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There are 4 or 5 archetypes of each type

Pizzabeak

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There are. As in, this is a claim I've seen numerous times but you can't substantiate it in anyway.

I don't know any ENTJ online or in person and there aren't any here. They're kind of like ENTP except Te instead of Ti, and its first not second. Then you could see all similarities or differences.

As an INTP all I did was synthesize abstract information that I have no direct or indirect experience with at all, to construct a model of reality like math. Then you could see how life starts make sense and if you're on the right path. Still, understanding this realm in a quantum mechanical manner means one thing. You need an engineer's style of thinking to apply physics and math. It's just a way of doing it. You can't really dispute the notion of multiple archetypes for each type. I will explain it all henceforth, and do it in the next post. I only put this one here as an intro because Hadoblado asked me to.
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So you don't need further explanation on an intro to discuss and give input, or do I have to present more for you to get a buzz and arouse your head with new information? It's not a hard one to follow I think, it is an established idea in MBTI already.

As an aside, where's a good source to get additional info on the other derivatives of personality theory? There's like socionics and my enneagram type. Also there's Pod'lair and my mojo, which could have been the INTP one (Xai'nyy), which is basically the same thing. I'm working on doing more research just in case, so I should have done it that way in the first place again more or less because it'd be easier to present an argument. MBTI could be a stupid idea to bicker over, there isn't much money to be made in the market for it, unless you have a neurobiology degree from an accredited university.
 

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go on. :confused:
 

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Don't mess up the place with thoughts you're not willing to expand upon.

If you can't be arsed why should we? Please edit the OP to include something about what you mean, or I'm deleting the thread.
 

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It was just my idea. As I've already said, most agree MBTI is BS but within Jung's original writings there's still room for hypothesis and interpreting not to mention criticizing, what he said.

I don't know certain types in person so I'm trying to understand the main ideas to say more about it then move on to more advanced topics resulting from it such as the brain and how it's connected to reality's processes of the universe and life within it as biology and physics/chemistry so it could be represented as computer code and programming controlling how things interact with one another.

For example they say ENTJs get along with INTPs, in which this is a forum, so I typed as one but could be another type. I don't know any ENTJs online or in person but sometimes if there's someone and I wonder what the magnetism of the interaction is it could be the vibe and functions so it's just that. My reality is pretty non existent. I just construct the information and put it together to induce conclusion. It's not only meant to represent reality as accurate as possible with bird's eye view, using an epic amount of information, you can tell reality could be a simulation which can also be an illusion.

That's another way of saying there could be around 2456 personality types. Someone else already said it so I might just start posting link sources. I think it was Big 5. Ne was never overrated so it's a result of that. Somewhere on this forum it was briefly discussed, so I might then read more about it to come back and add to it. For example there could be a big ENTP and a small one, except there's no explanation for that besides "hyper realism", as a concept, which would include brain-mind complex differences or ability, and not just experience, but differing favoring of the functions in any and whatever order. I can give you a chance to digest it before I return with additional explanation. As a topic, I was only wondering if anyone else heard the idea then was influenced by it or had experience/criticism for it.

Excuse my mannerisms, I just had a vision this conversation would go different. I still need to read the bulk of Jung's work regarding personality, and his stuff on dreams like the Red Book, and he did a book on UFOs too. I wish I had more time to read as well but fuck it, it's too hard with a busy schedule, if anything. I need to look up more of his interactions with Freud and the other Swiss psychologists back then in the psychotherapy scene, it may have been important in determing the extent of their academic scholarly pursuits.
 

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I put an intro inside the first post, didn't need a mod to edit apparently.

The sex of the person doesn't matter, female INTPs could be different than males. There'd be a whole ideology with it. Girls are notoriously more uncommon and rare in the social sphere of network communication. Except that's becoming passè, so it's less unusual to see more types around, I wanted originally to type people without having them take a test, so I got good enough to where I could diagnose and know the type without much effort, to save time.

You could still know and don't have to lose when it comes to con men and stressful social situations like a job interview. Don't be a pussy, add to my thread here. I don't like one page threads, need to see if my ideas are worth anything or not. It's better than writing a book, where it takes longer and you need to hire an editor with a whole company to make it. It's sexier that way, like J, but there's two, P, then you see how situations get messy bad real fast and how to interpret an argument with manipulation. There's a book about how to spot someone telling a lie and the first topic in the first chapter was about MBTI types. So you can see, it's actually becoming more mainstream, and I'd argue that it's a science, and there's a method to it that makes it more an exact art.
 

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You can divide the population into as many types as you want. It's a matter of how many variables you split it on.
 

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In psychology, this sort of thing is often explored using factor analysis. This is how the big5 came about, but notably, MBTI tests tend to do garbage when measured this way.

Factor analysis allows you to make theoretical predictions about what items are weighted to predict what. If you want your idea to be taken seriously, one way is to:
- make a pen and paper test to determine people's type according to your model
- subject this test to factor analysis and see whether you're able to predict the number and nature of the factors that emerge

From my perspective, I generally want personality tests to make this grade before I consider them relevant. For your test, since MBTI doesn't make this grade and you're intending on complicating it further, I would guess that your model won't either.
 

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What are the 4-5 archetypes of INFP?
 

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What are the 4-5 archetypes of INFP?
I don't know, but there are some websites that have some info on it already like, say, Big5 or other MBTI test sites with their own thing and spin to it. There are basically males and females, then people of all backgrounds and differences so any kind of person in a niche will exist.

INFP are like ENFP except introverted, so they're smaller except there can be big ones too. So they could be into art, even creating stuff themselves. They are the "normal people", kind of like INTP except more feeling oriented than science or thought (Fi instead of Ti). If you look at it, you can make a clear discernment.
 
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