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This is one way we entertained ourselves as teenagers, bought limited edition Zap comix books and went to friends attics and took turns reading comics like a play. Robert Crumb was WEIRD and FANTASTIC stuff mostly for the shock value, not really anything else.

I'm sure people have heard of Fat Freddys Cat, the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, or Mr. Natural, etc.
The comix were a way to read up on counterculture and it was entertaining and different and weird.
Not actually accepting this way of life, or living that, but what was depicted in these gave you a knowlege you would
not otherwise conceive of. A little like Mad Magazine, just for entertainment.

 

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Quite interesting Talk on art

 

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I like Donald Duck comics when I was a kid.
There were not many other comics around that I knew of anyhow.
 

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I actually loved those comics too, we still probably have some (in the back of a closet stuffed with things) and the Scrooge McDuck as well.

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Self learn drawing tips here:



 

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Do you by chance remember how much they cost?
I want to compare the cost of comics in my country.
 

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I'm afraid to go into that closet, but I found them on ebay: Looks like originally around 16.99 and now worth anywhere from 25-200 - scroll down from here:


And here are Donald Duck comics, originally were 10 cents!
 

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Cool thanks.

And here are Donald Duck comics, originally were 10 cents!
Yes, I was buying it for about 1 dollar, converting it in the 90s from my currency to dollar. That is more guess than calculation.
 

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Found a few comics, Archie, Richie Rich, Sad Sack, Korak, Bonanza, Betty and Veronica.
If I ever get to that closet I'll post more. An April 1965 McCalls Magazine.
 

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I actually like drawing comic like figures.
 

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Here is a quick tutorial on how to paint an abstract acrylic painting, super fast:

The paint colors are a fairly expensive brand of acrylic called Golden, probably about $80 worth of paint, but if you want to go cheap, could try Liquitex paint instead:

Titanium White, Carbon or Mars Black, Thalo Turquoise, Quinacradone Magenta and Quin Violet, Ultramarine Blue, Yellow Oxide, Green Gold.

Squeeze out on your palette, or, use a pallette knife to put dabs of the colors above on your glass pallette. Mix a dab of turquoise with some white, and then repeat another dab of turquoise with a little more white, so that you have a few different levels of turquoise.


On a 16 x 20 canvas, using a large 4 or 5 inch regular house paint flat brush and dip in water, then squeeze excess water out, and swipe different levels of turquoise over the whole lower 2/3rds of canvas in wide strokes and paint the sides of the canvas as well.

Use a spray bottle of water to spray the turquoise so that big drips dribble down and make an effect in it, and dab off some areas and leave others. Now use a one inch rounded bristle brush and dip into oxide yellow and paint a few streaks in the sky, alternate with magenta and a little violet and then dip into titanium white and blend the sunset look in wavy or slightly slanted cloud patterns. Paint the sides of canvas similarly. Use a hairdryer on low to lightly air dry the thin first layers. Use old empty tuna cans upside down over paint to keep them from drying out while doing other things.
Now, mix a tiny bit of black and a little dab of ultramarine blue and brush a 2 inch flat brush in streaks in the water, use the spray bottle of water and let big drips run down, and dab a bit so you like what it looks like.

If you have an old t shirt, take a strip of it and wad it up and use it to brush upwards in the streaks of ultramarine blue/black in the water so that it looks like reeds.

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I had no idea how fast a painting could come together with acrylics. But you've got to have brush cleaners and probably want gloves on and use acrylic or glass palette and a straight edge razor to scrape/clean the paint off at the end, once acrylic dries, its a glob you can't get off. I'm still not sure how they clean acrylic up - still learning.

Some different student samples. Anyway, abstracts can be super fast and easy - its about not having too many colors and doing wide broad paint strokes with plain flat house paint brushes mostly, and spraying water for effects. No real talent needed. And, the simple squiggles and wipes and dabs and sprays create your effects.

You can also dab colors on the canvas and use a squeegie and pull straight down and get streaks, then paint other curves in different directions on top.

Brush cleaning tips: Use various jars and just enough water to cover the bristles of each different brush while painting. Wash with regular dish soap and warm water. squeeze all water out and dry vertically with brush down, using clips to hang them to dry.



 

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I am not really much of an artist. At least not a visual artist. I do try and use poetry to communicate though. One of my poems, which I had no intention of it making it into a song even though I wanted it to be made into a song, was actually made into a song. This is the song.

 

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There's drama going on in the niche music world of Rap.

The "beef" is between these artist who are probably in the 99% of people in the entertainment industry only below CEOs, record labels, conglomerates.

I can add more context if interest arises. I'm personally not the most devout rap fan but it's definitely an cool artform.

Aside from that the most interesting aspect for me is that now these rappers are creating singles in response to preceding music that has been made by the opposition. With this comes the expectation of a timely response.

So for example, the song that directly started the beef is this one:


And then this was the response that came ~2 weeks later:

And finally the response to that came out today ~2 weeks after the previous one:


The part that is most fascinating is that we are essentially getting a view of how the supposedly most talented people in the industry can operate (aside from the first one I linked. )

So it takes about 2 weeks for the top 99.9% to create something of said quality in the last two videos. If you think you have more merit, it's simple. give yourself two weeks to make a song, and compare. I think that the speed that you make something, even if it's bad, probably factors more into your success, but still, being able to add more depth in shorter time is definitely a skill these people have.

Unless you are very informed in the subculture, a lot of the messaging is probably going to go over your head, some of it still goes over mine, merely because I'm just not a really looking into it, or because it's such a personal matter between these two artists that most people don't even know about.

I haven't linked my favorite song to come out of this, but that one and euphoria are definitely my favorite.

These bouts don't really change anything in the real world, but for people that care about the culture, it means a lot if their favorite rapper wins, and for that rapper it bring maybe street credit, and probably some indirect opportunities if they are perceived as the "winner" of such a conflict. Even though, to be honest everyone is benefiting from this drama I would say, unless you get really humiliated.
 
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