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Hello! I am new to the site, so I don't completely know what I am doing. I have a question that is burning a hole in my mind, friends. I've taken the myers-brigs personality test several times, and I consistently get the identification of INTP or INTJ. Every time I take it I get either, it doesn't seem to differ when I am in a different mind set or mood.
So I know that it is close, but I need to know which one I am. Even if it is so close that the classification could be either, I need to know the one that beats the other even if just by a small small irrelevant fraction of a centimeter. It's been bothering me! I'm becoming obsessed! Could anybody ask me questions which would help me discover which that I am? It would be such a great help!
 

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What comes easier for you: Being in the present, or Being aware of social etiquette?

Name some of your hobbies, and why you like them.

Where do you see the future of technology going in the next ten years?

EDIT: Name some things you dislike in life, and why.
 

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Jackie Chan?

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1) being in the present, I suppose. I have no common sense of social etiquette. I barely have any common sense for that matter. I guess I am very in the present, I usually have little thought about the future except for a broad expanse of unknowing in my mind
2) I am an artist, and I mostly like it because I can express my emotions through my art, and I don't have to explain them or interpret them for anybody. It's one of the only ways I express myself. I also like it because I am talented at it.
3) I don't know about technology, but I foresee a lot of minimization and an up in efficiency of every machine or robot or device. I think that computers will become the primary source of correspondence and will replace most other small gadgets and books... I don't know too much about these things, honestly. But I am curious.
4) I dislike most people, I dislike reality tv shows, I dislike unhealthy food, I dislike anything self indulgent, I dislike gluttony. That is why I dislike the first things.

I don't think I am jackie chan, thanks for the suggestion though
 

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well yeah, he's pretty suave. I wish I could be him...
 

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Good good good.


1. When you start a project, are you satisfied with the exploration of the project and learning from it alone, or does it have to have a end goal that you are pushing toward?

2. How do you approach your art? Is it mainly experimental in that the final image is not entirely important, you create one idea, and from that idea inspires another idea, and so on. Or do you have a vision of what you want to create and you create that?

3. Why do you dislike Unhealthy food and gluttony, and what specific kinds of food to you prefer, and why?

(I know these questions might seem random, but I know what I am doing.)
 

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I know you know what you are doing! :D

I dislike unhealthy foods because when I became vegetarian I was introduced to many new wonderful foods that I felt better about eating. Also I was curious about all the different foods in the world, and I felt a bit lazy to be ritually eating the same boring things. But that is a bit untrue, I do enjoy my taco bell bean burrito once in a while.
Usually I have an idea, but it is so vague that I barely think. I just let my hand move. But the experimentation is also important to me, I feel like I am climbing up a ladder. When I gain perspective on my processes of creating new pieces I feel the importance of the experimentation. And I am excited about my growth. But always slightly unsatisfied. But the goal is important too, I think I meshed your two first questions together.
 

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Some people are equally balanced between J and P. It's not like you've failed a test or something if you don't end up one way or the other. All it identifies is tendencies, and everybody has a little bit of the other for each of those characteristics.
 

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I have one more question, and this actually is not in determination of INTP vs INTJ, because I have already ruled out INTJ.

Tell me about your ability to comfort others, when you see a person who is disheartened, do you feel you should tend to their pain and have a natural ability to do so, or do you feel like you are not entirely sure what is expected of you in a time like that, or if the person even wants comforting?
 

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Some people are equally balanced between J and P. It's not like you've failed a test or something if you don't end up one way or the other. All it identifies is tendencies, and everybody has a little bit of the other for each of those characteristics.
No Editor, Everyone has a preference no matter how developed they are.
 

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the second option, I never feel like I am doing enough and are always insecure of my relationships with people. I rarely know how to comfort others and am very sorry about it
 

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Congratulations, you're an INTP!
You sound like very well developed INTP at that.

Here is the rundown of my analysis:

1) being in the present, I suppose. I have no common sense of social etiquette. I barely have any common sense for that matter. I guess I am very in the present, I usually have little thought about the future except for a broad expanse of unknowing in my mind
The point of this question was to determine if your inferior function is Fe or Se. INTJs have Se as an inferior function, which is why being in the present is hard for them, as they get their stimulation for being in the speculative future visions of Ni. INTPs on the other hand have Fe as an inferior function, which is why having a sense for social etiquette is hard for them because the personal logic of Ti puts them far from the interpersonal dynamics of Fe. Having Fe as an inferior function also makes it hard for them to articulate their thoughts, that's one I forgot to ask you about. Ne is one of the INTP's near side functions, so being in the present is actually quite easy for us.

2) I am an artist, and I mostly like it because I can express my emotions through my art, and I don't have to explain them or interpret them for anybody. It's one of the only ways I express myself. I also like it because I am talented at it.
Very interesting, it actually sounds like you found something that allows you to peak. When all personalities are stimulated by a certain form of production, they can use the energy gained from this stimulating activity to charge all of their functions down to their inferior. It sounds like your art has put you in touch with your Fe, nice. Music did the same for me.

3) I don't know about technology, but I foresee a lot of minimization and an up in efficiency of every machine or robot or device. I think that computers will become the primary source of correspondence and will replace most other small gadgets and books... I don't know too much about these things, honestly. But I am curious.
Basically there was a secret message to this question, I was asking you to show me your Ni worldview, if you have one. Considering the fact that it looks like you just came up with these answers on the spot, and don't seem to have put much thought into the future unfolding, It appears you are not an Ni user.

I dislike unhealthy foods because when I became vegetarian I was introduced to many new wonderful foods that I felt better about eating. Also I was curious about all the different foods in the world, and I felt a bit lazy to be ritually eating the same boring things.
Sounds like a preference for Ne, all of the different possibilities of types of food, beat the mundane repetition of Si.
But that is a bit untrue, I do enjoy my taco bell bean burrito once in a while.
Usually I have an idea, but it is so vague that I barely think. I just let my hand move. But the experimentation is also important to me, I feel like I am climbing up a ladder. When I gain perspective on my processes of creating new pieces I feel the importance of the experimentation. And I am excited about my growth. But always slightly unsatisfied. But the goal is important too, I think I meshed your two first questions together.

Awesome, an Ni user would have had a goal in mind from the very begining, and worked toward that. For INTPs, we knew what we want, but our vision of that is some what vague so we keep trying new things until we get it.
 

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Woah you really broke it down for me, thank you very much! :D
 

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hahahaha...hawkeye, your wonderful insight did not go unappreciated..:)
 

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I am pretty new to this site too, and i have taken the same test as emiiee and I wonder if you could help me out too. I have also take the test a number of times and i am always on the border of INTP and INFP. I may not have been as obsessed about it as he/she has, but it has been on my mind for a few days :). Maybe you can elaborate on even how YOU(meaning everyone) learned on how to analyze my personality as well as anyone elses.

thanks for ANYTHING seriously
 

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What comes easier for you: Being in the present, or Being aware of social etiquette?

The point of this question was to determine if your inferior function is Fe or Se. INTJs have Se as an inferior function, which is why being in the present is hard for them, as they get their stimulation for being in the speculative future visions of Ni. INTPs on the other hand have Fe as an inferior function, which is why having a sense for social etiquette is hard for them because the personal logic of Ti puts them far from the interpersonal dynamics of Fe. Having Fe as an inferior function also makes it hard for them to articulate their thoughts, that's one I forgot to ask you about. Ne is one of the INTP's near side functions, so being in the present is actually quite easy for us.
Interesting. I find being aware of social ettiquite much easier than being in the present, though I find it very draining.

Does Ne really correlate to being in the present? It translates to groundless, senseless possibilities, and this may result in spontinaeity, but in my case I almost never express it.
 

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Interesting. I find being aware of social ettiquite much easier than being in the present, though I find it very draining.

Does Ne really correlate to being in the present? It translates to groundless, senseless possibilities, and this may result in spontinaeity, but in my case I almost never express it.
Being in the present is pretty open to interpretation, which is I was hesitant to use it at all.

But to answer your question, yes it does. Ne surfs the possibilities that are relevant to what is happening, or what is being thought at that very moment. Ne is purely experiential, very much like Se is, in that it plays on taking in data that is happening in the present. The fact that you are seeing patterns and not the literal details of Se is irrelevant, it is still being used in real time. On top of this, as an adaptive function, Ne actually takes us out of our sense of time based structure that we would get from directive functions like Si and Ni. Ni on the other hand is based in time, and in the future, and using also takes you away from Se, which is the visceral experience that is happening in the present.
 
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