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The Explosion of Bullshit Jobs

crippli

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What are they to do otherwise? I sorta doubt these are able to figure out things to do on their own.
 
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if i was some guy with power i would unneploy all my paperwork workforce and give them the task of making something as beautiful as this (as example)

http://pinkiswhite.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Pink_is_White_Book_1_Lilly_and_White_web_.pdf

and it doesn't matter weather u like it or not
but this is work, and this is creating and it is fucking cool

i mean, think of it
anyone with an average intelligence can learn about arts
anyone can do arts, anyone can learn basic code and make weird ass shit art
or fancy art
or weird ass shitty apps
and still more important than paperwork and fullfiling
 

Cognisant

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I work in government and there's a lot of "organizational overhead" people writing reports, auditing, planning, doing the "work" they need to do before they can do any actual work and a lot of it is pointless, reports for managers that don't read them for example.

The totalitarian communism of the Tau in Warhammer 40k appeals to me.
https://youtu.be/kXn1GGfcUQY
 

Pyropyro

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I really think countries should focus on generating and encouraging start-ups rather than create useless jobs. Start-ups tend to be lean and the use of each employee counts.

The totalitarian communism of the Tau in Warhammer 40k appeals to me.
https://youtu.be/kXn1GGfcUQY
Weaboo communism is no match for the all-consuming NOM NOM of the Tyranids.
 
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It's gotten to a point where in my work, I'm basically a consultant who engages and manages sub-consultants. It's so convoluted that I often have to hire a sub-consultant to advise me on what other sub-consultants I should engage to give me advice/write reports. What's worse is that this is the norm and it's only getting more convoluted. :facepalm:

Such is the reality of increased specialisation amid rampant over-legislation :ahh:
 

Cognisant

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Weaboo communism is no match for the all-consuming NOM NOM of the Tyranids.
*laughs conspiratorially*
People might think I go with the Necrons but I actually used to collect Tyranids.

Back on topic, there seems to be an ever increasing number of industries that exist to make money for the sake of making money, we live in a time where much more money is spent on marketing than product development, when retailers stock more cheap crap than thing people actually need.
 
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This has been a question I've been thinking for quite some time while I try figure to figure out what the f* (sry for the language) should I do with my life. I really don't want to end up working endless hours every week just to keep the endless cash generation machine running.

Luckily I've been messing with ethereum this past year and the gains from this might make it so that I can do whatever I want as money might no longer be a concern (so whatever I end up chosing wont be in pursuit of money). I really think that either ethereum or other blockchain are the solution to this problem in the long run (which is why I'll probably be developing stuff on that) as everything is always exposed and any and all meaningless things on the network will be exposed and cut off.

Also, the what will people do with their time if not working question is, in my view, complete bullshit as I would be happy to fill my time with plenty of stuff without boredom and some would even be productive ;)

I loved the video btw.

PS: I registered just to answer here xD
 

Cognisant

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Welcome to the real Hotel California, you can log in but you can never leave.

I've been buying ethereum too.
 

Kuu

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Back on topic, there seems to be an ever increasing number of industries that exist to make money for the sake of making money, we live in a time where much more money is spent on marketing than product development, when retailers stock more cheap crap than thing people actually need.
Corporatism has taken us to this madness where the corporate machine just feeds itself, it's inhuman. This retarded free-for-all race to the bottom has got to end. We need a command economy so that resources are allocated to what actually matters.

Pointless jobs need to be destroyed and people retrained into useful stuff. Or at least into stuff that's not soul-sucking.

But that's never gonna happen. Who's gonna *pay* for all the retraining? You can't give people free shit! That's... that's... s o c i a l i s m. Let them just starve to death and then we'll roll out the robots...
 

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The frustrating thing is this is already a robots problem, I'm talking about the videos on youtube that make revenue by being watched by bots, it's literally (at least) two computers working together to produce nothing and somebody's getting paid for it.
 

Kuu

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Well bot fraud is not a new thing, been going on for ages. The whole advertising business is fucked in too many ways to count.

But I guess parasitism is definitely growing as a lifestyle for those with access to the requisite technologies as they become more advanced and ubiquitous.

I don't know if there's much more to say on the matter... So what's in store for the future? What can we do about it?
 

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most people expect to get paid just by working and showing up. thousands of these idiots work in the government/non-private sector increasing the public expenditure.

They don't understand revenue and wages comes from sales of goods and services.
 

Serac

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most people expect to get paid just by working and showing up. thousands of these idiots work in the government/non-private sector increasing the public expenditure.

They don't understand revenue and wages comes from sales of goods and services.
I was going to say that they will soon be replaced by machines, but I forgot that most of these people are employed just for sake for having government employees. People who look at papers and move them from one drawer into another, sit in committee meetings to decide whether they should use blue pens or black, that kind of thing.
 
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The frustrating thing is this is already a robots problem, I'm talking about the videos on youtube that make revenue by being watched by bots, it's literally (at least) two computers working together to produce nothing and somebody's getting paid for it.
There's this band called Vulfpeck who tricked spotify with an album called sleepyfy
it contains 10 songs of 31 seconds each of pure silence
they basically told their fans to play the album on loop every night after going to sleep
so they would make money per click and use it for a tour

in 7 weeks they collected around 20.000 dollars; spotify pays you around 0.0002 - 0.007 per play

i'm trying to see if i can achieve something similar
the problem is that they already had a huge fanbase
 

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I think just giving people money doesn't make the problem better, but worse. That said, I have seen that guy on TV before on Charlie Rose and I think he is legit. He's an anarchist, but don't know what kind. He believes in action, and that's a nobel goal.
 

Rook

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Populace at large encouraged to follow university courses, so a great number follow ones with little intellectual/practical substance instead of, say learning a mechanical/culinary trade (courses cheaper, merit based system, immediate ability to go it on your own as long as resources there). So grads of easier courses(excluding ofc c's that have immediate practical app, like librarian(?) nurse bar guitar player etc.) expect jobs after going through mostly by rote compared to innovation.
Not saying they cant be usefull, just that they might have learned the rules by which the macro + micro system which they will be employed within are constructed, instead of how to create systems on their own impulse. Ad to this the above of useless jobs for les usefull degrees and viola... Ma's baked a caked, Jimmy boy.

Fuck, just looking at the already modern world where I grew up in compared to now this day, housewife profit-sharing bakeries rare rare rare. Corp bakeries where buns sometimes taste like mothballs. From me parent's day, roadhouses gone, corp drive thrus for busy folk. Drive-ins gone, corp cinemas in mall caves.

Amazon etc in murica can be used as example, though never been there so dont go qouting me here.

So... simple industries where folk offer things to the public which corp does not. Innovation from the plebs. Creating useful jobs. But here at least, looking at property/rent rates, Tax Tax, labour laws that circle the idealized anus pit of purely ideological communism, crime to some extent in many though not all areas... who can blame folk for not innovating, choosing rather the easy path of global corp substandardry...

Boosting the industrial sectors also a must for jobs that create something...

Well, in a by-the-rules stream all the fish swim one way, bashing against the rusting cans of timewaste paperwork and discarded corruption-rife nappys of "ultra uber regulation for the public good and fuck the results on reality".

Here so many people live as poor entrepeneurs, selling clothes on the street from small factos, buying fruit n veg unwanted by local corp and global corp and selling them under acacias, robbing money transit vans etc etc...

The non corp innovative "never been done before, Bob" bussinesses do exist mainly in larger cities and heavy tourist areas, cause that's where the money is. Starting a roadhouse in a small town might put ye in the poor house, cause beef aint mahala and most people around you pinch pennies just to feed their families, or spend so much on the boozes that the Irish would blush and the Russians nod.
 
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