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Humans Need Not Apply.
This video explains the effect that AI will have in the near future, But what after that? Eventually we will make an AI smarter than any human, after that point the AI will be more eligible make an even better AI. The AI's will eventually exceed humans' performance in every possible task, making humans obsolete.
AI's will be better at making every important decision, factoring in morality, indiscrimination and any other human emotions we might make them obey. They will be better at doing the menial tasks as well. At some point they will be better at most if not all interpersonal tasks.
Suppose we manage to keep the AI loyal to humans and have it make us a world where there is plenty for everyone. Suppose no war occurs as the result of the controversy of making ourselves obsolete. Suppose no selfish human in power at any point decides to discriminate somehow because he doesn't like the idea of deserving as much as any and every other human on the planet.
Even if nothing goes terribly wrong, which, if we were to learn from history, is highly unlikely, the future is bleak. We are already overpopulating the planet and show no signs of stopping. The most common reason for not having kids is either being too busy, being too poor, medical reasons or seeing the process as too hard. All four reasons will be completely eliminated in the near future.
So what do we have now? An extremely overpopulated planet and people with no purpose just endlessly indulging in mindless pleasures until they die. We will be useless, incapable and unimportant.
What is humanity going to do? A big part of the commercial industry is already focused on maximizing our perceived pleasure by abusing our more primal desires, and the AI will be much better at that. The meaningless pleasures (Video games, food, sex etc.) is all that will be left to the meaningless humans.
At that poin, why is that better than just injecting dopamine, serotonin, endorphins and other pleasure hormones in the brain. Why would anyone live in the overpopulated world where you have no purpose instead of in an amazing virtual reality that you can't tell apart from the real world. What is even the point of extending the existence of useless humans just to have them born and artificially satisfied until they die.
One answer that might cross your mind is transhumanism. But it faces the same problem: Transhumans won't want to do menial tasks and an entirely separate system will eventually always be smarter than an upgraded human, making any transhumans who want to make decisions that affect anyone else instead of an AI selfish. That makes transhumans equally useless, and their existance too eventually boils down to being pleasured until you expire.
An argument could be made that everybody living in a virtual reality isn't so bad, but then what's the point and the logistics of reproducing actual humans, when you can just as easily have better, virtual kids running in the simulation indefinitely.
Another option is to reduce the population by limiting the amount of kids you're allowed to have. Suppose humans don't rebel against this. AI can then make the reality almost as amazing as the virtual world.
So it boils down to either the overpopulated planet with everyone in the virtual world, population regulated life in the real one, something going terribly wrong along the way or making AI illegal in the near future, which would drastically reduce the living standard and make us not stand a chance should we ever get in a way of another exponentially self improving AI, but is the least grim looking future (not in my opinion, but it would probably win if it was democratically put to a vote).
This really makes me question some things. What is the point of making a difference or any form of life falling under the conventional definition of "meaningful". We(again, not me but probably the general population) are generally repelled by living in a virtual world or having an AI take care of everything and would prefer working our asses off, worrying about financial and medical problems etc.. Is that just normative social influence and could the same be used to make people believe AI's are a good thing? Are they? What is the best future for humanity and what is the likely one?
This video explains the effect that AI will have in the near future, But what after that? Eventually we will make an AI smarter than any human, after that point the AI will be more eligible make an even better AI. The AI's will eventually exceed humans' performance in every possible task, making humans obsolete.
AI's will be better at making every important decision, factoring in morality, indiscrimination and any other human emotions we might make them obey. They will be better at doing the menial tasks as well. At some point they will be better at most if not all interpersonal tasks.
Suppose we manage to keep the AI loyal to humans and have it make us a world where there is plenty for everyone. Suppose no war occurs as the result of the controversy of making ourselves obsolete. Suppose no selfish human in power at any point decides to discriminate somehow because he doesn't like the idea of deserving as much as any and every other human on the planet.
Even if nothing goes terribly wrong, which, if we were to learn from history, is highly unlikely, the future is bleak. We are already overpopulating the planet and show no signs of stopping. The most common reason for not having kids is either being too busy, being too poor, medical reasons or seeing the process as too hard. All four reasons will be completely eliminated in the near future.
So what do we have now? An extremely overpopulated planet and people with no purpose just endlessly indulging in mindless pleasures until they die. We will be useless, incapable and unimportant.
What is humanity going to do? A big part of the commercial industry is already focused on maximizing our perceived pleasure by abusing our more primal desires, and the AI will be much better at that. The meaningless pleasures (Video games, food, sex etc.) is all that will be left to the meaningless humans.
At that poin, why is that better than just injecting dopamine, serotonin, endorphins and other pleasure hormones in the brain. Why would anyone live in the overpopulated world where you have no purpose instead of in an amazing virtual reality that you can't tell apart from the real world. What is even the point of extending the existence of useless humans just to have them born and artificially satisfied until they die.
One answer that might cross your mind is transhumanism. But it faces the same problem: Transhumans won't want to do menial tasks and an entirely separate system will eventually always be smarter than an upgraded human, making any transhumans who want to make decisions that affect anyone else instead of an AI selfish. That makes transhumans equally useless, and their existance too eventually boils down to being pleasured until you expire.
An argument could be made that everybody living in a virtual reality isn't so bad, but then what's the point and the logistics of reproducing actual humans, when you can just as easily have better, virtual kids running in the simulation indefinitely.
Another option is to reduce the population by limiting the amount of kids you're allowed to have. Suppose humans don't rebel against this. AI can then make the reality almost as amazing as the virtual world.
So it boils down to either the overpopulated planet with everyone in the virtual world, population regulated life in the real one, something going terribly wrong along the way or making AI illegal in the near future, which would drastically reduce the living standard and make us not stand a chance should we ever get in a way of another exponentially self improving AI, but is the least grim looking future (not in my opinion, but it would probably win if it was democratically put to a vote).
This really makes me question some things. What is the point of making a difference or any form of life falling under the conventional definition of "meaningful". We(again, not me but probably the general population) are generally repelled by living in a virtual world or having an AI take care of everything and would prefer working our asses off, worrying about financial and medical problems etc.. Is that just normative social influence and could the same be used to make people believe AI's are a good thing? Are they? What is the best future for humanity and what is the likely one?
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and this would keep me healthy and smart. If I had better health then I would have fun learning things. Right now I eat unhealthy stuff and I just don't feel that well most of the time. But when I feel well I don't feel like I am obsolete or that what I am doing is pointless. It's only because of mental illness that we feel useless. A.I. will help us get into