• OK, it's on.
  • Please note that many, many Email Addresses used for spam, are not accepted at registration. Select a respectable Free email.
  • See https://www.intpforum.com/threads/upgrade-at-10-am-gmt.27631/

Would Einstein have smoked weed?

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
"There's little indication as to whether he would have tried it or not"

Would he have tried it at least once? If anything, he was a frequent smoker of pipes but once made a bet and stopped smoking for a couple months or so.

I think maybe he would have tried it once, found it interesting. But he probably wouldn't have made a habit out of it and would not have been an advocate of it due to any side effects or inhibitory actions
 

Analyzer

Hide thy life
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Aug 23, 2012
Messages
1,241
Location
West
Why is the question framed as "would" instead of "did"? Surely weed has been around long before Einstein.
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
Oh, thanks for catching that. Well we all know weed has been around for a while and that Einstein isn't particularly well known for having smoked it. I'm not sure how abundant is was in the places he was at. Say, nowadays that it's less stigmatized and more readily available, would he have gotten involved? It's a different type of question, sort of focusing more on his probable type. But either way, really
 

Absurdity

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jul 22, 2012
Messages
2,359
Yeah bro

[bimgx=500]http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/1a/28/05/1a2805e7724cabf7bdc40ec04d6acbce.jpg[/bimgx]
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
that means intps are susceptible to smoking weeds
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
Not saying I'm intp, but when growing up I was drug & alcohol free. And I thought smoking was dumb and useless but perhaps it was inevitable? Considering other potential causal factors. Harold & Kumar was one of my favorite comedies when I still hadn't even smoked. So I can see a fair amount of intps not being into marijuanas. However, if they were to be exposed is somewhat of another story.
 

Hadoblado

think again losers
Local time
Tomorrow, 03:40
Joined
Mar 17, 2011
Messages
5,469
Both my parents were drug dealers. I still don't smoke (perhaps one a year when I've been drinking heavily).

There are however, many INTP's that do smoke. See?

Trying to make any sort of argument about correlations from a sample of one exceptional character does not an accurate view of reality make.
 

Nick

Frozen Fighter
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
Jan 7, 2013
Messages
347
Location
Isles of Long
how else would you explain the marriage of space and time?
 

OrLevitate

Banned
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Apr 10, 2014
Messages
784
Location
I'm intrinsically luminous, mortals. I'm 4ever
"There's little indication as to whether he would have tried it or not"

Would he have tried it at least once? If anything, he was a frequent smoker of pipes but once made a bet and stopped smoking for a couple months or so.

I think maybe he would have tried it once, found it interesting. But he probably wouldn't have made a habit out of it and would not have been an advocate of it due to any side effects or inhibitory actions
Yeah bro

[bimgx=500]http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/1a/28/05/1a2805e7724cabf7bdc40ec04d6acbce.jpg[/bimgx]
that means intps are susceptible to smoking weeds
Stop posting fluff.





haha.
I think a more precise verbalization of your question is "What is the most [insert adjective(s) of what Einstein represents to you] opinion on w33d?
 

nil

drifting
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
May 31, 2010
Messages
2,032
Location
within the vast universe
I personally say, if you are ever given the option, why not try it once? It's (mostly) harmless to smoke every now and then, and you may end up actually liking it. Drugs in general certainly have the ability to expand consciousness and perception if utilised properly.

EDIT: Is there even consensus that Einstein is INTP? The popular conceptions paint him as more of an ENTP to me, though I must admit I have not actively looked into the topic.
 

Ixoziel

Member
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Messages
30
I've taken just about everything under the sun. Anything that alters my conciousness is usually entertaining, and enough to relieve my boredom for a short time.

INTPs are logical, and evidence indicates that most drugs leave no permanent brain damage. Thus, what would be the harm in trying them? I guess it depends on how risk-averse you are.
 

Nick

Frozen Fighter
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
Jan 7, 2013
Messages
347
Location
Isles of Long
most bitches are pussies.
 
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Messages
142
Location
Canada, eh?
He might have. Maybe he would try it, look at it as a new experience and possible way to alter his perception. Maybe he would have taken offense that he needs any sort of drug to allow him to think differently. Who knows?

INTPs I think, are probably susceptible to trying drugs, as has been said. I imagine our mindset on it would be: why not? If we like it, we like it. If we don't, we don't. End of story.

I'm sort of agnostic about marijuana, myself. It just makes me very quiet, and I retreat into my head. Sometimes that's enjoyable, the chance to just sit around and think. Sometimes it just gives me bad anxiety and makes me uncomfortable with the world.

:confused:
 

WALKYRIA

Active Member
Local time
Today, 19:10
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
492
My mind is seriously too crazy allready to take that bullshit... I'm happy with my own mind allready.(less with age, but still don't need that shit..).
I don't think he would have smoked; the sole act on depending on some sort of mind-altering drugs is an act of weakness to me; same with alcool(basically that's the same as weed, except it's more socially accepted) or tobacco. Seek independence in all the ways possible.
 

WALKYRIA

Active Member
Local time
Today, 19:10
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
492
INTPs are logical, and evidence indicates that most drugs leave no permanent brain damage. Thus, what would be the harm in trying them? I guess it depends on how risk-averse you are.
I'll add though that early weed smoking is somehow associated with Schizophrenia( especially in predisposed people= NPs) ... just saying.
 

Nick

Frozen Fighter
Local time
Today, 14:10
Joined
Jan 7, 2013
Messages
347
Location
Isles of Long
WALKYRIA: What do you think about waiting until 25.
 

Reluctantly

Resident disMember
Local time
Today, 08:10
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
3,138
I'll add though that early weed smoking is somehow associated with Schizophrenia( especially in predisposed people= NPs) ... just saying.
Weed is a pretty harmless drug though. It usually only causes such problems when it's used in excess, but that could be said about anything. Though maybe schizophrenia is a little more serious than getting a stomach ache and diarrhea.
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
^^ Well he smoked tobacco.

And, reportedly, only like 2 out of 1000 at risk individuals would get schizophrenic after abuse. There's some link between dormant schizos being more likely to get involved with weeds. And even then it's largely dopaminergic, supposedly actual schizos have excess dopamine & marijuana active ingredients can act as dopamine agonists.. Some people would describe the more harmful effects as a particular marijuana psychosis, which some folk would be prone to

But I'm sure weed does a lot of situational things. My biggest one was not being able to remember dreams as well as one would hope, or at all, but it seems with tolerance build up this issue can at least be somewhat remedied, as the presence of no metabolites would obviously be more ideal. Also would probably depend on the time of the day one got stoned. And some people claim smoking makes their dreams more intense while others say they smoke to not have nightmares anymore.

Recreational smoking MIGHT be more on the pointless side, although there are apparently quite a few people who actually do need and use it as medicine, for pain relief; etc

Does anyone know anything about possible relations between schizophrenia and N?
 

Cherry Cola

Banned
Local time
Today, 19:10
Joined
Mar 17, 2013
Messages
3,899
Location
stockholm
Shizophrenia is likely a bunch of different diseases with different causes bundled up because they share symptoms. I suppose if intuition correlates with neuroticism then there should be some sort of correlation between intuition and Schizophrenia as well, I dunno.
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
Shizophrenia is likely a bunch of different diseases with different causes bundled up because they share symptoms. I suppose if intuition correlates with neuroticism then there should be some sort of correlation between intuition and Schizophrenia as well, I dunno.
Schizophrenia had still been being studied and as far as they concluded there were a few different kinds with causes ranging from genetic to environmental. Whether it takes an event to release while it lay dormant or just gradually develops with age in certain persons is what psychologists and sociologists are trying to figure out. INFJ are known for being social or "classy", but they can also come off as mental, I suppose. It's said that drug use of amphetamines or cocaine can cause psychotic symptoms or induce long term psychosis in those who may be predisposed towards it.
 

Pizzabeak

Prolific Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jan 24, 2012
Messages
2,525
Would Einstein have eaten pizza? He would be dum not to.
Well it's certainly been around since his time. He could have tried it a few times although there's no information it was his favorite, or anything.
 

JansenDowel

Active Member
Local time
Tomorrow, 06:10
Joined
Sep 7, 2014
Messages
203
Location
New Zealand
He may have tried it once or twice. But weed does not 'enhance' ones ability to reason efficiently. All it does is slow everything down and make you dopey.

Weed makes you so dopey.
 

ZenRaiden

One atom of me
Local time
Today, 19:10
Joined
Jul 27, 2013
Messages
534
Location
Between concrete walls
I am more betting on the speculation that he tried hard drugs. Back then in his social circles it would be probably more common than weed. That said if you do drugs you cant do much physics. I mean even if he tried drugs he got his theories down pretty young so he was pretty well disciplined guy and probably also very focused.

Some people do drugs and can function, but honestly I think that is more of a balance skill. Many though cant deal with drug use effectively and end up addicts.
 

lightfire

._.
Local time
Today, 13:10
Joined
Dec 24, 2018
Messages
327
Stop comparing yourselves with Einstein as a reason to do drugs.

Sure do all the hard drugs you want to, you're just affecting your life and future.

None of you are Einstein, just because you tested as INTP and Einstein is INTP, and I am so addicted so Einstein must have been a bad boi too, therefore justifying my melted brain. Backwards logic.

Get over yourselves.
 

moody

Active Member
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Dec 15, 2018
Messages
121
Smart and stupid people do drugs. One of the things they (or we) have in common.
On that note: There are theories that psychedelics played a large role in shaping our society and our social relations. It's pretty interesting, and actually makes a lot of sense.

"Unifying Theories of Psychedelic drug effects:"

"Psychedelic drug use in healthy individuals..."
 

lightfire

._.
Local time
Today, 13:10
Joined
Dec 24, 2018
Messages
327
Ah yes, here come the devils advocates. "well actually * insert article here * "

Let's all get trashed and high, and post articles about how there are antioxidants in red wine so its actually kind of healthy.

Don't be pretentious fools and advocate irresponsibility.

Impressed with Einstein? then open a physics book.
 

Jcolenda612

Redshirt
Local time
Today, 11:10
Joined
Jul 8, 2019
Messages
1
I think he would have done psychedelics mushrooms before he smoked weed.. He would have had some killer revelations with those
 

mr_darker

Redshirt
Local time
Today, 13:10
Joined
May 8, 2018
Messages
17
Im INTP or INTJ, havent gotten around to pinning it down yet.

Never smoked or drank all through most of high school, was sorta like a status of being able to say I'm straight edge. Then came one day where something extremely bad happened, and I was just depressed day after day. My best friend was a stoner, I'd be the guy looking up how to safely make explosives without dying (chemistry, was bored of fireworks). Also actually got into electronics engineering that im still into, because i decided i knew enough and needed to start working on a way to set things off safely and cheaply. All tutorials online were poor quality so i set out to learn to build my own encrypted mission critical transciever, having no real advanced electronics knowledge at the time lol. Now know how yo build computers n shit, but,due to depression and anxiety,AND not going through college, cant get a job outta it lol. Anyways, point is tho, very different from my stoner friend, hed try and push stuff on me since the dawn of time. Straight edge me, stoner him, sciencey me, failed math foundations twice him. And that depressed period in my moms attic he pulls a big bottle of wine off the top of my moms fridge thats been there forever lol, obviously going to be missing. Figure screw it,i dont wanna think today, tried to get drunk on wine lol. Just nasty did nothing. But that broke my straight edge status, and after that, didnt care, bring on the cocaine n hookers. Did try a few more times to get drunk outtacuriosity. 8th of a bottle of vodka, not enough, even 12 shots on his birthday nope, although i did walk home buzzed. Wasnt til a year later on MY birthday that he and some junkie thats cheated me but im still nice to because why not lol, finally get drunk and my friend was just the happiest person in the world. I was hanging on doors and swinging on them, I remember at one point being in the rafters of the garage waiting to pounce down lmao. Rolling in the streets, we walked around town that night, wake up, my keys are gone. I have like a 2 pound keyring so that my keys DONT get gone. Beltloop ripped. So i wake up to the (joking) news that the landlord called the cops because the yard was trashed/vandalized (we mighta taken some political campaign signs n left em there lol). and checkfor my keys see the broken beltloop like howd that happen. Go driving all around town looking for my keys (girlfriends car). Finally find em just outside my house they got caught on the fence and i didnt notice lol. But then came experimentation with alcohol and its abikity to help me socialize (i have severe social anxiety disorder), and a time i quit drinking when my body was going numb,finally satisfied knowing im probably drunk and it still does shit for my ability to be social (proba ly a good thing). I'm against alcohol morally n stuff, only recently have I ever started to understand why people do it instead if pot or something.
Then came 2018, the year i finally got discharged outta the military (showed interest in high school at a stand, wanted a backpack n stuff, was too shy to say no when he started messaging me lolol, 8 year contract). So I was free to try pot finally. Best bro is playing phill collins as thats an inside joke that i look like him apparently. Get high/stoned for the first time and wow was it different than i was imagining. Body felt lime i was on fire, insides felt like dying, wanted it to be over. but aside from that it was really unique like my conciousness, and my body were delayed, i was having trouble just sitting there still, so my head was moving around in little circles a bit, and my head would move normally, but my "conciousness" would "teleport" all around my head, with like a refresh rate of 2Hz, as a separate entity. I remember starig at my friends stoned face, just the biggest "you like crabby patties dont you squidward" face except hes all the way across the room and his face is zoomed in and all i see is a portion of his face up close taking up my whole field of view. Then suddenly it switches to me looking at my own stoned smile from an outside view. Thinking back on this i always thought it was my reflection in my phone but i probably had a camera app open lol, to explain his face zooming in like that. Didnt wanna be awake was a bjt intense not expected, so im laying there glued to the bed, arms n body so heavy and limp, staring at the cieling tiles and their patterns. Any time i closed my eyes id enter a virtual mental world based off of what im looking at or thinking of prior, it sucked too like blink too slow and youre gone in another world. Entered a world made of cieling tile gridlines. Finally comes time to take me home, im blinking as rapidly as i can to try and stay mentally present with him, apparently i had my arms clenched to my body and was rockig back n forth lmao. Finally get home, try to shower, not sure if i spent like 10 seconds or 10 minutes washing my hair because eyes closed and bam was jn another world for a while. (funny story, another time at my girlfriend's house, spent 10 minutes slowly falling to the floor, panicking about it xD, was told it was like 10 minutes, felt way shorter to me). Between then and getting to bed the only significant thing was entering a world where there was just me in a void space and some dragon spiraling sround me like some trippy tool video lol.
Tried again later, and found that mixing alcohol, and doses, and kinds, and intake methods, gives unique experiences. So trying to experiment kinda slowly over time as i got time. Really interested in a scientific approach as its the only thing ive ever had give any indication it can help with social anxiety disorder. Helped in 3 ways one night but might have been placeeebo or how u spell it. gotta confirm this still, then see about how to use it as a tool to recovery. Also, noticed if i play the piano, songs i played as a kid, it legit feels 100% like you went back in time and are viewing from little you's point of view as little you plays piano. Unique and super cool to experience that. Plus the 2nd time getting high was a super potent brownie, at warped tour lol. Well i kinda regret it, was staring back at the empty moshpit like its gonna eat me, kinda crouched down. While turning back locked eyes with a girl, purple sparkling contacts in with pentagrams around the irises, and makeup and clothing/hair color and such to compliment it all, was amazed and instantly decided im gonna paint her face some day, call that painting "starstruck". lol.

Also its kinda great as it helps me be happy, and just let loose, be human again. When thats been a struggle since the dawn of time. Kinda sucks that only it can do that, but i view it as s tool. Really nice when you and your girlfriend whom you lovevery much, do it together lol, everything is just so great even walking lol, which you need help with sometimes.
One other thing to mention is that only after grying things more regularly, do I ever have the understanding of why people turn to it because of depression.

Anyways, on the topic of intp and pot, thats my experience. Schitzophrenia runs in my family maybe, my uncle has it hardcore like hes not even there the old him is gone. Not schitzophrenic yet no signs of it im aware of. BUT everyone I know rhats been using it since they were little, Id consider not the smartest, though thats a bit unfair of a judgement being an INTP, but ones failed to complete algebra (out of ability not effort), and ones an honors student but with practically zero science/math understanding and is highly emotion driven. The rest are nust my friend's friends which involve people selling themselves on the street for drug money (dudes lol), and hippies that dont shower and just neex a staff to dress like jesus for halloween. He leaves his hoodie and it stinks up the entire room lol. Save the planet tho. And all sortsa odd people, first time i met his roommate she anf her boyfriend were having sex on the couch when we walked in, i didnt know it but theyre high on ecstasy andstuff. But they hang out with us later and are super friendly lol, and this is one of the few times i be social, so im like " wow, so this is how friendly people are!". Her boyfriend kept insisting ai join his band lol. They call me Butters sometimes and it fits.
 
Top Bottom