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Total lack of energy & motivation - what to do?

xirekm

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Hi,

I have INTP personality, and many psychological problems. Last 2 years, I've been 7 times hospitalized in mental or neurotic hospitals, and taken quite a lot of drugs and psychotherapy - no improvement at all!!!

The main problem is the total lack of energy and motivation. I've found on the internet that many INTP people have similar problems, but nowhere found an answer what to do with this.

Has anyone of You got and overcome this problem of total lack of energy. What did you do?
 
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The best way to overcome lack of motivation is simply to find something you actually want to do. (If this sounds like it's hardly any advice at all and terribly simplistic, you're probably overlooking the important parts).

In the meantime try drinking coffee and lighting things on fire. Works for me...

(no, really, it does work).

Hospitals are over-rated imho, especially the ones that won't turn the lights off at night. They're usually the ones with bullshit premeditated schedules for you to follow and conform to, etc.
 

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Have you always had lack of energy? Or, would you say it started sometime after taking the medication?
 

xirekm

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Have you always had lack of energy? Or, would you say it started sometime after taking the medication?

I've always had less energy than an average person. I was always 'lazy', shy, slow toad.
But the worst started about 7 years ago before I taken any medications or psychoterapy, and got even worse since that time. I didn't notice any improvement or worsening after any medication.



The best way to overcome lack of motivation is simply to find something you actually want to do. (If this sounds like it's hardly any advice at all and terribly simplistic, you're probably overlooking the important parts).

I'm a computer programmer. Before I got crazy, I really liked this job, but now every software development technology just sucks for me as it could be done better.
Of course I could create my own, 'better' technology - but it takes a lot of time, and to create the 'better' technology you have to use the 'bad' old ones as the base (you have to start from something) - a dead, endless circle.
Before getting crazy I could live with such a 'bad' technology, now I probably became too intolerant of any frustration and can't do anything with that.
 
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I'm a computer programmer. Before I got crazy, I really liked this job, but now every software development technology just sucks for me as it could be done better.
Of course I could create my own, 'better' technology - but it takes a lot of time, and to create the 'better' technology you have to use the 'bad' old ones as the base (you have to start from something) - a dead, endless circle.
Before getting crazy I could live with such a 'bad' technology, now I probably became too intolerant of any frustration and can't do anything with that.
I think you're headed down a similar path to that of This Guy and This Other Guy. The question is how to support yourself in the process.

But really, what about taking a mediocre programming job with just enough hours to squeak by and doing your own thing on your own time? (My latest venture is laptop hardware repair coupled with some programming, growing mushrooms, and other types of around-fuckery).

And seriously... coffee + fire.
 

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But really, what about taking a mediocre programming job with just enough hours to squeak by and doing your own thing on your own time?

I just found a half-time job, for a very low salary. I'm starting in 2-3 weeks. Seeking a job with my personality is another problem - now I found it quite easily only because I didn't expect much money. When I was looking a job for a 'normal' pay 3 years ago, it took me about 30 interviews until i found something!

Anyway, I have a bad feeling I don't manage in even this half-time job. How to manage if everything sucks to me?

And what 'mushrooms' are you growing? The hallucinogen ones? :)
 
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Convincing yourself to work for others is quite a mind game you've got to play on yourself if you want to do it. Do your own thing and look for better positions while you're working. It's okay to be a lying sack of douche canoe when it comes to finding employment if you don't intend on staying in one spot, imho.

As for the shrooms:

Shiitake
Blue Oyster
Lions Mane
Reishi
Turkey Tail
Shaggy Mane

This is what I can do with sawdust, grain, horse manure, and logs (mostly high-graded black cherry that isn't lumber/veneer quality). I'm not quite as into it as some other folks I know, but

Psilocybe cubensis is actually.... easier to grow than most of the above. You only need a spore print, cardboard, and... Idon'twannagetbannedsogoogle... :D
 

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Hi <random letters as a username>. Edited to look like this: Step 1. Polysomnographic Recording :p Step 2. Be even more awesome than ever following the outcome of step 1.
 

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Had a terrible relationship with my ex girlfriend, was doing bad at my sales job, stopped going into work, had to move in with my mother, wasn't productive for weeks, etc etc. Spent all day procrastinating on the internet. I got into such a rut and put myself in such a bad mindset that I'm surprised I ever got out of it.

But what I did do that turned everything around was exercised and started eating better. That is the only thing that helped me. It makes you feel absolutely great every single time you are done. It gives you energy and removes that lethargic feeling from you. It forces you to stick to a schedule because you have to go to sleep at your bedtime because you're exhausted. You start to crave good food and don't want junk because your body becomes more demanding and powerful. You are pumped full of testosterone which is what gives you motivation and aggression to make the world bend to your will, etc etc.

I would recommend bodyweight exercises, so you don't need to go to the gym or anything else that will get in your way and let you pass it up. Body weight exercises are, as the name implies; just using your body as the weight itself. Pull-ups, leg lifts, push-ups, dips, squats etc. Now when you combine all of this into a rather large set where you don't take any breaks in between it can be quite intense and exhilarating. For example, do 10 pushups, jump up, 10 squats, drop down, 10 leg lifts, repeat. That will get your blood pumping. Another intensive bodyweight exercise is called a burpee, try to do 50 of those and you'll absolutely die.

When you get more serious you'll want to buy a barbell like I have for myself. I don't need to go to a fancy gym I can workout almost every muscle group with just my one bar. The hardest part is to get into a routine, and not over exerting yourself the first couple of days. You want to get into a routine where it's demanding but not over demanding where you'll start to regret the thought of it before you even begin. Something that's not going to take you to motivate yourself for hours to do before hand. Write out a program of ideas you expect yourself to do everyday. This helped for my brain, to have it meticulously planned out before hand with check boxes to tick off after each exercise was completed. It felt like I was really accomplishing something and I was getting healthier all the while. You need some testosterone and endorphins in your life buddy and then I think everything will begin to fall in place.
 

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I feel this way too before but has worsened when my lifestyle became uber sedentary 2 yrs ago

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I've always had less energy than an average person. I was always 'lazy', shy, slow toad.
But the worst started about 7 years ago before I taken any medications or psychoterapy, and got even worse since that time. I didn't notice any improvement or worsening after any medication.





I'm a computer programmer. Before I got crazy, I really liked this job, but now every software development technology just sucks for me as it could be done better.
Of course I could create my own, 'better' technology - but it takes a lot of time, and to create the 'better' technology you have to use the 'bad' old ones as the base (you have to start from something) - a dead, endless circle.
Before getting crazy I could live with such a 'bad' technology, now I probably became too intolerant of any frustration and can't do anything with that.

ha ha that remind me so much of me :) i'm building a bit my own os from scratch in better and simpler way that all these stuff we got nowday lol it's true it's bit depressing this whole software industry with microsoft crap, and all those geeky engineer stuff that doesn't even work that well lol
 

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I've been through this struggle as well.
Still go through it occasionally.
For me, the issue was caring. If you approach everything apathetically, your work is going to suck or there will be no work.
I solved it by doing the impossible-- things.
I felt physically unable to accomplish anything but I slowly started forcing myself to do small tasks, when I felt the rewards, however small, of the accomplished task it gave me motivation to do the next thing.
I guess it's basic hunting & gathering instinct and when you don't hunt & gather for a long time you forget the benefits of hunting & gathering therefore making it impossible to desire to be productive.

So basically, the only way I got out of my rut of not feeling able to do stuff was by doing stuff.
 

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I made a pill called "INTP talkative & do-shit pills".

1.0 total grams ]per capsule.
Alpha GPC – 150mg (24x =3.6g)
Oxiracetam - 750mg (24x =22.8g)
Caffeine - 100mg (24x =2.4g)
Noopept - 10mg (24x =.24g)

Only take 1 in the morning and in 2 weeks time you've got the universe under you.

after a while you take days off if you want to slow down being superman.
 
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