The Banning of BAP and Variform

[Ex-User (9062)]

BAP apparently banned for escalating his ongoing conflict with some moderators/admins.
For which i have not found publicly available information.
A lot of this seems to have been going on behind the scenes,
so only the moderators involved in banning him are also the ones who have control over the information which led to the banning.
It smells like judge and jury to me.



Variform banned for being critical of the erosion of traditions in general and the family in particular.
And also, apparently, because of "abuse of privacy".
Did he post anyone's social security number or banking information?
And how did he get access to that information in the first place?
If it was publicly available, or communicated directly between him and the party involved, it has ceased to be private by definition.

Yet for people who live outside of such social stigma (whether by conscious choice or natural deviation), polyamorous relationships have the potential to be incredibly liberating and fulfilling.

That is just your own justification.
((Paragraph edited for offensive commentary and privacy –Kuu))

Is this the alleged "abuse of privacy"?

http://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=442663&postcount=13

I fail to see personal attacks in the quotes listed, except for the last one making allegations of emotional damage.
Other than that, it's just what is to be expected:
[adult content ahead!]

Spoiler

Each day, two goats crossed the same bridge.
The goat from the east crossed the bridge to graze on the grass of the mountain in the west.
The goat from the west crossed the bridge to graze on the grass of the mountain in the east.
One day the goats both started across the bridge at the same time.
They met in the middle of the bridge.
The goat from the east could not get to the west.
The goat from the west could not get to the east.
Neither could get past the other.

"Back up," said the goat from the east. "I am crossing this bridge."
"You back up," said the goat from the west. "I will be the first to cross. You may go after me."

Neither goat could go forward. Both refused to go backward.
First, they puffed themselves up to look bigger.
Next, each tried to out shout the other.
Then they bent their heads forward and aimed their horns at the other.
They locked horns and pushed and pushed.
They pushed each other off the bridge and into the waters below.
Was a lesson learned by either? I fear it was NOT that day.
They both shook off the water and went upon their way.
As the goats both walked away, they both could be heard to say
"If he had not been so stubborn, we both could have eaten today!"
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It's obvious that things can get a little rough when advocates of two opposing ideas clash,
but i have seen nastier arguments here, which did not result in disciplinary measures.
I guess some are more equal than others.
Nonetheless, permaban without warning seems to be over the top in this context,
but again, the root of the problem is the judge and jury mechanism.
(= i can't make a judgement for myself, because the information required in order to do so is being withheld)

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"A round man cannot be expected to fit in a square hole right away. He must have time to modify his shape."
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"The executioner is, I believe, very expert, and my neck is very slender."
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[Fukyo]

We already have a thread on this topic.

Moderators have stated ban reasons in the aforementioned thread, the entire "conflict" with BAP which took part over several months, and is dispersed in several threads, excluding PMs exchanged with moderators is public, if one cares to peruse it. Do your research, everything is on public forums, in fact Kuu has referenced some of the relevant threads in the previous thread and information about Variform's ban and the details are also contained therein.

Thread closed. Don't make duplicates of already closed threads.