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What is wrong with modern life

sushi

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discuss.

why are we so unhappy despite of better technology and abundance?
 

lightfire

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Was the purpose of better and abundant technology supposed to make us happy? It was supposed to make things easier or convenient. Not sure if that's supposed to make us happy or not. Depends what you use it for?
 

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Humans are machines designed (evolved) for survival, paradoxically we thrive on adversity, without exposure to filth our immue systems become weak and turn on our own bodies (not being exposed to sickness can make us sick), without having to fight the force of gravity our muscles atrophy and our bones become brittle.

There's nothing wrong with technology, the problem is that we're not designed to be happy, we're designed to succeed in a world that's trying to kill us.
 
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we're designed to succeed in a world that's trying to kill us.
Over a million years of exposure to environmental conditioning, the brain has been able to form a regulatory system where brain waves bouncing around inside it lead to intelligent behavior rather than the disintegration of the regulatory mechanism/memory modification process.
 

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People might be unhappy if they don't grow or seek out challenges.

It's their issue to make their life happy, instead of expecting the environment to force them to be happy or provide threats to have them overcome and become satisfactory as narrative.

Maybe nowadays it's easier to subsist depressed and miserable, whereas in the past depressed people would just die or fall into trouble catastrophic enough to keep them occupied and not thinking about their happiness.


Scrubs think 1900s were hard mode, in fact it's more hardcore to up the difficulty when easy mode is available.
 

Polaris

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Because life's a trap.
 

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Generally yes, unless there's two of them in which case it's a three way and therefore not gay.
 

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Personally I think the industrial revolution and the capitalism project has run its course. We've basically covered all the primitive needs of humans.. we at least in the developed world. I think people will begin to look outwards to the outside of their own society to find meaning in life, such as going to undeveloped areas to help develop it and such.

I've also been taught to think that humanity has two ways of looking at life, at least in secular terms, which is through the Enlightenment heritage, which is to basically look at life through the lens of reason and the industrial might, or through the Romanticist heritage, which is to look at humanity through the lens of primitive instinct such as through Will, art, nature, wonder, and the like. These twin cultural epochs in human history have their course- such as the Enlightenment in the 17th century and the Romanticist period which followed, like through the philosophical angle of the German idealists or the poets like Goethe or Lord Byron. I think in this day in age the Enlightenment heritage has take a hold of humanity more, with its technological prowess. Events like the 4th industrial revolution will help advance this epoch in history, but since this history is more like a wave, a Romanticist period I think will follow. People would try and return to be human more. I guess that's why people like Jordan Peterson is popular- he draws from people who have a more irrational understanding of humanity, such as Carl Jung.


As for the problems of 'modern life', like I said I think capitalism has run its course... so there will obviously be a transition stage in which people will be able to enjoy their leisure more. Events such as the 4th industrial revolution I think will help in that aspect.
 

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Events like the 4th industrial revolution will help advance this epoch in history, but since this history is more like a wave, a Romanticist period I think will follow.
Absolutely I think we're in a new renaissance, now is a great time to be an artist of any kind, even if your art is making kitchen cabinets the demand for bespoke things has never been higher.
 
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There's nothing wrong with technology, the problem is that we're not designed to be happy, we're designed to succeed in a world that's trying to kill us.
I don't necessarily think the world is designed only to kill us. You're not wrong, but I think it's more like natural boundaries. This "world" also pretty much created us (evolutionary speaking, and we literally have to eat things from the earth to live), and we die and then our lives got back to a blank drawing board. The only problem with technology is that we look at it as a short cut to solving our own happiness, I think. Humans just like to problem solve because of our brains, and I guess we all figure the more "work' we make easier, then the happier we can be, right? Trying to simplify it like that doesn't really solve anything. There's probably even a "happiness for dummies" book out there. (...is there???)

Personally I think the industrial revolution and the capitalism project has run its course. We've basically covered all the primitive needs of humans.. we at least in the developed world. I think people will begin to look outwards to the outside of their own society to find meaning in life, such as going to undeveloped areas to help develop it and such.
I often think the same thing...people so often equate "progress" with getting more technologically advanced. In certain professions that's all well and good, but it's not sustainable if we run our mass now-just-about-global societies that way. I'd like another Renisance age to come. A lot of people in the younger generations are yearning for that too. We just have to change the way we look at living so we don't die in the meantime.
 
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A gripe I have with modern life is the splintering of tribe/culture/connection. It's so easy to become esoteric and distant from each other in todays world. With ever expanding difference tribes get smaller and smaller, values get more incongruent and something bigger than ourselves becomes harder to identify with. I know diversity is a good thing but at some point I think it makes us all strangers. As an example gone are the days where more often than not neighbors knew each other, gone are the days where we all commune around the same forms of entertainment, etc. I might just be nostalgic but the increase in loneliness and depression in the world to me is indicative of the ease at which we can isolate yet still trick ourselves into thinking we are connecting, how easy it is to become an outsider if you don't do or present yourself in the way orchestrators of pop-culture and advertising influence you into doing. In saying that so much of what passes for connecting today is pseudo-connection, there is no touch, eye-contact, use of the voice is most cases, etc. We connect with ideas we have of others in a remote way rather than an other here in close proximity, we have ample time to check what we are communicating before we communicate it (i.e. there is no onus to answer or speak quickly to avoid awkward silence), there is no threat of a punch in the face if you say the wrong thing to the wrong person, etc. The whole dynamic of being human and part of a collective has been turned on its head and I kind of find this inorganic.
 

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the more sophisticated technology becomes, the easier it is for the smart to exploit the dumb. E.g. social media – arguably the most soul-sucking, vapid, cesspool of shit ever invented by humankind – where algorithms optimize the content to make the average zombie idiot out there waste as much time as possible.
 

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the biggest tyranny is the clock.

Imagine the days we had before the clock was invented.
 
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