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    Need input: Are the lower functions "slaved" to the dominant or are they independent?

    ^ Have ever heard of fallacies? http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#hominem In a argument, the object need to be analyzed is the opinions themselves, not the man who gave that opinion. Judging based on the opinion itself and supports for it like reasoning, evidences and the...
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    Need input: Are the lower functions "slaved" to the dominant or are they independent?

    I don't give a single shit about your type man, doesn't matter you are S, N, T or F. Your bullshit is that you claim because you are INTP and someone is not same type as you so they have a limited understanding of typology, while INTPs want to know how stuff work so you have better understanding...
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    Need input: Are the lower functions "slaved" to the dominant or are they independent?

    Does it relate whether if it true or not? So? Another form of ad hominem? Just because someone is ESFP or XXXX type so he can't give a point or his opinion is less value than other types? What kind of rational is that? So who state that Dom is not always develop first? Why I have to go read...
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    Need input: Are the lower functions "slaved" to the dominant or are they independent?

    Nope. What I mean is don't seek for the clarity/accuracy of ideas/theories without a certain purpose, in other words when you doing something for certain purpose, you won't need the clarity/accuracy. This is a INTP's critical problem: naturally too perfectionism in theory. If we seek for the...
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    Need input: Are the lower functions "slaved" to the dominant or are they independent?

    Well, I really don't understand why you guys have to seek for the clarity so much. If something works then that's how it work, we really don't need to care the details how it work, once it has done the work for us. If one think one function work alone, or the order just expresses the intensity...
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    How did you become an INTP

    ^ Although I agree that this subject is not kind of something that can't be supported with "evidences", thus the argument's purpose is not going to be true-false result and there are no point for digging in wrong or true... However are you serious when valuating the opinion based on "even less...
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    How did you become an INTP

    What the. Your underlined phrase is what exactly I did when I was a child, I was even pretty good at drawing and won some prizes for kids. But it was pretty normal and not like you thought in the bold. It seem you still hadn't realized your misconception yet, that this type must has these...
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    What has greatest value on earth?

    Simply this. I can't find a certain context or a frame of reference from OP to define the value. Still the question can be answered that everything from a single unit to a big universe has the greatest value, and equal to each other.
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    The ghost tower - Yuureitou

    Sad that I couldn't find any suitable sub forum for manga/comic so I have to post here. Does the forum owner not interest in Manga? http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Yuureitou Have anyone read this manga? I'm currently following this manga for almost one year. It have been fully released one year ago...
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    Do you think I have asperger's, social anxiety, bipolar or severe depression? (please help)

    I re-read the OP carefully and I think it maybe not schizoid PD. However not avoidant too since people with avoidant PD are very sensitive. The OP's writing style did not express that sensitization. What MBTI type do you think you are first? Sound like ISFJ to me(Dependent personality disorder).
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    What are INFJs bad at?

    First, I've just noticed why are there are so many thread about INFJs on an INTP forum? Are there any legit reasons behind it? Second for the topic, is it simple as hell as one type bad at their opposites good at? INFJs bad at ESTP(and certain ISTP's fields) good at. INFJs afraid unfamiliar...
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    How did you become an INTP

    So people must be able to recognized its manifestation from outside right? That's why I said because you believe function work independent, or at least manifested independently. Assumed it work independently, it's just a part of a process and we can't see its manifestation from outside. We can't...
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    How did you become an INTP

    So you think I was wrong about cognitive functions? Just point it out from that Jung's book. If you read it why can't summarize the content, the important parts... so other can understand it simply? I won't say it's my theory, but what I understand directly from basic concepts of cognitive...
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    Hello.

    You lie badly. Although not hardcore as ExFJ, IxFJ spent time on re-view how other look at them. They doesn't want other know their true self. You should choose other types to lie instead of so opposited type like ENTP, assumed that you are true ISFJ. Si people so gruff, unnatural at hiding...
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    How did you become an INTP

    You just really made me feel so nervous and ashamed myself lol. Sometime I really want to join a discussion about complex topics on this forum like history, philosophy, technology or such but my poor grammar just hole me back. The word "imagine" maybe a bad word to describe precisely, it wasn't...
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    Words that piss you off

    Phrases like: "it's the truth", "it's the fact"
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    INTP / ESFJ relationships

    I feel so sorry to hear that seriously, I can feel you and something... sympathy. It's not because I'm also an INTP or I've married to an ESFJ, but because my father is an ESFJ and he had divorce after I was born. I don't know my biological mother type though. I seriously hope that people can...
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    Can we type my IXXP Best Friend?

    The problem is about your method that you use yourself as an INTP figure to compare him. So just because he is different to you then you conclude he is not INTP? why not try to focus on figuring out his Dom and Aux functions? You should blame yourself that you have known him for 20 years but...
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    How did you become an INTP

    what the. That's what I mean. Did you misread my post or something? I'm not a native English one so I'm glad that you use a precise words like "pre-determined". And your bold are the same meaning as my underlined phrase. However it's more similar to the case 2 than case 1 as I stated. I assumed...
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    Mental disorders and enlightenment ?

    It will be arrogant if I say that I was enlightened. But from my personal experience that I got some "feeling" when I was in a long, hard, and dark depression, I would say they have a specific relationship. I'm just not sure what exactly it is.
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    How did you become an INTP

    I think we need to define what is "Develop" here first before the main argument. I believe there are something acts as basic units more than cognitive functions. We may be programmed by that unit/the core when we was born, so for an INTP the "development" of functions will not be like Ti appear...
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    How did you become an INTP

    The bold: that's a theory about figuring how cognitive functions develop from childhood to adult. But if a theory against the original core that Dominant function is the first function develop, it's a wrong theory. You just confused about cognitive function concept. It wasn't simple and...
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    As an INTP what do you think are some personal traits that a boyfriend/girlfriend can't have?

    My ideal figure is opposite to OP's. I don't need my partner have logical or intellectual conversations. Just able to understand the conversation's contexts and every sides of life. Sound like an ESFP or ISFJ. INFJ is good too but they quite rare, I guess I will end up with an ESFP man or ISFJ...
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    How did you become an INTP

    I intent to fix this misconception but someone already did. The bold just was correct. Notice that aux of Introverts not really "workout early". It just support the dom so the brother types never are the same. Ne of INTP support the Ti while Ne of ENTP are the carry. So two Ne but serve...
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    Best video game for INTP

    Remind of my childhood with the kiddy passion for Brood war. It was bitter but it's worth after winning a match. Have you still play it on Iccup or not?
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    I'm unintelligent and I hate it

    You actually should feel good because you just was better at selfawareness yourself. Learning truths about ourselves is always good, lying other about yourself is worse, and lying yourself is the worst. Just not everything is necessary to be told to other. This is actually pretty common for...
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    Am I an INTP, or INFJ? Or something else?

    People who did the test are not, but who totally trust in MBTI tests are retards, doesn't matter whether the test focusing on cognitive functions or general questions. Why? Because most MBTI tests are unreliable. They thought taking a test is an objective method to understand themselves? That's...
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    Am I an INTP, or INFJ? Or something else?

    ^ My mind was like "you fucking noob" but then it's ok. It's your right.
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    Anime suggestions

    Haha you mean wet dream right? When you was talking about it, I just realized I rarely "nocturnal emission". Maybe because I drink too much soy bean milk? But I don't think it affect my biology seriously. Because my little boy still able to get "boner" if be stimulated. I don't think my biology...
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    What has greatest value on earth?

    You was saying something hit right in my spot man. It may not relate to the question from OP. But I always wonder that we made faults, because we was insane. Just keep being sane.
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    Am I an INTP, or INFJ? Or something else?

    How the fuck it is ad hominem? Are you retard or what? I didn't even have any argument with him. Your statement "less obnoxious" even doesn't relate to the bold. I just can't tolerance "something should supposed to be like this, but it is like that". I didn't say he is a noob for every sides...
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    INTPs and Suicide

    You actually can learn from other experience so you don't need to be suffered what other already be. I've learn this from my step mother. She is an ESFP who suffered the Borderline personality disorder. Her mood change damn fast. She can just smile to you and one minute later punch you into the...
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    Anime suggestions

    Seriously, it really doesn't relate to each other to me. I have done something kinda "jerk off" when I was a child, puberty period you know. But I considered it was discovery myself rather than pleasure satisfying. I actually may enjoy watching 2 characters have sex together in anime but I won't...
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    What would happen if we merged INTJ and INTP forum?

    This. couldn't agree more
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    Anime suggestions

    That's the difference between fetishes and sexual orientations. No I don't force you have to like a guy, that's an anime after all. I'm an aromantic asexual but maybe a panromantic asexual in the anime/manga field. Maybe that's why I'm pretty fine if there are two dudes love and have sex together.
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    What would happen if we merged INTJ and INTP forum?

    I'm pretty fine with INTJs tho. Maybe I'm either not an INTP, or I'm an INTP who good at seeing through the problem and don't like to play around.
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    Am I an INTP, or INFJ? Or something else?

    Well said. But she is INFJ. In other words this is natural way of INFJs introduce themselves You are right about INFJ will tend to hide themselves. But the OP is 18 yrs old, it's reasonable enough that she want to be open, or "less experience". And we should encourage people should trust each...
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    Am I an INTP, or INFJ? Or something else?

    lol noob. And only noobs can't immediately recognized what type OP is. Whatever your type are, INTP or not, you guys are still noobs. INFJs are actually the best type at self-awareness. So one people seek for other support to identify themselves, he/she either must be not INFJ, or is an INFJ...
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    My work story

    I don't usually write much, only when my state of mind is abnormal. And I can't believe someone compliment me for that shitty writing style with lot of grammar holes. Thanks anyway just feel better:o
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    Anime suggestions

    But happy and carefree are not genres. And those two OVA are really happy carefree anime I think, no tragedy here. What? shota is fun man. Shota and trap/genderbender are definitely my favorites. Have you watched Baka and test? Try Hideyoshi Kinoshita :D
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    Anime suggestions

    Yeah, shota. So?
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    INTPs and Suicide

    I actually attempted to suicide when I was depressed. Just some shit from deep web. But I threw it to toilet and I just couldn't die. INTPs may think like this about life/death: "We will die eventually, so why we have to live? Should we commit suicide now so we no longer suffered?" Sound logic...
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    Anime suggestions

    I used to prefer reading manga rather watching an anime. But I can recommend Biko no pico, Shounen maid Kuro kun. Note: they are hentai
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    My work story

    What the fuck lmao. How do you know I guessed most people wrong? I don't mind I being biased. This is about psychology after all. But I secrectly cared about them, and I really care and fully understand about MBTI concepts. That's why I'm confident to claim my guessed is not wrong about them...
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    My work story

    I recently starting work as a freelancer, that's merely my very goal when I was in college. But my internship time was another story. I would say that's my biggest mistake I have ever made in my entire life. I joined the internship when I was in depression. That was fucking stupid. They teach...
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    How many of the users on this forum are INTPs?

    Second this. In my room when I was in college there are an INFJ wannabe guy who is actually ISFP. I just feel ridiculous about how people lie about themselves, that most pity thing. However what I really hate is he always listen to music so loud with his speakers. ISFP is actually very easy to...
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    INTP's are becoming obsolete

    I swear this is something very strange to me. Everytime I read a post, a opinion or thought of Architect, his is exactly to mine. Not really exactly but it just somehow is very the same, just in different moments. Not only him though, sometime I feel like other opinion relate to mine too. I...
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    Who came first chicken or the egg? - my childhood answer

    Re: Who came first chicken or the egg? - my chilbettdhood answer I know my grammar and vocabulary sucked but I googled this. According to this definition, my claiming it is mathematics is acceptable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propositional_calculus It's just an example however, does it...
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    Who came first chicken or the egg? - my childhood answer

    Re: Who came first chicken or the egg? - my chilbettdhood answer How the fuck it's not defined precisely? You really need exactly detail conditions for a question like "find x where x=1+1"? Can we just assumed that the condition is mathematics context instead? And how the fuck this is...
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    Who came first chicken or the egg? - my childhood answer

    The fact that they are not different in certain context since egg are protect shell of the chicken, doesn't relate to the meaning of the question. You just try to mislead the point of the question from A to B. It's like in exam they ask a question: "1+1=?" And you answer this: - One water drop...
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