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    Guys, how to know for sure if a (female) INFJ is interested ?

    You make some good points, however aren't you logically supposed to make some sort of compliment (even if indeed its very unlikely it is the first one this female is hearing...) and THEN, depending on her reaction, ask for a date, not the other way around ? As for a demonstration of...
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    Guys, how to know for sure if a (female) INFJ is interested ?

    Well this is an elaborate guess based on her behaviour and things she said and the way she said them and compared to another INFJ (my teacher of psychoanalysis, even though he was male). Of course i could well be wrong. Sadly i can't just drop by the bank as it is a tiny branch and all visits...
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    Guys, how to know for sure if a (female) INFJ is interested ?

    Thank you for all the answers... Sadly i am just as shy, it takes me a long time to know someone enough to open up, even with the people i work with... That was my plan : telling her exactly what i felt and why, so if she was telling me she wasn't interested i would have forgotten about her...
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    Guys, how to know for sure if a (female) INFJ is interested ?

    Male INTP here... I have met this woman twice (strictly for business), the first time was 3 months ago ; i thought she was absolutely gorgeous and had a great personality (funny / witty, extremely intelligent etc. it had been a long time a woman hadn't stroke the right cord in me !), and i had...
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    The spontaneity paradox

    Love this thread and everyone's answers / thoughts : you all brilliantly expressed in words things that had been in my head for a while. I wonder if as we, INTPs, get older and grow wiser we don't tend to lose our (unconscious) spontaneity (i.e tactical thinking) dating from our youth and...
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    INTJ observations

    Your idea of losing the debate being in fact the real win for a (mature) INTP since he is being changed as a result, is very very interesting and i have been thinking deeply about it since i read you last night ! I would add that Judgers move from cause to effect, hence the reason why they are...
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    INTP: Intellectual rednecks?

    I hanged out with "low lifes" most of my life. Also i have always been sexually attracted to "low life" girls, you know the type who wear short skirts and just looks naughty / up for anything... Now, i know better... I stay way from low lifes AND fake people but i do see what you mean, because...
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    INTP with possible ISTJ Parent

    I couldn't agree more, in fact before you said the part in bold characters, that's exactly what i wanted to add / say. The counterbalancing parent is meant to block the absolutistic tendendy of the one parent, and vice versa, just like the pairs of jungian functions. My mum was a very strong...
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    INTP approaches to money management/ bookkeeping/ accounting/ taxes tasks

    Hire an ISTJ to keep your books and do all your accounting / tax work for you.
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    Predictability as INTP

    In any situation i currently am or will / could be related to i always imagine (NOT predict) the worst possibility, then i start panicking / stressing about it just like it will happen beyond reasonable doubt (i just can't help it !) which in turn forces me to make immediate changes in a way...
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    Typological basis of greed?

    My mum also was an ISTJ and yes she was a hoarder too ! She passed away 3 months ago and now my dad and I have the whole house to "empty" and that's going to take a loooong time and a lot of effort. And she was the same as your dad too: when there was a good deal she would get it even though she...
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    what is the purpose of Ti

    Ti is there to find "shortcuts" (universal statements) / detecting potential flaws in any system (living or non-living) with the least possible effort ; it is what make INTPs so good at exploiting flaws (negative approach) or to make that system better and more resistant (positive approach). Ti...
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    Typological basis of greed?

    Totally right ! I'm 42 and my tertiary Si has now been extremely well integrated and i am now very reluctant when getting stuff (mainly because i used to get stuff all the time when younger and Si is there to remind me that all in all it didn't make me any happier, on the contrary !). Si is...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    But there are defined abstract categories people agree with... Otherwise, scientists, psychoanalysts, philosophers etc. wouldn't understand each others.' concepts and theories (categories are the building bocks of). I guess when they don't agree, it is because they use other categories and quite...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    Other logical possibility / explanation: maybe they are both INTPs but that's you who aren't one ?
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    Abstration is no problem for us INTPs; the more abstract (/ analyzed) something is, the easier to understand / digest / integrate i find since it means being reduced to categories (we can then start to -re-build / synthetise from).
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    On the contrary, I found Soros writing straight to the point: says in a sentence what others would say in a paragraph. Here is a great article he wrote, it sums up a lot of things: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/0ca06172-bfe9-11de-aed2-00144feab49a.html#axzz3Nz0oOc5J I really like that...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    Is it really what an ENTP sounds like ? Very much doubt so. The guy has no charisma in talking whatsoever, he obviously doesn't like talking in public hence why he has to have a script already prepared, and yet he sounds like it is someone else who wrote it for him ! He said in the book he only...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    it is relevant; i said he used knoweldge he learnt from previous experience / phase of development: isn't it how we work. Nothing is discarded, everything from the past is integrated into present ? Have you heard him talk in front of an audience ? He has to read speeches (he wrote) and sounds...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    George Soros' perfect introverted Sensing ? "It is much easier to put existing resources to better use, than to develop resources where they do not exist." "I'm only rich because I know when I'm wrong...I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes." "I very often used to get...
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    The Challenge of Integrating Si with Ti & Ne

    http://personalitygrowth.com/introverted-sensing-si/
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    Strong Fe

    Sadly, i agree. :-)
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    I do think that like most of us in our own field of "expertise" (whatever it may be), George Soros found the right niche, at the right time, and used the indirect knoweldge he had gained during a previous phase of his own development (he learnt philosophy at the London School of Economics, and...
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    George Soros (INTP's Intuition and Theory)

    I have been reading "SOROS ON SOROS: BEING AHEAD OF THE CURVE"... A very easy to read book as it is designed as an interview. Here are some extracts below i found very interesting for everyone to read as i thought he expresses just perfectly how INTP's cognition works in approaching...
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    Strong Fe

    How old are you ? If you are under 30, then i think it is pretty normal. The tertiary function (Si, for us INTPs) starts manifesting in your 30s, at age 40 it should be fully implemented all being well in your own psychic development (no fixation for whatever reasons). The 4th function (Fe, for...
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    The Challenge of Integrating Si with Ti & Ne

    I found out the same about Si. Si is what eventually saved me from the self destructing Ne-Fe path i had been used to for many years. I taught me how essential REPETITION, routine, structure and attention to details are in order to tame Ne and make the most of it. I think the 3rd function (Si...
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    Putting stuff on shelves and tertiary function...

    Hello, i have just found a job as shop assistant in a small supermarket, i love it not because of the money (its nothing great but money is not a problem for me anyway as i have plenty enough savings left from my old company) but the stress equals nearly zero, the people i work with are nice and...
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    The illusion of consciousness

    Isn't it anyway what we, as a species, are evolving into thru technology especially with the coming of the "Singularity" ? A collective consciousness / hive mind encompassing the universe... In Judaism, there once used to be only ONE soul that shattered into a multiplicity of pieces /...
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    Is this the workings of Si?

    Even the auxiliary (Ne) is a pain in the ass to shut down just like Ti and Fe, we especially notice it whenever we are worried and we are bombarded with paranoid idea making it virtually impossible to fall asleep for example... Of course Ne provides us with very possible scenario at times even...
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    Is this the workings of Si?

    You are totally right ! That's indeed the only function we are not totally submitted to. Don't you think however that the tertiary function is basically what Jung called the "Transcendent Function" i.e the temporary / potential link or bridge between the conscious and the unconscious ?
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    Tertiary Function

    Will power ? Start meditation pal !! After i listened to David Lynch (INFP) talking about meditation so so passionately, i learnt meditation and my whole life changed (for the better) ever since ! And i don't need any Si users around me to help me out (however i still pick practical things...
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    New to forum: Abstract Reasoning

    Abstractions... Do you mean algorithms ?
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    Tertiary Function

    I found when i can't really make out where one ends / begins it's because i am stuck into some depressive / regressive Ti-Si loop over-analyzing the past as at that time i don't have access to NEW data / information / experience / ideas etc. so i keep on neurotocally analyzing what i already...
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    Tertiary Function

    My tertiary function truly saved my life when my Ne and Fe would still have me stuck in the same crazy / self-destructing paths ! Si is like having constant reminders of what went wrong last time i went on the same or similar paths ! Si permits us to learn from experience while Ne and Fe would...
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    My mum is dieing, i'd like some advices from other INTPs

    Hello ! My mum is 68 and is dieing of cancer (its the 5th time in 8 years but this time it is terminal), im her only child and she will also leaver behind my dad and her own 87years old mother. The way she is right now (shes currently at the hospital), she could be gone within weeks, im not...
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    Are you ever TOO aware of your own presence?

    Are your "symptoms" similar to mine ? http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=19413
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    a possibility as to why intps have a hard time waking up more so than other types?

    I have ZERO problem waking up unless i am depressed and therefore torn apart by psychic energy consuming ego defense mechanisms ! I doubt waking up is a problem for INTPs ! If you have interesting things to do one should be in perfect mood to wake up. If not, if you have obligations to attend...
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    " Thinking withdrawal " ?

    Does anyone ever experience what (i think ?) may be best explained as "thinking withdrawal" (or maybe is it intuition withdrawal, i dunno ?) after you have been (over)thinking for several weeks ? What i have been experiencing is some sort of "void" or maybe some sort of "echo consciousness" ...
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    P-erceivers / J-udgers and first part / second part of Life

    Well maybe they are J's who unknowingly / unconsciously went on the other side of the Force and turned P's and manage to control others indirectly then ! :-) (The same way i had to adapt and behave reactively as a J for most of the 1st part of my life... And then finally came to my senses / very...
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    Are Ti-doms (IxTPs) likely to give unsolicited advice?

    How do you guys react / behave when you spot contradictions in your loved ones life / health and let them know (with compassionate / carefully selected words because of Fe !) what could happen if they keep up the way they do ? Do you get angry when they don't take notice because they are in self...
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    P-erceivers / J-udgers and first part / second part of Life

    If J's are naturally skilled / gifted to succeed in the first part of life with getting shit done, aren't P's best skilled /gifted for life's second part as we know how to let go and letting others do shit (for us), and basically exploiting the cracks of the same system who fucked us over in our...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    Lucky you, i guess you watched a lot of his 1 hour+ videos eh... You should write books or teach, certainly not hover around on internet message boards you know... The world is waiting for you... What was it you said ? Egocentric ? The problem with immature / negative INTPs is they have very...
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    Life Tricks of the INTP

    Please do so...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    Thats YOUR opinion... I does take me about 20 hours to listen / relisten / pausing countless times / take notes / rewrite notes / ponder / reponder each one of his 80min talks... If you dont do it, maybe then you cant grasp him indeed ! You know what it's like, we tend to be rebuffed by the...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    I am exactly the same as you: 1-Until i write my thoughts i am only conscious / aware of a tiny portion if them: its like they are compressed and i have a very very general abstract idea of them, until i write them (or speak them, to a lesser degree) and then they uncompress ! It is like my...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    Good point here ! His talks are a total mess and my Ti does have to work overtime indeed in order not to give up altogether and penetrate all his "empty verbiage" (sex jokes etc.) to find what i need from them, its very much worth it though ! Also, in one of his talks, in a sentence he said...
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    Life Tricks of the INTP

    I think philosophy posits great logical / ethical axioms and principles (do's and dont do's) to base everything else upon... Thats why Stoics in ancient times used to read / reread / write / rewrite short efficient sentences so that they could remember them at the appropriate times of need...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    What is funny is the fact he said he'd rather write than talk... Then even when he writes a book, he realizes afterwards he could have done a much better job and forgot to mention plenty of things so he ends up writing a new book; thats how his latest book on Hegel / Dialectical Materialism (i...
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    Developing Ti - Ti Activities

    Do you man the basic difference between Te and Ti is respectively the "HOW" and "WHY"... Which one came first ? Te or Ti ? I would say Te; Te constructs concrete stuff and Ti comes along and thru abstraction, deconstructs (and reconstructs) the concrete stuff...
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    ZLAVOJ ZIZEK - Is he an ENTP or INTP ?

    Is he an INTP or ENTP ? I had been thinking hes ENTP as his use of Ne is just purely amazing (his videos on Youtube and his books are entire databanks to explode any Ne dominant mind !!!)... However he's extremely chaotic in the way he expresses himself verbally (i have to pause and repause...
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