This board...

[Wisp]

Is it just me, or has Perseus completely FLOODED this board with inane topics? Ok, I kinow this IS the typing board, but I have to scroll to find a topic not by Perseus....

Anyway, aside from that, I have several problems about all of Perseus's collective posts. The first being that the MBTI is supposed to be a tool to understanding individuals, but not the definition of the being. Perseus is dealing in absolutes, while the MBTI was made with fuzzy boundaries in mind... Secondly, MBTI was made to judge NORMAL people, which creates a realm in which MBTI (or related typings) is, while interesting, not accurate.

I'd like to see what others (Perseus included) think as well. I'm not trying to bash Perseus, but the state of this board rather concerns me.

 

[Dissident]

Totally agree, Ive said it many times, but I stopped because it looked like I was in a personal crusade against him, which is not the case (and the fact that I never got a direct answer by him, I hope you are more lucky). I just like this forum and would like to see it grow, but I think some people wont take it seriously this way.

 

[loveofreason]

I've been mulling over the suggestion for all Perseus' polls to all be grouped in their own forum.

I just don't like deciding on that kind of stuff.

But then, I could make a place in the Inner Sanctum and call it Dragon Lair, or Barrow, and then those of us who are feeling a bit silly at any time can pop in for a spot of alternative reality. Never underestimate the value of folly to a weary mind.

 

[Dissident]

Decide away LoR, you have all our support

 

[Jesin]

Wisp, I agree with most of that post. I think a lot of people were thinking that, but were too afraid to say anything. I was, anyway. Yay Wisp!

(Just one question: what do you mean when you say the MBTI is meant to test normal people?)

 

[Fleur]

Personal crusade? Whoops...

 

[Wisp]

Exactly that. Before MBTI (my understanding is) most psychology was used to identify mentally unstable people. MBTI measures facets of normality.

 

[Jesin]

Ah, OK, you meant it wasn't made to measure degrees of normality or lack thereof. It sounded to me like you were saying it doesn't work on weird people, but that wouldn't make sense, so I asked.

 

[Wisp]

Oh. no. I didn't mean that. It works on weird people, but not psychos...

 

[Jesin]

No, it does sometimes, it just depends on how psycho they are and in what way.

 

[Wisp]

Well, yeah, but you're heading into rough water when you start doing that. Mebbe it'll work, mebbe not.

 

[Jesin]

Who doesn't have some "mental disorder" these days?

 

[Kidege]

Thank you for bringing Perseus' behaviour up. I was afraid to say it too. I'm not one for personal attacks.
Go go LoR.
I want a nice forum with sensible talk.

 

[loveofreason]

In respect of the fact that the proliferation of typing threads from Perseus represent a masterwork of information gathering for specific personal research and that that research is comprehensible to only a limited number of other members, the majority of threads have been moved to their own forum in the Inner Sanctum category, where they are still accessible to those interested posters, and may be added to.

A handful of the (in my opinion) strongest and most representative threads remain here as examples of Perseus' contribution to Typing.



I'll take the opportunity to add that I would expect any member with an inquisitorial urge of the same scale to make themselves a place in the Inner Sanctum .

 

[Wisp]

Cool. Thanks LoR.

 

[Olba]

Ah, finally someone did something about this weirdo.

I was already getting annoyed by the fact that Perseus seems to refer to his own typing in pretty much every single post he makes. This makes the posts unreadable because to fully comprehend his meaning you would need to check all of the stuff he has said about it, making his posts a total waste of time.

And what's more, some of his explanations are posted on his private blog, to which he would link people. I find this to be annoying and nothing but a way of getting lots of visitors to one's site. Which, in turn, is kinda pathetic.

 

[Raison D'etre]

"We are all weird in our own weird way"

Anyways, this is starting to get kind of mean.

 

[Wisp]

Olba, that WAS a little blunt...

 

[Ermine]

I find it annoying that he keeps on rambling about the animal typing system when it's obvious that this forum is MBTI based.

 

[Wisp]

That too. And linking MBTI to animals and moving the traits from each both ways.

 

[Decaf]

The MBTI is designed to work on everyone assuming whatever issue they might have doesn't preclude self-realization. The descriptions attached to the four letter codes, however, describe people of that type who have developed the ability to easily access their auxiliary function (for us, Extraverted Intuition). People of a type who have a poorly developed auxiliary function are not described because type descriptions are predominantly positive and the behaviors associated with function specialization appear immature. For those who specialize (to the exclusion of their own functions) in introverted thinking often spend far more time processing their ideas than gathering information (a perceiving behavior). The end result is a complex and cohesive theory that may or may not be applicable to the world as a whole. Rather it has a clear "selective comparison" to the environment. When thinking tells intuition to intuit, you only see what you want to see. Many of us grew up behaving that way and through the course of experiencing life decided to exercise "unfettered intuition". The result is that suddenly we became creative, rather than just problem solvers.

Its arguable whether any of us are really responsible for choosing to develop our secondary function because we all have different entry costs. Those who appear to have everything to lose by using something other than their dominant function may never build up enough reason to expand, or may do so later in life.

 

[Decaf]

I would like to add that function specialization can come with benefits too even if it doesn't make living much easier. An extreme example of specialization is autism. Now this is based on my theory, so it may be inaccurate but I see autism as someone who's dominant function is introverted and their extraverted function is physically unaccessible. They see everything that goes on around them, but they are unable to apply anything that goes on inside themselves to their environment. Without that process of trial and error (trial requires judging, error requires perceiving) they have trouble making sense of things. However, with such a single minded focus on their dominant introverted function some develop "savant" characteristics that go along with extremely advanced development of a single function. Anyway, it just a theory.

 

[Raison D'etre]

I just realized Perseus hasn't been on lately.

 

[Wisp]

Mmmmm... I'm okay with that.

He DID get (effectively) his own board...