A Person's Viewpoint of this Forum.

[Nocturne]

1. Are there a point for this forum? What pleasure do you find here?
2. How do people come up with such odd posts and brilliant comments?

After being on this forum, I have acknowledged some insight to problems and it has opened up a new branch in my tree of life, but I can't help but feel that I have nothing substantial or intellectual or worthy to contribute to threads sometimes. Do any of you feel this way or perhaps it is just me? Simply, how do INTP fish so much information from the internet? Certainly, this has led to somewhat of a frustration for me.

Well, excuse me for venting and come up with some odd comments as you people usually do. I do enjoy it very much.

 

[Moocow]

It's in the nature of the INTP mind to generate revelations only after deriving sensory forms for impulse notions; we only think clearest when we can see our words.

I know I'm not the only one here that learns the most just by reading over my own posts a hundred times, then refining it down to the essentials.

 

[AlisaD]

1. There's supposed to be a point? I thought it was the same as doing anything else. It may be fun. Or I may get bored. I may learn something. Or contract a viral disease.
2. I think your problem is that you try to contribute something substantial, or intellectual, or worthy. We're mostly just pompous asses here. We say things because they sound good, or because winning a debate makes us feel nice about ourselves. The oddness comes from a lack of self-censorship, I think.

Damn it, now it sounds like I don't like this place, while in fact, I enjoy being a pompous ass.

 

[Jesse]

I fully believe every post I make has already been done and better including this one.

Are there a point for this forum? sounds stupid.

how do INTP fish so much information from the internet?

Time. Also the use of links. Maybe practice. When you have searched the net long enough you get good at finding specific things.

On what Moocow said I do that too, like a lot. When formulating opinion I can't help to go over my own over and over again which is probably a determent. It just means my first reaction is wrong and you should just wait until I have stated something 5 or 6 times because by then I will have refined it to something I actually believe in and is probably a lot more concise.

On what AlisaD said I post because;
I try to be funny (which I think I'm horrendous at so if ever (and I mean EVER) find me funny mention it so I can feel good for a brief second).
I try to come of at least semi-intelligent
I do it cause I'm bored and want a reaction
I do it because I want some attention
I like winning argument (my record on this site is statically quite low so congrats I guess)
I like to put forward my own agnostic view on everyone
I like to try to make friends (I fail at this quite spectacularly)
Sometimes people say things so stupid I need to post just to cleanse my soul
I like to go with the crowd and agree with what others have said
I like to think I pat people on the back when they ask for it

On why I come to site
I like seeing arguments play out
I like seeing this site's weird sense of humor that is quite scathing but so harmless at the same time. (It's hard to find a post on here that is truly venomous but almost half of the post here have this sarcastic indifference to them)
I like connecting with those emotional threads (I hardly ever post on those but I do read them)

 

[Moocow]

1. There's supposed to be a point? I thought it was the same as doing anything else. It may be fun. Or I may get bored. I may learn something. Or contract a viral disease.
2. I think your problem is that you try to contribute something substantial, or intellectual, or worthy. We're mostly just pompous asses here. We say things because they sound good, or because winning a debate makes us feel nice about ourselves. The oddness comes from a lack of self-censorship, I think.

Damn it, now it sounds like I don't like this place, while in fact, I enjoy being a pompous ass.

That all just sounds like a waste of time to me. Time I could be using to make something beautiful.
In shorter words, I'm here to think out loud with the convenient oversight of all of you people.

 

[Moocow]

I fully believe every post I make has already been done and better including this one.

Are there a point for this forum? sounds stupid.

how do INTP fish so much information from the internet?

Time. Also the use of links. Maybe practice. When you have searched the net long enough you get good at finding specific things.

On what Moocow said I do that too, like a lot. When formulating opinion I can't help to go over my own over and over again which is probably a determent. It just means my first reaction is wrong and you should just wait until I have stated something 5 or 6 times because by then I will have refined it to something I actually believe in and is probably a lot more concise.

You'll get faster and faster the more you do it, and it's a good thing.

 

[xbox]

Google led me here many times, then I made a spur of the moment screenname. Thought I wouldn't stay here long, but I did. I found many of the stuff, robots, and people here pretty interesting.

 

[AlisaD]

That all just sounds like a waste of time to me. Time I could be using to make something beautiful.

A disciple of Zago?
Trying to put time to good use, to me, is even worse then trying to put money to good use. Makes a man worried, and small, and stingy. There is never enough. There will never be enough.
I will spend what I have on things I enjoy, and will not worry about it. And will not regret wasting it.

In shorter words, I'm here to think out loud with the convenient oversight of all of you people.

Well, that's just rude.

 

[Moocow]

A disciple of Zago?
Trying to put time to good use, to me, is even worse then trying to put money to good use. Makes a man worried, and small, and stingy. There is never enough. There will never be enough.
I will spend what I have on things I enjoy, and will not worry about it. And will not regret wasting it.

I consider it challenging myself. It's nothing to be worried about, but without challenges I may as well be dead. I certainly will feel like it.
Other than the challenge of furthering my ability to articulate myself, there's not much challenge here except perhaps the task of reading enormous amounts of redundant text.

zago makes me nauseous.

Well, that's just rude.

Well it's not like I'm the only one. It's one selfish reason or another.


Furthermore, you're a bit old, aren't you? When I'm your age I may also be content with aimlessness, but I've got a lot ahead of me that requires practice.

 

[xbox]

zago makes me nauseous.

Yeah same.. unfortunately.

 

[The Gopher]

well, my Ne takes over and unleases it's fury on the mere mortals. I don't often think.... that needed re-wording... When I am online I can afford to be an extrovert because when I don't like you I can turn you off. .... ok I said it can you release me now? I don't like being held at gun point.... of course there is forced funny. Which isn't, So I just tend to ramble and if it is worth posting I do.... or even if it isn't I do.... I just do ok? I don't often contribute to the great debates because I get bored... I know I can win I just leave... (heh heh heh[think back to everything I have left{don't tell them this is only partly true}])

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

You're mostly just posting for your own sake. If what you're saying has been said, who cares. Reading something twice cements it more in someone's mind, and so you are making your view known regardless (if you care at all about this). Or, it is a way of seeing how others respond to your viewpoint, and adjusting this if you think their points in regards to it are valid.

So yeah, don't worry about whether you contribution is valuable to others. Just say what you feel like saying.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

1. Are there a point for this forum? What pleasure do you find here?
I like reading all the nonsense everybody (including me) writes, such as vague metaphysical beliefs and whatnot. And I like feeling not alone in this world. This place makes me feel like there are more people like me.

2. How do people come up with such odd posts and brilliant comments?
Brilliant comments? Odd posts? I think what we mainly do is just edit a post 5 times after posting it, because we want our posts to sound perfect. That, and INTPs are known to be a bit witty of course.
(Interestingly enough, this wit only seems to come out well through words, like on this forum. 'In real life', I usually stay quite vague and confused all the time in conversations, making people wonder whether I'm 'all there' or not, or if I'm high.)

 

[Vecho]

This forum is great when you want to find something new to read or just something to read and respond. Having a lot of INTPs around will give you a bigger chance at getting a response which makes a lot of sense and has arguments. Also having peers around should make some people more comfortable. So much information in this forum and it keeps flowing in and thus this becomes the primary source for most of the knowledge which you acquire.
But seeing how many guests come in everyday makes me wonder why don't they register and why are they here? What's their view on this forum if they keep coming back?

 

[Minuend]

Trying to be funny? Trying to sound intelligent? Ha! The only reason why I keep poking at people is because it's such great entertainment and due to my penis issues.

Interacting here is just .....bonding *shudder*

Sometimes thinking out ...loud... shifts perspective.

Tho a topic here and there might contain some insight, yes?

 

[Roni]

1. Are there a point for this forum?

INTP forum = a forum for INTPs

What pleasure do you find here?

Other INTPs and the express permission to be an INTP. A topic can attract hours of my interest, reading and composing long-winded, nit-picking, ultimately pointless posts. Or a topic may not interest me at all and I feel no obligation to pretend otherwise for the sake of courtesy. Sometimes this happens on the same thread.

2. How do people come up with such odd posts and brilliant comments?

INTPs are odd and brilliant. They're just being themselves.

..I can't help but feel that I have nothing substantial or intellectual or worthy to contribute to threads sometimes.

Typical INTP self-assessment & self-doubt. Thank you for posting it. Now look at all the comments you attracted here and assign some worth to striking a chord in a community....
Ta-dah! Clear evidence of a worthy contribution.




...
I do know exactly how you feel though. Some time last century I was lurking the Usenet, peering in the windows of alt.fan.pratchett at a big sparkly party of brilliant witty wonderful people and wishing I was good enough to invite myself in. I did post there a few times and they were perfectly welcoming but I never got over my own self-doubt. When spammers and trolls invaded Usenet alt.fan.pratchett locked itself down and I was never brave enough to approach someone for an invite.
At the time it didn't matter too much - it was just a time-wasting distraction, no great loss - but in hindsight I know I robbed myself of a source of stimulation I wasn't getting anywhere else. By dismissing its importance online I also dismissed its importance when allowing people into my real life. Bad stuff followed. Clichéd lesson learned: be true to yourself. Even if it's just a time-wasting online distraction.

Further reason for posting 'nothing substantial or intellectual or worthy': there are kids reading this.
On any other forum I might have deleted the last two paragraphs as irrelevant and unnecessarily long winded. Here, rambling somewhat off-topic is just what INTPs do. Driving an idea into the ground, posting random thoughts, discussing inconsequential distinctions and lots of other nerds-let-loose stuff is just what INTPs do.
This is A Big Deal.
I've watched Gen Y grow up online, taking their High School Hell into their MySpace networks, considering themselves mature by doing exactly the same thing without the glitter on Facebook, "well d'ah"-ing internet privacy concerns and developing the fake, shallow, inconsequential personalities that are safe to post on Twitter. When I face a friend request from my boss (20yrs my junior, fake, stupid and insecure) and have to consider the career implications of not having him on my friends list when it should be completely bloody obvious I want as little to do with him as possible, I realise the 25 years since high school has been nice but it's all over now. The internet is no longer a respite for introverts.
When I consider the Gen Z INTPs facing this world I think: you poor buggers!
The person I was at 15 could not survive now - like totes in my emo corner haterz - and I'm very seriously concerned for the kids. If a post of mine could give just one of them some hope they're not as isolated, socially ill-equipped or just plain weird as the current world would like them to believe, then my own self-doubts pale to insignificance.
So should yours.

Well, excuse me for venting ...

Me too

 

[Roni]

I try to be funny (which I think I'm horrendous at so if ever (and I mean EVER) find me funny mention it so I can feel good for a brief second).

lol

 

[EditorOne]

Yay Roni. :-) I found myself feeling happier the more of your post I read.

 

[Jesse]

lol

That made me smile.

 

[Meer]

If a post of mine could give just one of them some hope they're not as isolated, socially ill-equipped or just plain weird as the current world would like them to believe, then my own self-doubts pale to insignificance.

Thanks.

There isn't much of a point, although some insights into typology have helped me, maybe.

 

[Cerul]

This forum is here to provide me with another distraction to things I really should be doing.
That, and I find posts here quite amusing usually...could be my weird sense of humour though (stupid firefox telling me it's humor and not humour grrr).

 

[snafupants]

The forum is intriguing because its members have distinct personalities and ideas and experiences, and intelligence informing their opinions. It's also cool when one member says something inflammatory and the other members electronically crowd around screaming fight and generally fanning the flames. Half of the threads here outwardly promote violence and confrontation, it's beautiful.

 

[Nocturne]

Half of the threads here outwardly promote violence and confrontation, it's beautiful.

Hehe, how true, how true. And yes, Artsu Tharaz, this post is all for my sake, though I am seeking other's consolation.

 

[Mello]

1. Are there a point for this forum? What pleasure do you find here?
No.
2. How do people come up with such odd posts and brilliant comments?
They don't.

I try to be funny (which I think I'm horrendous at so if ever (and I mean EVER) find me funny mention it so I can feel good for a brief second).

HAHAHA

 

[Roni]

Yay Roni. :-) I found myself feeling happier the more of your post I read.

say nice things = Roni squirmy INTP

Shoosh you! Let's argue about something.

 

[AlisaD]

say nice things = Roni squirmy INTP

Shoosh you! Let's argue about something.

Oh Roni, that such a fun, clever thing to say.
Squirmy squirm now

 

[Chimera]

Further reason for posting 'nothing substantial or intellectual or worthy': there are kids reading this.

/wave


Like Editor, your post made me happy.
But it also made me intensely fear for the future of my generation.
Therefore, it's a perfect balance.
​

 

[Roni]

Oh Roni, that such a fun, clever thing to say.
Squirmy squirm now

I began composing an effusive post about your subtle wit. It was going to be brilliant and gushy and relevant. But I squirmy squirmed just thinking about it and gave up.
So.
You win this round. I'll get ya next time.
Maybe.

 

[Roni]

But it also made me intensely fear for the future of my generation.
​

Cut it out. It's far too soon to start fearing the future. Just work on being you for now. By the time you're in a position to start seriously worrying about how you're meant to fix the world Gen Y's president Mark Zuckerberg will have written his memoir "The Stuff I Got Wrong" and you'll have a nice neat textbook to work from.

 

[Linsejko]

Zuckerberg is way too full of himself to write that book. I'm more expecting "the stuff I got right".

"ARE THERE A POINT"?

Does this really not bother you guys? How has this been copied and pasted so repeatedly without fixing? If I was a mod, I'd go and change this in the OP and in everyone's response for good measure. xP

I found myself wanting intellectual, relatively impersonal conversation about theoretical topics that I don't get the chance to discuss on a day-to-day basis. I also like being in an environment where I can be appreciated. In general, few people get to see what I am. Here, a large reservoir of my personality that is largely unseen is able to be expressed meaningfully--by which I mean, there are people here that will understand the expression. If I go about everyday life expecting everyone to appreciate that, I will be sorely disappoint. (As many members on this forum experience.)

/ramble

 

[Cavallier]

^Oh, it's bugging the shit out of me but I'm trying to ignore that.

I come here when I bored at work, avoiding work, or need a respite from the uber judgy pecking order of the outside world.

 

[Chimera]

Cut it out. It's far too soon to start fearing the future. Just work on being you for now. By the time you're in a position to start seriously worrying about how you're meant to fix the world Gen Y's president Mark Zuckerberg will have written his memoir "The Stuff I Got Wrong" and you'll have a nice neat textbook to work from.

I'm sure that by then, everything will be in movie format.
...
Back to fearing.​

 

[NinjaSurfer]

I've been drawn to internet forums mostly due to a passing interest in psychoanalysis. Also because I have no friends. That second line is me trying to be funny. I am an INTP myself and am very intrigued in Freud & Jung's work on psychology and all that has developed from their work. From denial to depression to narcissism, among other insecurities-- I am very intrigued by mental quirks that can be detected subtly or overtly from posting and writing behavior. For example, mental narcissism is evident online when someone types way too much, posts a ton, has an air of "I'm high and mighty"-- this is similar to a girl that can't stop checking herself in the mirror...

Internet forums helped me become more emotionally intelligent.

When I first found out about internet forums, combined with one of my manic-depressive days, I exhibited troll-type behavior for days on end just to push peoples' buttons to get a reaction. This was not just folly for me, but a huge learning experience. The amount of people I "met" and "talked to" online would have taken years to accomplish in the real world.

Leading a hermit lifestyle combined with an eccentric personality contributes to a lifetime of being emotionally confused. Before I made some "breakthroughs" (I guess you could call it that) online-- I often did not know I was feeling depression or anxiety, for example.

Since I can only speak for myself-- anxiety sometimes "feels like" my super high capacity brain is finally filled to the brim with too many problems that it is starting to tip over. I have approached life with a very Spock-like logical analysis so that I don't often break down crying like a little girl-- when my current problems would make a grown my fall to his knees and whimper. Okay I'm exaggerating for effect, not really. Point is, I would never know to explain to a psychiatrist, friend, or lover-- that I was experiencing anxiety. Previous in my life, I would most likely express anger because whoever was talking to me would be annoying me because I couldn't hear myself think. They would think me to be irritable and angry and just a plain asshole-- when in reality I was experiencing immense anxiety and unable to express myself.

I increased my emotional intelligence a gazillion percent by annoying people online. At the time, it was fun, oh well. I am child-like to my core but never mean any harm. The flip side to annoying people is building rapport-- I find them one and the same, just two sides to a coin. But, even more poignant, was an observation I had: the amount of anger floating around online is IMMENSE and there are no filters. Imagine all the introverted road rage energy finally gets its collective voice heard, online... this describes most internet forums.

Internet forums serve as humanity's collective emotional tampon, for us to dump our anger and soak the nastiness from the depths of the subconscious.

I rarely decide to open up on the INTP forums anymore because INTP's are terrible at relating on an emotional level and generally end up making you feel bad because something witty they say ends up just making you feel insecure. INFP's are probably the best at understanding how we "feel" but we would most likely need an extravert to reach out and give us that hug.

Cheers you people.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Being that I'm both lazy and time-constrained, I find this forum to be an excellent fishing spot, due to so many fine people here with more time/resources than I who are willing to contribute information.

In exchange, I try my hardest to lighten people's day with a little sarcasm, humor, or combination thereof.