Round 2: Describe your ideal INTPforum

[Coolydudey]

Many people have periodically complained about the forum. I guess my ideal would be more intellectual, more serious (depending on the part of the forum and discussion), and even smarter. Basically looking for a larger amount of challenging intellectual engagement and debate than there is now... Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place?

In any case, the forum is a nice getaway from reality.

 

[Fukyo]

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=16020

 

[Coolydudey]

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=16020

I knew something was wrong (especially given I'd posted in that thread )... Oh well. Might as well move it or something

 

[BigApplePi]

I like a forum that:
1. Has a little bit of everything for everyone.
2. Doesn't go too far in any one direction.
3. Has someone who will fill in with new and creative ideas when they are missing for awhile.
4. Is generally warm and accommodating to everyone.
5. Is cautionary with deviants.

 

[Architect]

I think this forum is pretty good. The difference is I would prefer that we all use real personalities (either pictures or real names - pictures is good enough) and reveal our genders and types on the post sidebar.

 

[BigApplePi]

I think this forum is pretty good. The difference is I would prefer that we all use real personalities (either pictures or real names - pictures is good enough) and reveal our genders and types on the post sidebar.

Interesting theoretical possibility. One of the things I like about the forum though is the unveiling of who a poster is ... not that I succeed. By talking with someone, we gradually find out by what their interests are, who they are. How many posters here are so developed that they know who they are or even their type? I can propose my type as INTP, but am I or do I even know what a type is? The answers to that are forum topics.

By not knowing a poster initially I reveal my own biases to myself. By assuming a poster is who or what they say they are, I introduce the possibilility of a false premise and a bias. Still it could be tried as an option, but what will happen to their freedom? Should this forum be like Facebook?

 

[Brontosaurie]

I guess my ideal would be more intellectual, more serious (depending on the part of the forum and discussion), and even smarter.

i am of opposite opinion.

my ideal forum would be flightier, more associative and fluid. less in-depth, less rigid and with shorter posts containing only crucial points that serve as launch pads for further thought. there's no need to be formal and thorough when agreement regarding the matter of debate is exception rather than norm.

 

[Architect]

my ideal forum would be flightier, more associative and fluid. less in-depth, less rigid and with shorter posts containing only crucial points that serve as launch pads for further thought. there's no need to be formal and thorough when agreement regarding the matter of debate is exception rather than norm.

So like Facebook or Google+ then. "Like" button anyone?

 

[Brontosaurie]

So like Facebook or Google+ then. "Like" button anyone?

an MBTI oriented facebook with a limited, familiar userbase and bulletin board format.

sure. i don't see the use in "like" though. nor in groups or other organizational tools beyond threads. and there's not a terrible lot of launch pads on facebook. i guess this amounts to no significant similarity with facebook beyond the tendency toward shorter posts.

in my view this forum has a communication problem which stems from the fact that many users (me included) frequently write overly elaborate, formal posts while the recipients (me included) usually only grant them a cursory glance and then immediately proceed to reply in a similar manner. it's covert monologue, non-discussion, redundancy.

i have no experience with google+ so i can't compare with that.

 

[Jennywocky]

I think this forum is pretty good. The difference is I would prefer that we all use real personalities (either pictures or real names - pictures is good enough) and reveal our genders and types on the post sidebar.

So what purposes would that serve, exactly? (Serious question -- I'm just having trouble wording it in a better way.)

sure. i don't see the use in "like" though. nor in groups or other organizational tools beyond threads. and there's not a terrible lot of launch pads on facebook. i guess this amounts to no significant similarity with facebook beyond the tendency toward shorter posts.

I actually make use of the Like on other forums as a way to indicate tone/positioning, so that if I write a rebuttal to someone's post, it does't mean I'm necessarily antagonistic toward the post (for example). Virtual community can sometimes give wrong impressions due to the limited number of dimensions that can be conveyed naturally... and I don't really feel like having to Copy-Paste a disclaimer into my posts to say, "Thank you for that post, my following criticisms are not meant in a way that disregards my appreciation, blah blah icky blah."

My experience with Groups is that they never really get used. Everyone posts in them for a week, then they die. Part of the problem in vBull has been the implementation -- if they shared the capability for threads in the same way the regular forum does, then they'd be used more.. but then they could just be subforums.

in my view this forum has a communication problem which stems from the fact that many users (me included) frequently write overly elaborate, formal posts while the recipients (me included) usually only grant them a cursory glance and then immediately proceed to reply in a similar manner. it's covert monologue, non-discussion, redundancy.

I have the same observation, actually.

But I think that ties into the psychology of the individual members. Basically people who have a tendency to sit around and think about everything to a detailed degree, so conversation often becomes finding a hook in someone else's post, then dumping what you've already thought into your post -- essentially a bunch of loosely connected individual pre-thought-out processes triggered by hooks.

i have no experience with google+ so i can't compare with that.

My impression of Google+ is that it never took off and is kind of dead in the water.

 

[Brontosaurie]

But I think that ties into the psychology of the individual members. Basically people who have a tendency to sit around and think about everything to a detailed degree, so conversation often becomes finding a hook in someone else's post, then dumping what you've already thought into your post -- essentially a bunch of loosely connected individual pre-thought-out processes triggered by hooks.

very good description.


possibly, the flaw is that the digital text format prompts us to overlook the social aspect (extraverting, taking turns etc.), hoping we've found some refuge and solace for the Ti while in reality, we're just talking to an imaginary audience. to some degree.

from this follows that we should display more Ne and less Ti.

 

[DelusiveNinja]

Honestly, I don't mind the formal structure of the forum. In fact, it's probably best that we preserve and kindle this ability to write/ type formally especially in this era where people use abbreviations that may very well end up encompassing it's own language separate from English in the future. As a teen, I think it's important to know and practice proper written and verbal communication skills as it can come in handy in college. I am not sure whether this is a trivial pursuit or not yet, but I guess it can't hurt and even if it turns out it is trivia I would have done it anyway.

 

[r4ch3l]

in my view this forum has a communication problem which stems from the fact that many users (me included) frequently write overly elaborate, formal posts while the recipients (me included) usually only grant them a cursory glance and then immediately proceed to reply in a similar manner. it's covert monologue, non-discussion, redundancy.

I see myself doing it and I just...can't....stop. It's interesting seeing it mirrored in other INTPs and finally understanding how others get overwhelmed and confused by communicating with me.

I actually make use of the Like on other forums as a way to indicate tone/positioning, so that if I write a rebuttal to someone's post, it does't mean I'm necessarily antagonistic toward the post (for example). Virtual community can sometimes give wrong impressions due to the limited number of dimensions that can be conveyed naturally... and I don't really feel like having to Copy-Paste a disclaimer into my posts to say, "Thank you for that post, my following criticisms are not meant in a way that disregards my appreciation, blah blah icky blah."

I agree with this. There's a lot of (sometimes intense) debate on this forum that I believe could benefit from, as you said, an added contextual dimension. This forum is interesting and kind of hilarious to me because the tone is consistently very blunt and could come off as rude but then we're all still reaching out and trying to connect and lurkin' all day erryday. Like a bunch of grouchy old regulars at the neighborhood bar. [not a dig, I think this is partially why I like it here.]

 

[Melkor]

Smoke. Steel. Shadow.

An empty plain laden with bloodied corpses and broken dreams, riddled with privers of tears and undone promises.

The only buildings that stand are the twisted metal frames that survived the inferno, lining the horizon like upturned spiders.

And I the only survivor, forever trapped in the realm I voided of all colour, the lone surveyor of the red dawn. FOREEEVER.


Purrrrrrr.