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Old 8th-September-2017, 03:44 AM   #1
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Probably everybody loves Chrome (I also do), but that flash/java/unity thing is pissing me off, and mozilla is also heading on that direction, so I'm trying Opera now.

What do you guys use?

I'd also like to hear some IE puns

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I just use Microsoft edge it works just fine for anything and is actually nice. The only thing google is good for is their search engine, i don't care much for anything else of theirs. Getting a non default browser is just another app i really don't need, and doesn't do anything better or more than what i already have.
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I just use Microsoft edge it works just fine for anything and is actually nice. The only thing google is good for is their search engine, i don't care much for anything else of theirs. Getting a non default browser is just another app i really don't need, and doesn't do anything better or more than what i already have.
Oh now I know why you need that cpu. I use Chrome and Opera mostly, Iceweasel for other stuff. Tor for when I need to make a super secret news world saving post.
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Oh now I know why you need that cpu. I use Chrome and Opera mostly, Iceweasel for other stuff. Tor for when I need to make a super secret news world saving post.
Actually, it works just fine with the crappy 1.5 ghz processor i have in my laptop now. I don't actually have the money to get that processor.
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Opera is good so far, I think I'd stick to it for a while.
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Chrome is resource-draining and is a product from a corporation whose goal is to track, monitor and store data on everything you do. I.e. something I would never use.
Among mainstream browsers, firefox is probably best.

Oh, and fuck everything that has to do with microsoft.
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Chrome is resource-draining and is a product from a corporation whose goal is to track, monitor and store data on everything you do. I.e. something I would never use.
Among mainstream browsers, firefox is probably best.

Oh, and fuck everything that has to do with microsoft.
Yeah, but as long as the CIA/NSA/Google/Facebook/Illuminati conspiracy doesn't mark me as target, I'm fine if they see what I do online.

Hello, government agent
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"Best windows web browser?"

For a physics major?
Emacs web wowser running atop GNU Emacs for Windows ... hands down!

But seriously now, if one wants to do screen scraping of text while filtering out a lot of graphical crap, pop ups and such it can be a serious contender.
And something one normally doesn't think of while using a web browser is how inter-operable it is with other apps.
Given that emacs is a thinly veiled lisp engine -- I regard its lisp engine a domain-specific language used to implement what most regard a `text editor', rather than the Swiss Army chain saw it functions as -- it can start with a given URL then proceed to launch tabs in a several web browsers as well as launch EWW -- as mentioned --, w3, curl, wget, or send results to one's org-mode file in progress.
I routinely use GNU emacs to launch tabs in Firefox by simply clicking on hypertext links embedded in various org-mode files which can also be used for self-publishing.

If your bent for physics finds you not only wanting to perform reproducible research in that domain but ALSO on your computer equipment you might want to looking into using *free* GNU emacs for windows along with any number of computer languages whose source codes can be inserted into an org-mode file and evaluated within this/your document itself.

If I were to guess who is using Emacs the most outside of Professional Programmers and CS students I'd have to guess those in the Sciences ... as once one starts using it one's rational, logical, intuitions resonate with those of the peeps who've been developing and USING IT THEMSELVES for decades.
About everything one can do in manual menu-using mode can be scripted if/when wants to automate that erstwhile manual time-consuming error-prone process.

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I'm pretty sure I'm going to check that out. I'm only afraid my software knowledge may not be that advanced to understand the most of your previous post.

Would you like to write a "Emac with GNU for dummies" post? Thanks.
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Would you like to write a "Emacs with GNU for dummies" post?
Thanks.
Not very much, but I can and will give you a few stepping stones to get you from your side of the mud puddle to the other.

As a newb undoubtedly familiar with apps with pull-down menus but little to no experience with either a TUI -- text user interface -- or command-line interface I recommend that you download and install an Emacs for whatever OS you're using.
{aside: Emacs has been ported to every major operating system under the sun.}

Once you've got it installed, use it like a regular GUI app for at least 3 weeks.
Once you're comfortable with it as a plain-ol' GUI app you can confidently experiment without your world crumbling around your ears ... which is what a lot of newbies experience when they try to learn too-new and/or too-much before getting sufficiently grounded to back up a few steps before proceeding on up the learning curve.

While one is using it in GUI mode via pull-down menus he or she will be treated to clues such as C-e, C-x C-e, and such which is short hand the key stroke which will do the same thing as the menu item.

`C' means the <control> key
`M' means the `Meta' key which is usually the `alt' key on most keyboards.

But ... you're not done with your 3-week acclamation yet, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
There are simply shitloads of youtube tutorials ... which we can't presently reference via link via the vBulletin software of this group; which gives us the opportunity to put emacs to use to do an end run around this obstacle.
I can round up a few youtube tutorials, put them in an org-mode file -- which I include in a code block -- then convert the org-mode file into an html file -- also embeddable in a code block -- and those capable of copy-then-paste operations can paste html snippet into a file, click on it, and have it open as a tab in whatever browser they've associated with the html file type.

What follows below is plain text which pasted in a file and opened with org-mode will produce a hierarchical outline. One CAN find the links nested within and copy-then-paste them into an address line of a web browser.


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* org-mode content ready for conversion to html regarding [[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=emacs+for+dummies&t=ffsb&ia=web][emacs for dummies]] as per request of [[https://intpforum.com/member.php?u=14422][JR_IsP]] of [[https://intpforum.com/][INTPforum.org]]
**  [[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=emacs+for+dummies&t=ffsb&ia=web][emacs for dummies duckduckgo search]]  

** [[https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=emacs+tutorial+for+beginners][`emacs tutorial for beginners' hosted on/by Youtube]]

** [[elisp:(org-html-export-as-html)][emacs lisp code for converting the progenitor org-mode file into html anyone can run in their browser of choice]]
The following *should* be able to be copied into a file, then clicked on to launch as a local `web page' via your default web browser:

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
<head>
<title>org-mode content ready for conversion to html regarding `emacs for dummies' as per request of JR_IsP of INTPforum</title>
<!-- 2017-11-04 Sat 13:35 -->
<meta  http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8" />
<meta  name="generator" content="Org-mode" />
<style type="text/css">
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  .title  { text-align: center; }
  .todo   { font-family: monospace; color: red; }
  .done   { color: green; }
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  .timestamp { color: #bebebe; }
  .timestamp-kwd { color: #5f9ea0; }
  .right  { margin-left: auto; margin-right: 0px;  text-align: right; }
  .left   { margin-left: 0px;  margin-right: auto; text-align: left; }
  .center { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; }
  .underline { text-decoration: underline; }
  #postamble p, #preamble p { font-size: 90%; margin: .2em; }
  p.verse { margin-left: 3%; }
  pre {
    border: 1px solid #ccc;
    box-shadow: 3px 3px 3px #eee;
    padding: 8pt;
    font-family: monospace;
    overflow: auto;
    margin: 1.2em;
  }
  pre.src {
    position: relative;
    overflow: visible;
    padding-top: 1.2em;
  }
  pre.src:before {
    display: none;
    position: absolute;
    background-color: white;
    top: -10px;
    right: 10px;
    padding: 3px;
    border: 1px solid black;
  }
  pre.src:hover:before { display: inline;}
  pre.src-sh:before    { content: 'sh'; }
  pre.src-bash:before  { content: 'sh'; }
  pre.src-emacs-lisp:before { content: 'Emacs Lisp'; }
  pre.src-R:before     { content: 'R'; }
  pre.src-perl:before  { content: 'Perl'; }
  pre.src-java:before  { content: 'Java'; }
  pre.src-sql:before   { content: 'SQL'; }

  table { border-collapse:collapse; }
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  th.left   { text-align: center;   }
  th.center { text-align: center; }
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  dt { font-weight: bold; }
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  .inlinetask {
    padding: 10px;
    border: 2px solid gray;
    margin: 10px;
    background: #ffffcc;
  }
  #org-div-home-and-up
   { text-align: right; font-size: 70%; white-space: nowrap; }
  textarea { overflow-x: auto; }
  .linenr { font-size: smaller }
  .code-highlighted { background-color: #ffff00; }
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  #org-info-js_console-label
    { font-size: 10px; font-weight: bold; white-space: nowrap; }
  .org-info-js_search-highlight
    { background-color: #ffff00; color: #000000; font-weight: bold; }
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</style>
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JavaScript code in this tag.

Copyright (C) 2012-2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

The JavaScript code in this tag is free software: you can
redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU
General Public License (GNU GPL) as published by the Free Software
Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option)
any later version.  The code is distributed WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY;
without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU GPL for more details.

As additional permission under GNU GPL version 3 section 7, you
may distribute non-source (e.g., minimized or compacted) forms of
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section 4, provided you include this license notice and a URL
through which recipients can access the Corresponding Source.


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for the JavaScript code in this tag.
*/
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<h1 class="title">org-mode content ready for conversion to html regarding `emacs for dummies' as per request of JR_IsP of INTPforum</h1>
<div id="table-of-contents">
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
<div id="text-table-of-contents">
<ul>
<li><a href="#sec-1">1. org-mode content ready for conversion to html regarding emacs for dummies as per request of JR<sub>IsP</sub> of INTPforum.org</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#sec-1-1">1.1. emacs for dummies duckduckgo search</a></li>
<li><a href="#sec-1-2">1.2. `emacs tutorial for beginners' hosted on/by Youtube</a></li>
<li><a href="#sec-1-3">1.3. [[elisp:()][emacs lisp code for converting the progenitor org-mode file into html anyone can run in their browser of choice</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</div>
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<h2 id="sec-1"><span class="section-number-2">1</span> org-mode content ready for conversion to html regarding <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=emacs+for+dummies&t=ffsb&ia=web">emacs for dummies</a> as per request of <a href="https://intpforum.com/member.php?u=14422">JR<sub>IsP</sub></a> of <a href="https://intpforum.com/">INTPforum.org</a></h2>
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</div><div id="outline-container-sec-1-1" class="outline-3">
<h3 id="sec-1-1"><span class="section-number-3">1.1</span> <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=emacs+for+dummies&t=ffsb&ia=web">emacs for dummies duckduckgo search</a></h3>
</div>

<div id="outline-container-sec-1-2" class="outline-3">
<h3 id="sec-1-2"><span class="section-number-3">1.2</span> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=emacs+tutorial+for+beginners">`emacs tutorial for beginers' hosted on/by Youtube</a></h3>
</div>

<div id="outline-container-sec-1-3" class="outline-3">
<h3 id="sec-1-3"><span class="section-number-3">1.3</span> [[elisp:()][emacs lisp code for convering the progenitor org-mode file into html anyone can run in their browser of choice</h3>
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<div id="postamble" class="status">
<p class="date">Created: 2017-11-04 Sat 13:35</p>
<p class="creator"><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/">Emacs</a> 25.3.1 (<a href="http://orgmode.org">Org</a> mode 8.2.10)</p>
<p class="validation"><a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer">Validate</a></p>
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</body>
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Update: As eww -- Emacs Web Wowser -- didn't produce good-enough results for browsing this site I began searching-for and experimenting-with other options.
The function `w3m-browse-url' did and does a much better job in my estimation.

For those who might like to try it:
From within GNU emacs, xemacs, or sxemacs
(1) tap <alt> x
In the lower left corner -- in the minibuffer -- you will noticed `M-x';
This is the prompt for a command.

(2) enter w3m-browse-url
The minibuffer will display the prompt `Emacs-w3m URL: '
Enter a valid URL, such as

(3) https://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=26744
The w3m buffer will display a rendering of this thread.

I hope this gets those experimenting with emacs up and browsing!
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Brave is the browser.
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