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I cant stop laughing. That is dusturbing on sooo many levels.
I kinda like it.:smoker:
 

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What the hell did I just watch?
 

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Gotta love (at least the concept of) fast-paced random reference shit collage with abrasive explosions. Like the Dillinger Escape Plan of comedy.

i like the youtuber's username too
 

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I do love it but it feels weird...
 

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Thanks for posting that. It was internoying.
 

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I was just about to create this thread when I saw it here =)
I'm a big Friendship is Magic fan, I have all the episodes in 720p =D
*Bro-hoof*
 

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INTPs and My Little Pony: FiM

//Because there's a 50% chance you only came here to hate and rant on the show and it's audience, I'm simply going to ask you to please not do that. We know you hate us because we enjoy something you don't; you need not tell us this over and over... Thank you!

Anyhoof, back in February or March this year, I came across a delightful new cartoon called My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. In the show, Twilight Sparkle (as far as I can tell, an INTP) is a very introverted bookworm with no friends at all. After being sent away to Ponyville by Princess Celestia, she ends up accidentally making 5 great friends in her first day. As the series progresses, Twilight Sparkle continues to "study the magic of friendship"... and she slowly becomes less and less introverted because of them.

I've discovered that from watching the show, in addition to just plain loving it (which really supprised me), I was able to connect to Twilight very well, and as she had developed her Fe and other low INTP traits, I did too (especially with other fans of the show). I was wondering if any of you have had similar expiriences with MLP? Please do share them! :)


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Re: INTPs and My Little Pony: FiM

Friendship is the furthest thing from magic.

Friendship is hell.

It's a journey that proves your own banal stupidity for putting trust in others. You'll find that in times you need them the most they turn into ghosts. They don't accept you. They all talk behind your back. You'll find yourself more alone than ever before in a group of friends. You're a child walking among tall shadows.

Friendship is swallowing razor blade after razor blade.

Friendship is crawling through broken glass.

Friendship is the galvanizing razor wire around your neck. It tightens with time. Your kroovy is the life force of friendship.

Friendship is magnets.

 

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Re: INTPs and My Little Pony: FiM

^^^ Has never seen show, much?
 

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Re: INTPs and My Little Pony: FiM

Maybe love is blind, but friendship is clairvoyant.

 

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Re: INTPs and My Little Pony: FiM

//Because there's a 50% chance you only came here to hate and rant on the show and it's audience, I'm simply going to ask you to please not do that. We know you hate us because we enjoy something you don't; you need not tell us this over and over... Thank you!

-TrigintaSeptem

Why should I care that you like a show that I don't?
Why should you care that I don't like a show that you like?

I don't see the correlation between Fe and... MLP. Any INTP can have friends. Just because one is introverted doesn't mean one is incapable of making friends or being social for that matter.

I'm not exactly sure what the point you're trying to make is. I don't like to use the term "fanboy" a lot but this is knocking on the door.

BTW, are you an INTP? Welcome to the forum (INTP or not).
 

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"Studies the magic of friendship" isn't very INTP. Try 'studies the dynamics of friendship' or something like that. There is just nothing that is magical about INTPs or the way they see the world around them.

I can relate to her finding friendship by accident, I have little understanding of why and how I became friends with my friends, it just seems to happen.

I disagree with your claim that she must have become less introverted. It just seems like she never really had friends before but that her new environment forced her to open herself up. If she was introverted before, she probably still is, you don't become less introvert by having friends, the difference is that she isn't a recluse anymore.

That claim comes from the erroneous assumption that introverts are friendless creatures that never go out and that they can't enjoy it. They do have friends and they do go out, although they do it less, and they do enjoy it, although it doesn't give them energy.
 

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Oh, haha, my post got moved here? The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess? I was not making assumptions like that, and If you watched the show, you would recognize that that was just my very short summary of the story, and in Twilights case, she really didn't have friends at all, save her brother... (Was my post really that confusing? ^^)

Here, I am having trouble explaining what my point was, for whatever reason... (thats strange for me...) So, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8YHOnILo
That pretty much explains the story... This was directed at other people who have seen it, though... None of you seem to understand, because you haven't seen it... (i assume)
 

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I'm going to pop in for just a sec. Twilight Sparkle seems more like an introverted SJ. She's very duty minded, and follow the rules. Also friendship is magic.:kilroy:
 

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The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess?

I recently read a post on another forum by someone claiming to be a professional counsellor, he said he sees a lot of mid to late teenagers, as well as some older people, who are claiming to watch the show and are learning these things from it. He said he believes that it is very good that they are learning about these things, but he also finds it very distressing that they need to learn these things, as they are lessons that should be learnt by everyone -regardless of personality- as children.
He also said that most of the people watching the program are tending to form groups more and more exclusively with other people who watch it, and are hence their social skills are actually suffering because they're using it as a means to avoid interacting with the outside world.
However this isn't necessarily true of all people who watch it, as it's only from this persons experience with people who had serious enough issues to need a counsellor.

Personally I don't have a problem with it or with people who watch it, except for what is probably a minority who have become overly obsessed with it and who are basing their entire online personality around it. It's getting to the point where to me it seems as though everyone on the internet who is posting mlp related content is merging into a single person in my minds eye; a single person repeating the same thing over and over. It's just like that angry guy who posts on technology discussions everywhere about how great his mac is and why PCs are so terrible.
I'm being completely serious about this. My issue with MLP is not the content itself, it is that the online presence is the same things over and over and over again. I can only take so much.
 

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I have no problem acting fair and impartial about the show, but I can't deny having contempt for it. I watched the clips, I've heard the arguments for it, but it still makes me cringe.

Can anyone convince me that the fascination with MLP FML among males around their 20s or later is not just some kind of bizarre regression to infancy?
 

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He also said that most of the people watching the program are tending to form groups more and more exclusively with other people who watch it, and are hence their social skills are actually suffering because they're using it as a means to avoid interacting with the outside world.
However this isn't necessarily true of all people who watch it, as it's only from this persons experience with people who had serious enough issues to need a counsellor.

Interesting... Really for me, I've been able to talk about the show, really, even with anti-bronies, and I like to think, at least, that is has also helped outside the show...

As for the groups of us like the, ugh... "Cloppers"... and such, as well as the one's trying to shove it down everyone's throats... yeah... They really embarrass me... But you have to remember, every fandom or subculture has them, you just only hear of the brony ones because that's what everyone else expects from us... There are really a very small amount of the "cloppers" and all them, and the annoying new bronies trying to "convert" the world will cool down soon (I know because I was one... I was also a weeaboo once... ugh..)

And I'm almost positive Twilight is an INTP. I've found several others who agree, as well.
 

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Oh, haha, my post got moved here? The point was, as an INTP, the show and it's community has helped me to be more... friendly, I guess? I was not making assumptions like that, and If you watched the show, you would recognize that that was just my very short summary of the story, and in Twilights case, she really didn't have friends at all, save her brother... (Was my post really that confusing? ^^)

Here, I am having trouble explaining what my point was, for whatever reason... (thats strange for me...) So, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By8YHOnILo
That pretty much explains the story... This was directed at other people who have seen it, though... None of you seem to understand, because you haven't seen it... (i assume)

Do you really need a cartoon intended for little girls to learn you lessons of how to behave in real life? And you don't seem to be so sure of whether the show and the community helped you that much either.

Does it really help you in any way? Are the lessons of the cartoon unique and only this show can learn you? Should a grown up person really be watching stuff like this for lessons?

And I understood you, I don't think you understand me, however. I just thought I would correct you on the "less introvert" thing. An unnecessary correction, maybe.
 

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Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)
 

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Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)

You could try explaining why though. I don't really see why there should be any barrier of understanding between those who have watched it (and 'felt the same way') and someone who hasn't.

I have no ill intentions by saying this; your reasoning (or lack thereof) seems to be quite commonplace where there is no logic, only a wish, a want to believe. Some of the most usual arguments of those that have been "enlightened" by whether it be some religion, ideology, movement or whatever it may be is that the others don't understand and can't understand due to the false idea that if anyone else hasn't been enlightened, it's because they haven't "seen the light". You seem to be more uncertain than I am on this matter.
 

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You could try explaining why though. I don't really see why there should be any barrier of understanding between those who have watched it (and 'felt the same way') and someone who hasn't.

I have no ill intentions by saying this; your reasoning (or lack thereof) seems to be quite commonplace where there is no logic, only a wish, a want to believe. Some of the most usual arguments of those that have been "enlightened" by whether it be some religion, ideology, movement or whatever it may be is that the others don't understand and can't understand due to the false idea that if anyone else hasn't been enlightened, it's because they haven't "seen the light". You seem to be more uncertain than I am on this matter.

I think you might be taking it a step too far here in bringing it to the level of religiosity.
 

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Eh, i don't know... I can't really try to explain what I mean to someone who doesn't feel the same way (Id est, someone who has never watched the show). It's certainly a good show, though! (And I kinda messed up this thread, getting mine moved here... They did have very different purposes... -_-)

Just because we haven't seen the show doesn't mean we don't understand. You are talking to open minds you know. My thing is the message is good "people need friends, etc." but the concept (ponies, female audience, pink, hairstyles etc.) is a major turnoff. That seems obvious though. But hey, do what you do bro.
 

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I gave it a shot and watched one episode. It just seems like an average cartoon with possibly above average animation. I don't think it sucks necessarily, but it seemed stereotypical, with cookie cutter characters and utterly unengaging. The bronies can be really annoying though, especially those that can only communicate in pony memes. -_-
 

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Twilight Sparkle (as far as I can tell, an INTP)
Twilight Sparkle is most certainly not an INTP. After just a few minutes of the first episode I strongly suspected she was an IxTJ (Intuitive most likely given her propensity in magic), and further episodes only served to prove this more and more. How could you ever think she is a perceiving type after Lesson Zero?
Friendship is the furthest thing from magic.

Friendship is hell.

It's a journey that proves your own banal stupidity for putting trust in others. You'll find that in times you need them the most they turn into ghosts. They don't accept you. They all talk behind your back. You'll find yourself more alone than ever before in a group of friends. You're a child walking among tall shadows.

Friendship is swallowing razor blade after razor blade.

Friendship is crawling through broken glass.

Friendship is the galvanizing razor wire around your neck. It tightens with time. Your kroovy is the life force of friendship.

Friendship is magnets.

:|

Alright then, but it all depends on how you look at it. Really, it seems that I was destined to have a perpetually pessimistic and dark personality, though there still appears to be some light shining through. Good and bad in everything, I suppose.

I'm going to pop in for just a sec. Twilight Sparkle seems more like an introverted SJ. She's very duty minded, and follow the rules. Also friendship is magic.:kilroy:
NJ > SJ, but SJ is also a possibility.

But really, are people still relying on such stereotypes as "duty-minded" and "follows the rules" to indicate an SJ? No wonder why I stopped bothering with MBTI.
 

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nil said:
But really, are people still relying on such stereotypes as "duty-minded" and "follows the rules" to indicate an SJ? No wonder why I stopped bothering with MBTI.
Is it any wonder you're pessimistic? That's a rather grandiose expectation you're lamenting.
 

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Is it any wonder you're pessimistic? That's a rather grandiose expectation you're lamenting.

Hehe, very true indeed. Perhaps my expectations are quite a bit higher than they should be.
 

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I think you might be taking it a step too far here in bringing it to the level of religiosity.

It's possible I do. However, they share some traits: a sense of belonging with a community and a sense of guidance. The difference is that these traits are much more minuscule on one side.

Anyway, my point was that people that take certain choices and become devout parts of communities are prone to reason that they take those choices because it helps them, etc., f.e. you point out to a "bizarre regression to infancy" among adults, which I agree on. In line with that, people often take weird religious and spiritual choices, like becoming a member of the church of Scientology, and when they are attacked for it they reason that it helps them.

But why does exactly this cartoon help them? Is it unique in its learnings? Does it have powerful insights that only they have? I don't believe so. You can pretty much find those same morals, learnings, whatnot, etc. everywhere, not in cartoons only; everywhere. It is oriented towards children, however. This is also where the "bizarre regression to infancy" comes in. It probably has more to do with just that than that it helps them develop personally. (Actually, the lessons taught seem to be rather shallow, naive and idealistic; if you're above a certain age. I doubt there are lessons to be taught for a grown up mind.) It is the defense itself, not wanting to admit the real cause behind it, that it's flawed, therefore reasoning that it helps. That is what I want to get to.

It's not the same, but it's similar. I only think that when groupings are criticized, they often come with very similar arguments, that it helps them, that "you" can't understand, rather than admitting that it's flawed and that the lack of an understanding of "why?" from the outsiders is sensible.
 

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Right, I know what you mean. In that case though I doubt most people really have an answer you or I may be looking for. I've yet to see a really distinct and believable one so I have to come up with my own explanation, which is of course going to be rejected outright for being offensive.
 
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