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 30th-September-2017, 01:10 PM #1 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC 8 puzzles I will score up the cumulative points of the first 10 or 15 posters who PM me their answers. No explanation required, all I need are ABCDE answers. Well you can provide your rationale if you really want. Whichever forum gets the most answers correct, wins the battle. There is a single logical, definite, and deductive answer to all 8 questions. None are up to subjective interpretation. You will know if your answer is right. Do not discuss answers or reasonings in this thread. INTPx thread
30th-September-2017, 01:16 PM   #2
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 30th-September-2017, 01:21 PM #3 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Who am I kidding, with all this P-ness, I'll be lucky to receive one PM.
 30th-September-2017, 01:37 PM #4 The Gopher President     Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,486 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC The logical move is to not play. I mean maybe we could send Blararan or Rook at it. They seem like the kind of people.... Hold up is using IXTJ's Cheating? Can we disqualify your entire forum? Haha sick burn calling people INTJ's how will they ever recover. *Glares at RB*
 30th-September-2017, 01:50 PM #5 redbaron fuck     Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: 38S 145E Posts: 6,208 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC look at this fucking intj lmao HAHAHA gopher beat me to it shucks __________________ They call me the man who isn't could not try to would it. But I would it.
30th-September-2017, 01:52 PM   #6
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Then like Buridan's Ass, you will starve.

 30th-September-2017, 02:08 PM #7 Serac Member     Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 492 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC All 8 of them are based on inductive thinking, not deductive logic. It's a cool idea though
 30th-September-2017, 02:13 PM #8 The Gopher President     Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,486 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Oh so we're going to argue about the test now are we? Yes lets, why are you hosting it anyway for all we know you're PM'ing the answers to INTPCompost! CONSPIRACY I SAY WHERE'S SINNY WHEN WE NEED HER?
30th-September-2017, 02:28 PM   #9
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 Originally Posted by Serac All 8 of them are based on inductive thinking, not deductive logic. It's a cool idea though
Nope, all deductive. There is only one right answer for each one.

30th-September-2017, 02:34 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by kalika Nope, all deductive. There is only one right answer for each one.
No, there isn't. As with any inductive problem, there are multiple solutions that fit the pattern.

All of them are aimed at generalizing patterns; inductive by definition.

30th-September-2017, 02:45 PM   #11
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 Originally Posted by Serac No, there isn't. As with any inductive problem, there are multiple solutions that fit the pattern. All of them are aimed at generalizing patterns; inductive by definition.
Honestly, none of them are aimed at generalising patterns. There is 100% no multiple solutions. PM me some of your answers, I want to know why you think it's inductive. If enough people do send answers or this dies out, I can send you the answers and why it is absolute and logical.

Take this random spatial puzzle I found off google:

The only logical deductive answer is c if you follow the progressions and conditions that dictate the positions of the line + red and blue squares. My puzzles are the same. Sure you can answer inductively and give more tenuous reasonings, but I am only looking for the logical answer in my puzzles.

 30th-September-2017, 03:35 PM #12 Serac Member     Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 492 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC We clealry disagree on what "deductive" means. What is the next number in this sequence: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 That has nothing to do with deduction. As with IQ tests, the problem is not to deduce the answer but guess what the creator of the test had in mind. If your answer was 7, you are wrong. The sequence is not (k) but (k modulo 7) so the next number is 0. Your "deductive" skills suck
 30th-September-2017, 03:38 PM #13 Hadoblado A girl on the internet     Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,608 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Oooh those look like some goodies @Serac I agree that it's inductive rather than deductive, though it's probably a bit nitpicky to ignore the teasers and instead split hairs. __________________ Spoiler: "Fire is magic, friendship is mere technology" ~ Void of Space "The advantages of being very precise even while not being very accurate" ~ Genitive Of Of "Don't you just love punctuating questions as you would statements in order to soft-claim certainty that elicits agreement" ~ Taint of Volition Unprincipled exceptions rule everything around me" ~ Content of Media
 30th-September-2017, 04:04 PM #14 Cognisant Condescending Bastard     Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 7,326 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I'll add it to my to-do list, I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually. Spoiler: "eventually" Spoiler: __________________ Deadlier, Sillier and more Perverted.
 30th-September-2017, 04:13 PM #15 Hadoblado A girl on the internet     Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,608 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I've got four solved thus far. Some of the ones I haven't got to yet look tricky af. Not sure, but they look like they may require some prior knowledge (especially 6). Is that the case? __________________ Spoiler: "Fire is magic, friendship is mere technology" ~ Void of Space "The advantages of being very precise even while not being very accurate" ~ Genitive Of Of "Don't you just love punctuating questions as you would statements in order to soft-claim certainty that elicits agreement" ~ Taint of Volition Unprincipled exceptions rule everything around me" ~ Content of Media
30th-September-2017, 08:58 PM   #16
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 Originally Posted by Serac We clealry disagree on what "deductive" means. What is the next number in this sequence: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 That has nothing to do with deduction. As with IQ tests, the problem is not to deduce the answer but guess what the creator of the test had in mind. If your answer was 7, you are wrong. The sequence is not (k) but (k modulo 7) so the next number is 0. Your "deductive" skills suck

After thinking about it, I think you're right, actually. They are inductive puzzles. Thanks for correcting me, I learnt something new.

Edit: Utisz from the superior forum says it's abductive reasoning?

30th-September-2017, 09:00 PM   #17
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 Originally Posted by Hadoblado I've got four solved thus far. Some of the ones I haven't got to yet look tricky af. Not sure, but they look like they may require some prior knowledge (especially 6). Is that the case?

5 & 6 both require prior knowledge, but the rest don't! The clue for 6 is: music!

 30th-September-2017, 09:09 PM #18 TransientMoment _ _ , - _ , _ -     Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 55 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I AM A SHAMEFUL RULE BREAKER __________________ ŘΦしng-plz Last edited by Hadoblado; 1st-October-2017 at 01:34 AM. Reason: I hope? I didn't want to verify that you were cheating because I didn't want the answers spoiled.
 30th-September-2017, 09:12 PM #19 Jennywocky Large tracts of fivehead     Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Charn Posts: 10,297 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC God, now I have to either go outside and paint my shed that I'm four weeks behind on finishing before winter buries me in snow, or I can sit here online and do brain teasers to fight a virtual war that will leave only mental anguish and pervasive self-doubt to cripple the losers. Life is full of tough choices. .... actually, I could just eat another chocolate chip cookie. __________________ ... My toast is dark and full of terrors.
 30th-September-2017, 09:17 PM #20 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Dude TM delete your answers, just PM me the answers instead of sharing it...... Do it in the spirit of the game...
 30th-September-2017, 09:17 PM #21 Haim Member     Join Date: May 2015 Location: Israel Posts: 627 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC For 1-8 the answer is fuck off. I will find my own problems that have an actual relationship to practical life(or just fun)
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 Originally Posted by kalika Dude TM delete your answers, just PM me the answers instead of sharing it...... Do it in the spirit of the game...
But if I do, it'll drive nuts some poor thinker several years from now who stumbles upon this thread in the Wayback Machine and wants to know the answer! Haven't you ever felt this way??
https://xkcd.com/979/
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30th-September-2017, 09:23 PM   #23
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 Originally Posted by TransientMoment But if I do, it'll drive nuts some poor thinker several years from now who stumbles upon this thread in the Wayback Machine and wants to know the answer! Haven't you ever felt this way?? https://xkcd.com/979/
Boy have I, but c'mon. I'll post the answers and reasoning in due time, for all strangers to see.

 30th-September-2017, 09:30 PM #24 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC By the way, you got 3/8.
30th-September-2017, 09:34 PM   #25
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 Originally Posted by kalika By the way, you got 3/8.
That was just mean.

.... I have four of them done, I'll send them to you once I finish the other four I skipped.
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30th-September-2017, 09:40 PM   #26
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 Originally Posted by Jennywocky That was just mean. .... I have four of them done, I'll send them to you once I finish the other four I skipped.
Cool. By the way, good to see you again.

1st-October-2017, 01:44 AM   #27
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Edited TM's post. Please respect the wishes of the OP. If you have doubts, ask, or reread the OP where it clearly states:

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1st-October-2017, 02:02 AM   #28
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 Originally Posted by kalika Cool. By the way, good to see you again.
good to see you too, even garbed up in that stupid rabbit suit.

.... sigh. I just have #2 left, but I have no freaking idea. What's the deadline?
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 1st-October-2017, 02:36 AM #29 Hadoblado A girl on the internet     Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,608 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I've down to #6 and #7. I don't think I'll get #6 since I know nothing about music and nothing looks familiar (I knew nothing about #5 either, but managed to glean enough out of the numbers to google the info I needed). #7 seems tricky. Not sure whether I'm taking the right approach, but have only glanced at it. There's some ambiguity to the lay-out that has me feeling too demotivated to commit. __________________ Spoiler: "Fire is magic, friendship is mere technology" ~ Void of Space "The advantages of being very precise even while not being very accurate" ~ Genitive Of Of "Don't you just love punctuating questions as you would statements in order to soft-claim certainty that elicits agreement" ~ Taint of Volition Unprincipled exceptions rule everything around me" ~ Content of Media
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 Originally Posted by Hadoblado I've down to #6 and #7. I don't think I'll get #6 since I know nothing about music and nothing looks familiar (I knew nothing about #5 either, but managed to glean enough out of the numbers to google the info I needed). #7 seems tricky. Not sure whether I'm taking the right approach, but have only glanced at it. There's some ambiguity to the lay-out that has me feeling too demotivated to commit.
Heh. I would like badly to comment on both of these but we're not supposed to cheat at WAR.
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 1st-October-2017, 03:54 AM #31 The Gopher President     Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,486 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC All's fair in love and war.
 1st-October-2017, 03:55 AM #32 Pyropyro Magos Biologis     Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Philippines Posts: 3,711 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Logic is for losers. I demand trial by wombat. __________________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw
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Okay, I'd rather cheat at love then.
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 1st-October-2017, 04:00 AM #34 Reluctantly Resident disMember     Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,090 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Did Gopher kill all the contestants yet?
 1st-October-2017, 10:54 AM #35 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Not counting TM's, I just got some submissions in my inbox. Fuck me you guys are good. Submissions received so far: INTPf: 3 INTPx: 2
 1st-October-2017, 04:41 PM #36 Haim Member     Join Date: May 2015 Location: Israel Posts: 627 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Kalika wrong answer, only the best of the forum sent you answers, any decent person would have seen it.
 1st-October-2017, 11:14 PM #37 crippli disturbed   Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,641 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I hope you have an algorithm to check if it's the same person who sent in the answers.
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 Originally Posted by kalika By the way, you got 3/8.
lol. I reject that. XD As this is a deductive reasoning test, I felt free to answer with the pattern-identification that pleased me best.
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 4th-October-2017, 01:47 AM #39 Hadoblado A girl on the internet     Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,608 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Man the definition of 'deductive reasoning' has been on a truly wild ride from start to finish. __________________ Spoiler: "Fire is magic, friendship is mere technology" ~ Void of Space "The advantages of being very precise even while not being very accurate" ~ Genitive Of Of "Don't you just love punctuating questions as you would statements in order to soft-claim certainty that elicits agreement" ~ Taint of Volition Unprincipled exceptions rule everything around me" ~ Content of Media
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 Originally Posted by kalika Take this random spatial puzzle I found off google: The only logical deductive answer is c if you follow the progressions and conditions that dictate the positions of the line + red and blue squares. My puzzles are the same. Sure you can answer inductively and give more tenuous reasonings, but I am only looking for the logical answer in my puzzles.
This problem is easy af.

As much as I would like to give a shot at the problems, I can't justify it because I would be repping both sites.

 4th-October-2017, 06:18 AM #41 Polaris Is actually insane   Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: the Rong place Posts: 1,851 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC These kinds of tests should be called: "how good are you at making assumptions and jumping the hoops based on previous brainwash?" We’ll reward you with a score, dawg. It just makes me question what ‘logic’ really means to most people. Woof woof.
 12th-October-2017, 02:50 AM #42 kalika Redshirt     Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 17 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Not enough submissions to score up. Congrats to Charde for the top score. Here are answers for the future lurkers. https://i.imgur.com/85mM8LL.jpg (last answer is supposed to say "left ball" instead of "right ball" - can't be arsed re-photoshopping it)
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 Not enough submissions to score up. Congrats to Charde for the top score.
Yay me

(she used my other forum name)

damn. Now that I see the answer to #2, I should have gotten that one.
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 12th-October-2017, 06:01 AM #44 Hadoblado A girl on the internet     Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,608 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Yeah I feel silly not having got #7 now. No way I would ever get #6 though. __________________ Spoiler: "Fire is magic, friendship is mere technology" ~ Void of Space "The advantages of being very precise even while not being very accurate" ~ Genitive Of Of "Don't you just love punctuating questions as you would statements in order to soft-claim certainty that elicits agreement" ~ Taint of Volition Unprincipled exceptions rule everything around me" ~ Content of Media
13th-October-2017, 06:22 PM   #45
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 Originally Posted by Hadoblado Yeah I feel silly not having got #7 now. No way I would ever get #6 though.
Don't feel bad -- I got hung up Googling the Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the longest time.
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 13th-October-2017, 07:57 PM #46 Animekitty exceptional ENFP     Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: held in loving arms Posts: 4,302 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC Just did the test. Hope I get some right. __________________ Check Spoiler Spoiler: Quote:
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The contest is over, that's why the answers were posted earlier in the thread.

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 13th-October-2017, 11:38 PM #48 Animekitty exceptional ENFP     Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: held in loving arms Posts: 4,302 Re: INTPf vs. INTPx // First Battle - A BATTLE OF LOGIC I got 4 right. Spoiler: 1. A. no 2. E no 3. A no 4. E yes 5. A yes 6. B yes 7. A no 8. C yes __________________ Check Spoiler Spoiler: Quote:
14th-October-2017, 01:43 AM   #49
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 Originally Posted by Animekitty I got 4 right. Spoiler: 1. A. no 2. E no 3. A no 4. E yes 5. A yes 6. B yes 7. A no 8. C yes
You got #6, hahaha! That rocks.

Most people had trouble with 2, 6, and 7, I think....
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