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What are we talking about ?

s0cratus

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What are we talking about ?
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a) We don't know what 'virtual particles' are,
b) we don’t know what electron is,
c) we don't know what water is,
d) we don't know what entropy is,
e) we don’t know what inertia is,
f) we don’t know what ‘string theory ’ is . . . . . etc . . . . etc.
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a)
The concept of virtual particles are . . . 'an approximation scheme'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle


b)
why electron has six (6) formulas and many theories ?
Nobody knows.

c)
"Water is still not fully understood, although it is the basis
of our existence. I expect more surprises to be discovered
in the future."
/ SLAC scientist Anders Nilsson. /
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"In my view, the work on water is yet another example of the
actual complexity of matter, this time within a simple liquid.
Modern X-ray work appears to be triggering a new understanding
of liquids and we may have only seen the beginning of a paradigm
shift in our understanding."
/ Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Laboratory director Jo Stöhr. /

http://phys.org/news134058290.html --
June 30, 2008

d)
Entropy.
1.
Henry Poincare named the conception of "entropy "
as a " surprising abstract ".
2.
Lev Landau (Dau) wrote:
" A question about the physical basis of the
entropy monotonous increasing law remains open ".
3.
Nobel laureate in chemistry 1909 Wilhelm Ostwald
wrote that the entropy is only a shadow of energy.
4.
The mathematician John von Neumann said to
"the father of information theory" Claude Shannon:
" Name it "entropy" then in discussions
you will receive solid advantage, because
nobody knows, what "entropy" basically is ".

e)
Inertia.
Someone wrote:
“ An old professor of mine used to say
that anyone who can answer that question
what inertia is , would win a Nobel Prize. “

f)
Book ‘ The trouble with Physics’
‘ . . . at least one big idea is missing.
How do we find that missing idea?’
/ Page 308. Lee Smolin about ‘ string theory’. /
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What are we talking about ?
We are talking about so called 'philosophy of science'.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. Socratus
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The philosophy of science is concerned with the assumptions, foundations, methods, implications of science, and with the use and merit of science. This discipline sometimes overlaps metaphysics and epistemology, viz., when it explores whether scientific results comprise a study of truth.

In addition to these central problems of science as a whole, many philosophers of science consider problems that apply to particular sciences (e.g. philosophy of biology or philosophy of physics). Some philosophers of science also use contemporary results in science to reach conclusions about philosophy.

Philosophy of science has historically been met with mixed response from the scientific community. Though scientists often contribute to the field, many prominent scientists have felt that the practical effect on their work is limited; a popular quote attributed to physicist Richard Feynman goes, "Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds." In response, some philosophers (e.g. Craig Callender[1]) have suggested that ornithological knowledge would be of great benefit to birds, were it possible for them to possess it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science

http://journal.philsci.org/
 

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We don't know what that iceberg up ahead is either. But we do know if we get close enough to tow it we have a nice source of fresh water. Too close and we risk bumping into it and drown.
 

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Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /
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There were people who said ‘God ‘ and thought about Zeus.
There are people who say ‘God ‘ and think about Holly Cow.
If physicists made a God they would give Him concrete physical parameters.
Can God create a Universe which physicists could not understand ?
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Can God create a (physical) Universe which physicists could not understand ?

Referring to the Quantum universe, to rephrase

Can the Creator create an Observation, which can't be observed, by human Observers?

I assume the answer is in the affirmative.

It is the physicists who create the subset of reality known as the physical universe and as opposed to the Artist, how could the Scientist create anything, anything at all, that he or she could not understand? The physicists limit the universe to being one they can understand. The Physical Universe dare not be greater than the physicists, whereas Art can be greater than the Artists.
 

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Can the Creator create an Observation, which can't be observed, by human Observers?

I assume the answer is in the affirmative.
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physicists invented objects that not possible to see
' virtual particles', 'dark mass/energy', 'quarks' . . . many D-spaces . . . .
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It is the physicists who create the subset of reality known as the physical universe and as opposed to the Artist, how could the Scientist create anything, anything at all, that he or she could not understand?
physicists invented object that not possible to contain ... nuclear explosions.
 
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