k9b4
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Please, if you have read anything I've posted, I would love to hear your opinion.
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OK, it's on.
What MBTI type do you think I am?
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k9b4
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Is that your honest opinion or do you think you're funny?
Anyone else who wants to practice for their future career in comedy can fuck off right now.
k9b4
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Suck my dick. Do not post in any of my threads, you are an idiot.
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INFJ
You think introversion is intuitive and extroversion sensing probably because you introvert Intuition and extrovert Sensing.
You feel like your Thinking and Feeling are equally strong (common for reason I already explained, for an INFJ their Thinking and Feeling are close in the functional stack)
Act like you're "too cool" for official definitions and question things under a pretense of wanting to understand but you already have your opinions and cherry picked arguments aligned to defend them and reject other people's input probably because accepting textbook definitions is for plebs and SJs.
As well as a drive to deconstruct and question.
Typical immature (no offense) INFJ.
Edit: calm your shit.
You think introversion is intuitive and extroversion sensing probably because you introvert Intuition and extrovert Sensing.
You feel like your Thinking and Feeling are equally strong (common for reason I already explained, for an INFJ their Thinking and Feeling are close in the functional stack)
Act like you're "too cool" for official definitions and question things under a pretense of wanting to understand but you already have your opinions and cherry picked arguments aligned to defend them and reject other people's input probably because accepting textbook definitions is for plebs and SJs.
As well as a drive to deconstruct and question. Typical immature (no offense) INFJ.
Edit: calm your shit.
k9b4
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An honest answer, thank you.INFJ
You think introversion is intuitive and extroversion sensing probably because you introvert Intuition and extrovert Sensing.
You feel like your thinking and feeling are equally strong (common for reason I already explained, for an INFJ their Thinking and Feeling are close in the functional stack)
Act like you're "too cool" for official definitions and question things under a pretense of wanting to understand but you already have your opinions and cherry picked arguments aligned to defend them and reject other people's input probably because accepting textbook definitions is for plebs and SJs.
Typical immature (no offense) INFJ.
Answer however you want, as long as you explain your answer.
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i think you are a NSFW gif type
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^ redbaron what do you think my type is? burnwitch me if necessary
k9b4
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If XNXJ is an honest assessment, then I thank you. If you are practicing your pathetic humour skills, you can go fuck yourself.
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stop trying to demostrate you use Te and Fi cuz you don't only some of us are gifted by that nature
*runs naked through the forest while laughting histerically*
*runs naked through the forest while laughting histerically*
k9b4
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I'm not consciously trying to demonstrate anything. I am being as honest as I can.
Jennywocky
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Less joking, more fucking, please.
.... but no, I'm not sure what type you are. You seem hyperrational in the Ti way, yet also pretty quick to make a judgment succinctly without really being flexible in what something means.
Maybe that's why Fukyo came up with INFJ.
.... but no, I'm not sure what type you are. You seem hyperrational in the Ti way, yet also pretty quick to make a judgment succinctly without really being flexible in what something means.
Maybe that's why Fukyo came up with INFJ.
k9b4
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Yes, exactly.
I actually laughed at this.
I'm sorry for saying swear words at everybody. I'm pissed off about something that happened which caused me to question who I am.
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you were told you were an SJ isn't it?
k9b4
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Do you believe that I am an SJ?
Irrational response / questing for self; seeking advice from members of the great unclean.
Combine this with your previous demonstrations of poor logic / inability to grasp concepts... I'd wager you're an Fe type with extremely poor (no offence) Ti.
xSFJ, I'd say. One stuck in an unhealthy Ti-loop, perhaps trying to overcompensate for your perceived shortcomings. I've seen it all before.
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....but then, I say everyone is an ESTP. Especially when they curse and swear at everyone, because they don't like being inferior in a perceived hierarchy.
ESTP
Extroverted Sensing (Se, Se)
But then, it would be silly to say I know you, I've only got what I can see on the forum. That, and assuming that MBTI/Socionics isn't all completely bunk.
I'm wondering how much of that description is a forer effect.
....but then, I say everyone is an ESTP. Especially when they curse and swear at everyone, because they don't like being inferior in a perceived hierarchy.
ESTP
Extroverted Sensing (Se, Se)
SLEs are willful, independently-minded individuals who are able to recognise levels of willpower and motivation in others. They are adept at organising others effectively towards any given objective, and have no problem "getting the job done". They have no reservations about taking the initiative when they perceive that others cannot or will not do so. SLEs will often act without all the information they need to go about doing something, but can be successful nonetheless. They are very active people who think on the move, and who generally steer away from a contemplative lifestyle.
SLEs easily spot power dynamics within any given structure, hierarchy or relationship, and strive for a position where they are less subordinate to others. At the same time, SLEs are comfortable with hierarchies, and recognise that they are a part of everyday life. Their main objective lies in occupying a predominant place in any hierarchy, and because of their energetic and ambitious nature, SLEs can often seem intolerant towards and disrespectful of those of a lower social status. They will often see these people as weak or inferior in some way. Likewise, they see dependence as weakness, and so strive to minimise their dependence on others.
SLEs can be natural leaders. They are often quick to assume this role, even in alien or unfamiliar environments. They tend to have a very rigid and inflexible style of leadership, preferring a direct, single approach to achieving goals as opposed to experimentation with various methods to achieve said goals. However, if the method they're using isn't working, they won't foolishly persist, but will use or find a different one. They take full responsibility for their actions, and understand these terms when they take a leadership-based role within a group, company or organisation, as being part of what leadership is about.
SLEs are in tune with the immediate physical environment, and often seek to control or mold it to their needs or to assert themselves. They often make a point of displaying their strength to this end and often follow their instinctual urges with little inhibition. For this reason they can appear impulsive, aggressive, and rash. They can be inconsiderate of the needs of others in their attempts to pursue their goals.
Introverted Logic (Ti, Ti)
SLEs often are adept at formulating logical systems, models, and at generating logical relationships and reasonings. They typically use such models as a basis for understanding the world. More intellectually-minded SLEs can place a great deal of focus on developing these types of considerations and see logical systems and structured views as necessary. Some SLEs have a tendency to staunchly and somewhat dogmatically adhere to their viewpoints. At the same time SLEs' use of Ti is largely flexible; if they perceive that their systems are not working to meet their ends, they can be relatively quick to expend and dispense with them.
SLEs predominantly focus their own power-based agenda in utilizing their logical faculties. They may be drawn to power hierarchies or environments where rules are plainly stated and enforced. They tend to gather - either legitimately or illegitimately - and retain information which they deem to be useful to their own ends; they may refer to well-known facts, statistics and historical examples to back up their claims. They are independently minded and frequently come to their own conclusions, often holding few reservations about in the face of strong moral or ideological opposition. They enjoy learning about a wide variety of things, and are motivated by the prospect of rewards and status; they like to prove their authority e.g. through a large amount of academic awards or extra curricular certificates.
SLEs tend towards simplistic, black-and-white views, and often dabble in logical absolutes. Often SLEs' have difficulty processing ambiguity and their inner sense of logical order may compel them to jump to impulsive conclusions rather than think things through. For this reason, an SLEs interpretations can be relatively subjective and suffer from a lack of other perspectives. It can be very difficult to argue with an SLE; often will they refuse to take others' advice or submit to another's logic that contradicts their own. They may be overly critical of ideas of others that do not mesh with their established interpretations.
- See more at: http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/SLE-ESTp/#sthash.iY0wy4kw.dpuf
SLEs easily spot power dynamics within any given structure, hierarchy or relationship, and strive for a position where they are less subordinate to others. At the same time, SLEs are comfortable with hierarchies, and recognise that they are a part of everyday life. Their main objective lies in occupying a predominant place in any hierarchy, and because of their energetic and ambitious nature, SLEs can often seem intolerant towards and disrespectful of those of a lower social status. They will often see these people as weak or inferior in some way. Likewise, they see dependence as weakness, and so strive to minimise their dependence on others.
SLEs can be natural leaders. They are often quick to assume this role, even in alien or unfamiliar environments. They tend to have a very rigid and inflexible style of leadership, preferring a direct, single approach to achieving goals as opposed to experimentation with various methods to achieve said goals. However, if the method they're using isn't working, they won't foolishly persist, but will use or find a different one. They take full responsibility for their actions, and understand these terms when they take a leadership-based role within a group, company or organisation, as being part of what leadership is about.
SLEs are in tune with the immediate physical environment, and often seek to control or mold it to their needs or to assert themselves. They often make a point of displaying their strength to this end and often follow their instinctual urges with little inhibition. For this reason they can appear impulsive, aggressive, and rash. They can be inconsiderate of the needs of others in their attempts to pursue their goals.
Introverted Logic (Ti, Ti)
SLEs often are adept at formulating logical systems, models, and at generating logical relationships and reasonings. They typically use such models as a basis for understanding the world. More intellectually-minded SLEs can place a great deal of focus on developing these types of considerations and see logical systems and structured views as necessary. Some SLEs have a tendency to staunchly and somewhat dogmatically adhere to their viewpoints. At the same time SLEs' use of Ti is largely flexible; if they perceive that their systems are not working to meet their ends, they can be relatively quick to expend and dispense with them.
SLEs predominantly focus their own power-based agenda in utilizing their logical faculties. They may be drawn to power hierarchies or environments where rules are plainly stated and enforced. They tend to gather - either legitimately or illegitimately - and retain information which they deem to be useful to their own ends; they may refer to well-known facts, statistics and historical examples to back up their claims. They are independently minded and frequently come to their own conclusions, often holding few reservations about in the face of strong moral or ideological opposition. They enjoy learning about a wide variety of things, and are motivated by the prospect of rewards and status; they like to prove their authority e.g. through a large amount of academic awards or extra curricular certificates.
SLEs tend towards simplistic, black-and-white views, and often dabble in logical absolutes. Often SLEs' have difficulty processing ambiguity and their inner sense of logical order may compel them to jump to impulsive conclusions rather than think things through. For this reason, an SLEs interpretations can be relatively subjective and suffer from a lack of other perspectives. It can be very difficult to argue with an SLE; often will they refuse to take others' advice or submit to another's logic that contradicts their own. They may be overly critical of ideas of others that do not mesh with their established interpretations.
- See more at: http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/SLE-ESTp/#sthash.iY0wy4kw.dpuf
But then, it would be silly to say I know you, I've only got what I can see on the forum. That, and assuming that MBTI/Socionics isn't all completely bunk.
I'm wondering how much of that description is a forer effect.
ddspada
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An FJ of some kind. I lean toward toward saying ISFJ.
You seem to have a notorious interest in systems where definitional precision is key to understanding, yet you seem to have trouble with definitional precision itself -- or perhaps more accurately, with accepting pre-existing definitions so as to actually understand the system you're trying to understand. I believe someone accused you of trying to bend MBTI's meanings into your "snowflake" perception, and I believe the accusation is indeed founded.
You've proposed odd constructs around MBTI that have little sustentation (logic being opposed to introversion, sensing being always extraverted, introverted functions being just better developed) and seem to derive from a faulty understanding of the modules that make up the theory, which you try to simplify to a point where the meaning is distorted. When presented with evidence or reasoning that goes against your claims you brush it away, your idea or proposition being unaltered and unquestioned in the end. You come across as stubborn by doing so.
The way in which you present interpretations of a system as theory-heavy as MBTI, the understanding of which often comes more naturally to intuitive types, makes me think Ne is not high (or not present at all) in your type's functional stack -- as far as abstractions go, you seem to love to stick to your guns, even when it is strongly suggested that your understanding of the topic at hand is not correct. I see this as Si, not because of Si itself but because of almost categorical disregard for Ne-centric counterarguments given to you.
I haven't seen anything for Fe either; rather, I see evidence against a "developed" use of Ti. However, I don't see EFJs being as adamant as you are in topics like the ones discussed in threads you've participated in and/or created (hence my leaning toward ISFJ).
INFJ I'm willing to consider as well, for the reasons Fukyo presented.
I think it's very likely that the way in which you communicate here has not yet proven sufficiently conducive to your showing of Fe and/or Si (if you are an ISFJ), either because of the topics at hand or the manner in which you construct or word your arguments.
You seem to have a notorious interest in systems where definitional precision is key to understanding, yet you seem to have trouble with definitional precision itself -- or perhaps more accurately, with accepting pre-existing definitions so as to actually understand the system you're trying to understand. I believe someone accused you of trying to bend MBTI's meanings into your "snowflake" perception, and I believe the accusation is indeed founded.
You've proposed odd constructs around MBTI that have little sustentation (logic being opposed to introversion, sensing being always extraverted, introverted functions being just better developed) and seem to derive from a faulty understanding of the modules that make up the theory, which you try to simplify to a point where the meaning is distorted. When presented with evidence or reasoning that goes against your claims you brush it away, your idea or proposition being unaltered and unquestioned in the end. You come across as stubborn by doing so.
The way in which you present interpretations of a system as theory-heavy as MBTI, the understanding of which often comes more naturally to intuitive types, makes me think Ne is not high (or not present at all) in your type's functional stack -- as far as abstractions go, you seem to love to stick to your guns, even when it is strongly suggested that your understanding of the topic at hand is not correct. I see this as Si, not because of Si itself but because of almost categorical disregard for Ne-centric counterarguments given to you.
I haven't seen anything for Fe either; rather, I see evidence against a "developed" use of Ti. However, I don't see EFJs being as adamant as you are in topics like the ones discussed in threads you've participated in and/or created (hence my leaning toward ISFJ).
INFJ I'm willing to consider as well, for the reasons Fukyo presented.
I think it's very likely that the way in which you communicate here has not yet proven sufficiently conducive to your showing of Fe and/or Si (if you are an ISFJ), either because of the topics at hand or the manner in which you construct or word your arguments.
Age would help.
I'm reluctant to jump on the INFJ bandwagon, but it's possible that a young / poorly developed INFJ may exhibit some of the characteristics shown here.
I'm sticking with xSFJ for now.
I'm reluctant to jump on the INFJ bandwagon, but it's possible that a young / poorly developed INFJ may exhibit some of the characteristics shown here.
I'm sticking with xSFJ for now.
Ah, no then.
An angry ESFJ, perhaps? Cast aside by a world which demands that men must be hard of heart and mind; he's overcompensating for what he perceives to be a deficiency, bringing out his inferior Ti to play with.
Or maybe he's an IxFP.
Whatever the case, I'd wager his thinking function is inferior... because that shit (his previous threads pertaining to the MBTI) drove even my tertiary Ti crazy.
An angry ESFJ, perhaps? Cast aside by a world which demands that men must be hard of heart and mind; he's overcompensating for what he perceives to be a deficiency, bringing out his inferior Ti to play with.
Or maybe he's an IxFP.
Whatever the case, I'd wager his thinking function is inferior... because that shit (his previous threads pertaining to the MBTI) drove even my tertiary Ti crazy.
redbaron
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Maybe. Everyone develops at different rates. I actually think ages 17-25 are the typical range for this kind of behaviour. It's the time when people start to gain more autonomy, begin to interact with the world in earnest and make their own decisions (outside the scope of school, parents, peers).
Like they're just smart enough to contemplate ideas at surface level but not really understand things. I barely separate age 20 from age 15 in that respect.
I've been leaning towards NFJ. I guess SFJ fits as well but not as neatly for me. The main thing I note is preference for Ni or Si, followed by Fe. If I had to make a guess right now I'd actually say:
ENFJ.
Like they're just smart enough to contemplate ideas at surface level but not really understand things. I barely separate age 20 from age 15 in that respect.
I've been leaning towards NFJ. I guess SFJ fits as well but not as neatly for me. The main thing I note is preference for Ni or Si, followed by Fe. If I had to make a guess right now I'd actually say:
ENFJ.
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I think you two should meet up at RB's mum's house and find out. No I'm serious this is actually feasible.
I won't type you as I keep thinking about an EXFP with the same name who attempts standup.
I won't type you as I keep thinking about an EXFP with the same name who attempts standup.
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his logic isn't as bad as y'all claim
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man i haven't even read that much of you, i'm just trying to piss you off
k9b4
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Yeah I am 20.
I was raised by a single mother - I believe she is some kind of SFJ herself.
She possesses talent for logic and conceptualization though - she lectures chemical engineering.
I believe my strongest talents lie in logic and conceptualization, but I learned how to be an SFJ from my mother.
I know. Please stop. Your trolling is weak and painfully obvious.