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Jaico

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What do you think about student councils? It doesn't matter if you were in it, if you had one at your school, or whatever - I'd just like to hear people's opinions on student councils...what they are, what people's perceptions of them are, what people think of the members of council, what they should be, what councils should represent, what people like about them (if anything at all), and so on. I'll start...

Alright...here we go. I think student councils, if implemented properly, would be a wonderful thing for the students and for the school. There's a lot that they could do - act as liaisons between the general members of the school and the administration, serve as voices for the students (i.e. if courses needed to be changed, or if a 'go-green' initiative was called for), pump up "school spirit" through dances/pep rallies/what-have-you, and all that jazz. I believe that although there should be organization and a visible command structure, council ought to be fairly open to new ideas and on the whole, be accepting and non-judgmental - even to ideas that might sound far-fetched. General meetings and "board" meetings should be open to everyone who wants to attend, and everyone should be given a fair chance to speak; ideally, the atmosphere would be one where everyone feels comfortable speaking their mind and all (constructive) criticism would be respected.

As you can probably guess, my student council certainly didn't live up to those standards...don't get me wrong - council members worked hard, but...the council at my school only really did one of those things - pump up school spirit. I remember that people always asked me, "what does council do?", and unfortunately, the only thing I could tell them was, "dances and pep rallies". Looking back, I see that our council wasn't too innovative when it came to establishing its goals. I'm not bitter about it, but...there was so much more that could have been done.

I was on council for my three years in high school, and it didn't change one bit while I was in it. The people in it didn't seem to care about trying to help the student population in ways other than raising school spirit, and a lot of times, the opinion of one person in power would dictate policy, without any input or insight from others - the group feeling wasn't really one that let people speak freely or encouraged critical thinking. Trying to make large changes to how things were run was a big taboo...student council felt more like an old boy's club rather than a tool that should be used to improve the school. I think that this was really the thing that got me feeling pretty miffed about council in my third year...

I guess it's not entirely council's fault - teachers and students wouldn't really approach the student council with things that they thought needed changing...there was always a disconnect between council and students. The gap really perpetuated itself, because neither side was really trying to get in contact with the other, so our council essentially became the school spirit council...

So, my question to you (aside from all that other stuff in the beginning) is:

Student governments - are they effective at being representatives for the general student population (if they should be that, at all)? Or is that an impossible task, given the social conditions and nature of high school and high school students?
 
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I didn't read all of your post, sorry. I will say that I think student councils are nice but they have no power compared to things like school-boards and things like that. School-board people are not students, some may be teachers or parents but as those 2 things they are somewhat disconnected from the students/kids themselves. Even school-boards have little power compared to mandates and other coucils and institutions. Its like people forget they were once kids/students or something or they just view people as property or liabilities or things to be controlled.

getting sidetracked. Sometimes it just seems like everything is a popularity contest or a game of who has more money or what status of position. In the end everyone are slaves to the system/other people and nothing gets changed. This seems to happen on many levels besides just schools. I have no experience with any of this just insight. Whether my insight is good or not I don't know
 

Artifice Orisit

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In Australia student councils are basically a social club for teacher's pets.

They're the only ones who apply for it.
 
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In Australia student councils are basically a social club for teacher's pets.

They're the only ones who apply for it.
probably about the same in the US, although everything here has a tendency to turn into some form of popularity contest....hahaha school in general here
 

walfin

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It's good fun for wannabe politicians. I think the campaigning's the most important part of it. Most students' councils have too little power (and for good reason, too).

I never really felt particularly attached to school, anyway.
 

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I always got pushed into it by my peers as a student, and to be honest, it was a boring waste of time. We didn't accomplish much. As a teacher, I would say the same. The student council was just a way for the kids to get out of class.
 
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a student council is a dishonest representation of the school, actually rather indicative of school's mentality of the good student - not a hint of free thought.

it is actually kind of similar to the 'democracy' in place in today's society, the people make the decisions - but the government decide which people. but hell, it is school's job to prepare us for the big bad world, they sure do that :mad: bastards!
 
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kind of like how "we" vote for a president but that only shows the electoral college how we want them to vote:p Anytime "the people" vote for a proposition or referendum that "they" don't agree with it gets denied.
*Hello? Freedom? .... *beep beep beep* the system you are trying to change is not listening, please hang up and try again later*:p
 

Jaico

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Sadly, I agree with everything that's been said here...

How do you guys think student councils should be? How should they be changed? Who should be more responsible for what council does - teachers or students? Just some questions I'd like to talk about, because this topic's been in my mind for quite some time now...:p
 
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i think a student concil should consist of a:

Teachers pet (these can elect between each other)
Underachieving smart kid (this will have to be picked by teacher, pick the most artsy/arrogant one *points at oneself*:D)
one member from each social group (emo, jock, bimbo etc)
a delinquent paid in cigarettes (random chav caught fucking in the bike shed with a packet of cigarettes in hispocket)

no one member shall take charge, i decision is made when all agree
 
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