@The Grey Man
I'm not arguing that conscious beings exist because we exist. Rather, I'm pointing out that, as conscious beings, we must be in a universe that allows for consciousness to exist. This is a statement about the necessary conditions for our existence, not a proof of our existence...
Why would it be impossible for life to come from non-life? What aspect of reality makes that impossible? To me it just seems like a case of emergent properties.
You could just as easily claim that chemistry can't arise from atomic theory.
Occam's Razor is about axioms/concepts, not things/objects.
A simple theory that results in multiple universes is more parsimonious than a complex theory that results in one universe.
Just thought I would throw that out there as many seem to mistake the point of Occam's Razor.
I know my views are not the norm. Even when I can explain them in a rational/logical way I still face resistance. But that is okay as well. It's all part of vulontarism. Who am I (or anyone) to tell others what is best?
How can a group of people gives rights they do not themselves posses...
@Cognisant
This isn't some beleif of the masses only. It is a respected philosophical question that many atheists claim is one of the hardest issues to contend with.
@The Grey Man
I don't think you get the point that myself and dr froyd are making. Can there exist consciousness in a universe that doesn't allow for consciousness to exist? Obviously not. Therefore we (a conscious entity) must by definition be in a universe that DOES allow for consciousness...
I just don't get it. Why is it considered such a compelling argument/question? Am I missing some profound insight into reality that philosophers are privy to? As it stands it seems like such a shallow issue.
The Weak Anthropic Principle would seem to make any inquiry into the issue...
As I have gotten older I've adopted a more 'voluntarist' approach to life. Which leaves me in a tight spot when it comes to questions of governance. If only I was willing to abandon my principles for necessity's sake. Instead, I just live life feeling constantly trapped in a cage I was born in.
My google-fu is failing me.
Has there ever been a case of an adult failing to pass the mirror test? I don't see how they could function in society but people are able to function without an inner voice or a minds eye so what do I know?
If humanity manages to colonise other worlds I don't believe it will ever become extinct. Though wait long enough and the descendants won't be human (though I'm not sure that counts).
If humanity remains stuck on Earth then I think it would require a truly global cataclsym of some sort to...
Would it be fair to state that computation is substrate independent?
If such is the case would it be possible for a group of humans to pretend to be circuit components and thus 'simulate' a computational system that could run programs.
Taking this further, could a computational/programming...
I have always had this tendency and recently I began to wonder if other INTPs also deal with a similar thing.
If you tell me to do something (even if it is for my benefit) I won't.
If you tell me not to do something I will.
I used to think I was just being contrary, but it goes deeper than...
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