I'm seriously considering buying Holly Wood.I actually don't know that much of his work... Just a few songs I've picked up on over the years.
It was only recently I decided that I would explore his work, but I haven't yet.. so let me know how it goes
I dunno why I never looked before, - he looked weird
But I'm totally digging his weird right now.
Smells Like Children looks like it might be my winner..
I'll download his albums tomorrow and we can compare notes xD
...well, it looks like it might take me a few days to complete those downloads, haha. fucking excellent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smells_Like_Children#Themesthe band's frontman has discussed his thoughts in retrospect on Smells Like Children within his autobiography The Long Hard Road Out of Hell, circa 1998:
“It was a perfect preface to an album about abuse: sexual abuse, domestic abuse, drug abuse, psychological abuse. Midway through the record, we [initially] included one of the taped confessions we had gathered, from a girl who molested her seven-year-old male cousin. It underscored the subplot of the album, about the most common target of abuse: innocence. I've always liked the Peter Pan idea of being a kid in mind if not in body, and Smells Like Children was supposed to be a record for someone who's no longer a child, someone who, like myself, wants their innocence back now that they're corrupted enough to appreciate it. [...] What began as a very disturbing record had become a record that disturbed only me.
Manson has considered the release to be "An album that looks like an album for children that is not for children"; in fact, on the outer rim of the CD label the printed words "Keep this and all drugs away from small children" are visible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Wood_(In_the_Shadow_of_the_Valley_of_Death)#ThemesViolence is the central theme of the album, which takes a critical look at America's obsession with firearms, death and fame and their ramifications in the Columbine tragedy. Manson sees the root causes of Columbine as the gun culture, conservative American Christianity and traditional family values. The album illustrates the harmful roles they play in the glorification (and acceptance) of violence in "mainstream" culture, illustrated by the slogan "Guns, God and Government". Drawing similarities between the Cold War period of 1960s America and the 1990s, Manson uses allegories from the former decade and other events and figures in cultural history. Music journalist Charlotte Robinson said that it is difficult to assess the "narrative's effectiveness" without the book and film: "the album doesn't tell much of a story, instead presenting variations on the same themes".
[Holy Wood is] not necessarily [all] about the Columbine incident, but more the reason why it happened ... [It's about] the way America raises its kids to feel like they're unwanted and made to feel like they're dead already. They really don't have anything to live for and it's also concerned with the repercussions of that incident.
—Marilyn Manson, on the album's prevailing theme
I don't actually know much about MM like you. I am just kinda fascinated by the guy who seems to act like he doesn't give a shit. IDK what my fav song off Holy Wood is because I don't think I have listened to it in entirety. Might have to after reading that though.Smells Like Children:
Hmm, whats ya favorite track on Holy Wood?
Interesting. See this analysis that I was watching that went over all MM stuff said that his best material as a whole has been his newest stuff.If you have to pick just ONE (why you didn't just listen to his stuff on Youtube and then buy, idk ), Antichrist Superstar is probably the one.
Honestly, though, keep in mind that MM ruled the age of MTV. I actually think their best works are their music videos and live performances (some of the best of which have been removed from Youtube, fwiw). God, Guns, & Government in LA is still there though. When I was 11 I used to run off the bus to turn on MTV for the opportunity to watch The Dope Show vid. But yeah, I think to really understand the symbolism of something like "I Don't Like The Drugs" you need the video accompaniment.
You almost made me gag irl.Interesting. See this analysis that I was watching that went over all MM stuff said that his best material as a whole has been his newest stuff.
The argument is that MM was playing the part of an "antichrist" but was actually an antichrist until his later stuff. His stuff stopped being stories made up to being about his real life would be the difference.You almost made me gag irl.
imho, nothing MM produced after 2001 is any good, outside of a couple songs on Golden Age of Grotesque.
I'm not here to argue against your personal perspective. Taste is largely subjective anyways.Eh, let's not forget the band is more than just 1 guy. There was a creative synergy between different people pre and post GAG. You basically have MM and what's left of Twiggy at this point.
Yea, I'm lovin the energy of The Golden Age of Grotesque.I own a copy of his Lest We Forget: The Best Of. I've recently been considering purchasing his album The Golden Age of Grotesque, due to the presence of This is the New Shit (my favourite track of the best of CD), and that I'd like to hear more from him.
My CD wishlist is already rather long, however, so it may take some time until the purchase is made, assuming that it will be.
I had the exact opposite view of Pale Emperor. I thought it came across as completely effortless. Its the one album I own of his and I have listened to it many times. His use of flowing and rhyming lyrics and simple yet refined music is what tells me this. I don't think he is trying to force anything in this album, I think it shows his experience in the music industry rather well.I like what The Pale Emperor tries to do... I think that it's almost, but not quite there.
I can't listen to the whole album without a break, I need the energy to pick up at some point.