, i dont need any special treatment.

 

[Jesin]

I forgot to mention that the article is a little old. I found the link on a forum for people with autism and Asperger syndrome. And yes, he has a lot of stuff wrong, but also some stuff right.

What a load of crap. While it's partially true, it makes us sound like a helpless group that deserves sympathy. Especially the way it talks about female introverts. It makes it sounds like I'm a hopeless mess. To the contrary, I'm glad to be an introvert.

Look at the introduction section. Look at how many people have said that, when they found out they were INTP, they were relieved to find out there were other people like them, and there is not something wrong with them any more than anyone else. This article seems similar. He is not saying that introverts are, or should be, ashamed of themselves; in fact he's more than a little smug.

Also, two follow-up articles:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200602u/introverts
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200604u/introversy

 

[Anti-socialite]

I remember being verbally attacked by girls in my 6th grade homeroom class after I ended their argument about the proper spelling of "Santa Claus(no 'e' was my stance)". I could have walked into that classroom and called everyone of them skanks and it wouldn't have elicited the uproar my mediation caused. Within two minutes, there was a girl shouting "HOW CAN IT NOT BE SPELLED WITH AN "E"?" She's saying all of this while waving a "Santa Clause": The Movie advertisement in my face. So I asked her if she'd seen the movie. Apparently that was the last thing I should have done because that nearly made her head explode. As she continued to babble on in bad English and misconception, I tried explaining to her that, if she'd seen the movie, she would grasp that the title of the movie was a play on words; "Claus" to "Clause" because the movie was about the clause in Santa's contract. Honestly, it seemed that the more sense I made, the angrier this girl got. I kid you not. This actually happened. From that moment on it became general concensus that I was 'stuck-up', 'sudiddy', 'conceited'--- every word that means 'arrogant' at a sixth grade reading level.

Arrogance is a judgment, in my opinion. If the wrong person gives the right answer, you can be sure that arrogance will be attributed to that person's character.

 

[loveofreason]

I got the idea that he's put a few good notes in there and smothered them in sarcasm...

Exactly. He's taken some serious background and written a flight of humour. Tongue firmly in cheek.

And Murkrow, I think he's been most loving in his lampooning of extroversion .

 

[murkrow]

The bulbous grains of self held truth in his jokes are barely covered by a thin sprinkling of humor.

 

[loveofreason]

He's holding up stereotypes for light-hearted examination. Some of us, myself included, could do to laugh at ourselves a little more. (Not that you don't already, but bring on some more laughter before the condemnation!)

 

[murkrow]

Well... okay.

Your flattery has succeeded in making me dislike the man less, but the article still failed miserably at interesting me.

 

[severus]

I thought the article was funny. I think he was comparing us to gays...

 

[Raison D'etre]

"Caring for Your Introvert"
It sounds as if we are pets or children. I thought it was pretty funny.

 

[Wisp]

@Severus

Yeah...

"It's an orientation!"

 

[grrreg]

I thought the article was funny. I think he was comparing us to gays...

and i guess that makes it twice as funny for me ...?

 

[flow]

I'm with you, wecaonimabb789. He was a little too biased in that article to be taken seriously.

 

[flow]

by the way wecaonimabb789 isn't a real person, but some kind of chinese nike dunks bot from the future. It needs to be destroyed!

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Someone needs to start a thread entitled "101 Ways to Kill a wecaonimabb789"

I'd do it but I'm too lazy.

 

[Gorgrim]

Nice article. Both alittle funny and a little true.

Are 75% of people extrovertedly-preferred? or was that just something he pulled out from nowhere. I almost always feel like its less than 50%.


But Can you guys not agree with:


"Second, when you see an introvert lost in thought, don't say "What's the matter?" or "Are you all right?" Atleast, something close to that still seems to happen, although that was more 5th grade ish.


Third, don't say anything else, either." that one had some twisted humour in. Imo.

 

[sagewolf]

Look at the introduction section. Look at how many people have said that, when they found out they were INTP, they were relieved to find out there were other people like them, and there is not something wrong with them any more than anyone else. This article seems similar. He is not saying that introverts are, or should be, ashamed of themselves; in fact he's more than a little smug.

And the NTP part has no effect whatsoever? My friends are a bit weirded out by the fact that I don't go to parties, but they're also weirded out by my 'quirky' sense of humor and my complete lack of fashion-give-a-damn and my tendency to zone out and my love of reading and learning new things (then explaining them to anyone who will listen. Lately: NO-ONE). These aren't introvert things: they're INTP things. Specifically INTP as opposed to INFP or INTJ or ISFJ. If, apparently, 25% of the population is introverted (nuh-uh: way more), and 3% are INTPs, then it's no wonder we're happy to find others like us. Because the other 22(+)%... aren't.

But Can you guys not agree with:

"Second, when you see an introvert lost in thought, don't say "What's the matter?" or "Are you all right?" Atleast, something close to that still seems to happen, although that was more 5th grade ish.

Well, yeah. But maybe we need to understand that just because we think the silence, when it falls, is comfortable, that doesn't mean the E does. I made quite a few friends just by figuring that out. And it's nice to be thought of. It reassures me that they do care if I die or not.