I may be an INTJ

[BurnedOut]

There has been some disquietude in my head regarding whether I am an INTJ or an INTP. I keep getting typed as INTP and quite a few times, an INTJ.

INTJ makes more sense to me because Te is more relatable to me than Ti. I am quite fact oriented and attempt to function my thinking with considerable empiricism. Anything that does not seemed align to me with facts confounds me greatly. For me, relating the logic with the facts takes a primary role than refining for logic's sake. For me, logic does not mean much if it is not able to translate itself in any kind of tangible form. This is because I don't like my thinking to be directed into a void of possibilities. If I am using my logic, it is should culminate in some expression.

A great deal of everyone around here seem very comfortable with extrapolation but no one of them seem particularly interested in having that extrapolation formalized or realized. This is actually a good thing because it provides more breadth but it is easy to dismiss Te as being too rigid. Actually, that may not be the case at all. Te can be used to comprehend systems in a very structured and organized manner. While it may perform similar tasks such as Ti, it becomes reductive when the notion of 'materially' putting it - in the form of coherent theories or principles or expression or actually a physical form.

Granted, I am not able to explain this properly but I may pass off as an INTP very quickly if my thoughts' direction are not observed closely. They are always converging and never diverging.

However, if someone has read some of my recent posts, they may think I am using Ti but in fact I am employing Te heavily to come to some kind of surmise which I can understand and pass on. My father on the other hand, is a perfect INTP. He is very comfortable with ambiguities and myriad possibilities and has no qualms in switching his logical paradigms or even concocting them from ground-up situationally. Many times he sounds too preposterous and that is how I began to experience that I may actually use Te more than Ti because I am not able to materialize his ideas.

Another qualm I have with rigidly defining Te in contrast to Ti is the fact that most considerations do not pay heed to the fact that refining a paradigm or redefining a paradigm also counts as its function. When a structure is not properly functioning or seems to not performing its said duty properly, it can tweak it and bring it to perfectionism than simply refining it for utilizing its materialistic concepts. Depending on the strength and depth of Ni, it can keep refining the paradigm in a Ti manner. And that is why I feel there is a lowest common denominator to both Ti and Te - refining notwithstanding the end goal of that refinement. Te is portrayed to give up on refinement the moment the paradigm seems functional tangibly. That is simply bias and not actually mentioning the true difference between the two.


Watcha think comrades ?

 

[Black Rose]

I thought I was INTJ but now INFJ. I looked at how I am on the inside and outside.

INTJ perceives everything inside them. Fi evaluates everything inside them. Fe evaluates the outside. So Ni converges on a realization about all conclusions Fi has made. INTJ is driven by will to power - control because everything Fi has decided is good and bad has been a driving force Ni makes as one. Ultimate values it sees as intuitive to the person not rendered immobile but expressed as final.

NiTi is different from NiFi. Ni is convergent realizations but Ti is deductive. Two and two = four. Te builds from the bottom, It takes parts and arages them (emperically). Ti looks at conclussions Te structures. Ti finds the network of casaul realtions X -> Y. Te builds cosal relations. Ti derives Te arages. So Ti derives from Ni convergencies. And Ni converges Ti deductions. INTJ Converges Ni realization with Te arangements looking at what te is building and realizing the merits of good and bad design. Where things need to go next and intuitive ways to get there. NiFe is where Ni converges on outside values and forms unified values or differencies between people and similarities.

Somehing I view as true is that I deduce all is empty. A trumpet contains no music but is simplly a conduit. Same is true for phone lines and internet connections and all computers. Hardware and software is not seporate but the brain morphs to fit the signal. Everything is just arangement plus interaction. An Interference patterns of standing waves. Feedback is the reason we have order.

 

[sushi]

some INTJ seeks extreme certainty to where they are heading in future and goal
that is why Ne is the demon , shadow for them, because it is opposite of certainty, it offers so many choices and uncertainty that cant decide on what to do. What they are learning/ doing now must be useful in future, or serve some goal or direction in the future.

INTP are more open ended, and concerned with future, although they might get stuck with indecisiveness.