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serac takes issue with climate activism

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It has strengthened my belief that viruses, bacteria, and fungi are orders of magnitude more of an existential threat than eg climate change. School kids like Greta Thunberg have to start spinning the cogwheels in their brains about how to embed infectious decease into a social justice framework
 

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as much of a critic I am of the concept of Greta Thunberg – Times person of the year, I think it's commendable that she in her twitter feed issues supportive messages to the thousands of people affected by the virus, and voices concern over a global pandemic as a threat to humanity parallel to climate change. This shows that she is indeed preoccupied with the well-being of humanity and is not, as I believed, just a climate-change agitpropist.

SIKE she never did such a thing , the whole twitter feed is just "climate this and climate that", and pics of various stupid-ass kids walking around with climate-change banners
 

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i mean climate change projections pretty comfortable estimate that the number of climate refugees will be will into 7 figures by 2050 if glacial melting continues at the rate it is now.

not sure why you're so bitter about a teenage activist who happens to care about this in a thread about a pandemic but man does it seem insecure.

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the only reason you'd think greta's climate change activism makes her a demagogue would be that political decision-making is currently out of touch with ecological science on climate change and its effects. If calling for action based on science rather than corporate interest makes someone a demagogue, then the political system is profoundly sick
 

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If calling for action based on science rather than corporate interest makes someone a demagogue, then the political system is profoundly sick
Actions based on claims that political opinions and positions are science is indeed demagoguery. Every attempt to model our climate falls woefully short. The East Anglia model has been used for about 15 years to inform government decision-making; it stopped working about 14 years ago. All of its claims, and every claim that came before it, have proven wrong. There were supposed to be tens of millions of climate refugees five years ago, Madison Avenue in New York was supposed to have become an underwater wonder ten years ago, and most of Florida was supposed to have disappeared fifteen years ago.

This isn't as bad as the Imperial College of London model of COVID-19, but it's close. The lockdowns resulting from the model's false predictions will ultimately kill more people than the virus. Both, though, were successful in causing unneeded panic. Lockdowns did increase the power of authoritarian regimes. We knew enough about respiratory viruses to catch the fact that the models were wrong before they were released.

Global glacier volume is unchanged; it's only the retreating glaciers that are given press, according to the world's best glaciologists who are, unsurprisingly, located in Iceland. Sea ice is unchanged since the 1970s. Polar bear populations keep going up, and the nature of greenhouse gases reflect back into space more energy than received means that there is no future hockey stick.
 
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