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LucasM

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I have made some posts here so far. Am I intp or infp? I used to be very sure I was INTP but now I am not sure at all. I am starting to think that I was always INFP, but that I developed my T strongly more as a self-defense mechanism than anything. So that with reason, I can will these feelings away, and not get hurt as much when I disappoint. Because in my heart of hearts, under layer upon layer of protection, I want to love.

But that is life, and life is confusion.

[edit] I was just confused for a while. Only I can answer for myself, so sorry. I guess I can't just box myself in a box, when in reality, I am in all boxes. Just some boxes more than others. Darn.
 

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I was just confused for a while. Only I can answer for myself, so sorry. I guess I can't just box myself in a box, when in reality, I am in all boxes. Just some boxes more than others. Darn.

So that's what your avatar is. ;)

Don't worry, you'll figure it out. It might be borderline, you know. INxP.

I shall now give up on trying to be helpful and comforting because I'm not very good at it.
 

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Well, I've questioned my typing too. Only by comparing my thoughts, feelings, experiences with others posted here can I be reasonably satisfied with my typing. There is still always room for doubt. Especially as I am so adept at self-delusion... but I figure if I'm INFP then so are a dozen other posters here with whom I share much perception.

How do you relate to what is expressed by other people here? Especially read Decaf's posts - the repeated clarity with which he describes psychological processes of the INTP has unraveled many a personal mystery for me.

Your poetry has been spot on... it's not that INTPs don't want to love, it's just we can't quite believe... it is an irrational state after all, and beyond our analysis... on top of which, as Tekton expressed, the INTP is ultimately fragile in that regard. Being emotionally vulnerable and expressive is mind-bendingly difficult.

Something strange seems to have happened for the INTP when it comes to emotional involvement. The child-like nature of the emotions aren't equipped to survive the sophistication of many other types. It is our ultimate weakness and can be guarded to the point we deny it's very existence in order to protect it.

I don't know if we ever grow up.

But Fi is a different thing. I think Fi gives an inner certainty that the INTP lacks. Fi confers confidence in identity. An INFP knows their values, lives their values, is their values. An INTP is easily lost.
 

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But Fi is a different thing. I think Fi gives an inner certainty that the INTP lacks. Fi confers confidence in identity. An INFP knows their values, lives their values, is their values. An INTP is easily lost.

Yeah, the fact that you're in confusion convinces me that you're INTP. The Ti is a lot more content to speculate while the Fi makes value judgments and lives accordingly.
 

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I have made some posts here so far. Am I intp or infp? I used to be very sure I was INTP but now I am not sure at all. I am starting to think that I was always INFP, but that I developed my T strongly more as a self-defense mechanism than anything. So that with reason, I can will these feelings away, and not get hurt as much when I disappoint. Because in my heart of hearts, under layer upon layer of protection, I want to love.

But that is life, and life is confusion.

This is what happened for me... my dad is an INTP, and he's very, very, VERY smart... and extremely quick. He, of course, was always annoyed when I used to over-react to every little thing... he likes to tease a lot.

...yes, some of it (most of it) was due to the fact that he would tease me when I was extremely emotional or stressed out already... but some of it was me being hypersensitive. So over the years, I really improved my quick wit (& etc.)... as well as my logical thinking. My mom is an ENFJ, but she's been married to my dad for a very long time, plus she was very academically-focused in school, so she has a very developed thinking function (not sure whether introverted or extraverted, but definitely thinking). So both of my parents are very logical. When I was younger and trying to argue, they would both continually tell me, "Don't even bother, you can't out-argue me." And now... I can. :D

Well, I can out-argue my dad, because he actually (most of the time) admits defeat when he's wrong, unlike my mom. That's why she's really so hard to beat-- she won't listen if you don't agree. :rolleyes: ...which is lame, because I'm now more logical than she is, and I frequently find myself pointing out her flawed logic when she's emotional and ranting, which does not go over too well. But I can't help it! My dad just wore off on me, I guess. (Not that I never use flawed logic, of course... just not nearly as much.)

Not getting hurt as much... yeah, right. (Just speaking in general here, not in reference to disappointment.) It's more about learning what is meant to hurt and what isn't. I used to not always be able to tell when someone was teasing me (my family have fabulous poker faces, something I also picked up...), so I would freak out and take it seriously... bleh. Now I'll just make a joke out of it, even if I think they're serious, and then I can dissect it later.

Disappointment... are you saying when you disappoint other people? If so... sorry, that never gets better. Sometimes, you can decide that the other person really just doesn't care, but if you know for a fact that they really are disappointed, it hurts. I read somewhere that INFPs, when faced with another's feelings of disappointment or betrayal, often feel the emotion more strongly than the other person does. This seems about right for me.

Only I can answer for myself, so sorry. I guess I can't just box myself in a box, when in reality, I am in all boxes.

The fact that you went back and added this (including an apology) says "INFP" to me. It definitely could be INTP, but it seems more indicative of INFP to me.

Obviously, everyone wants everyone else to be their type. So my perspective may not be very accurate... :p

This thread may be helpful to you. It's called "You might be an INFP if..." and it's completely hilarious. http://infp.globalchatter.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4706 If you're still confused, you should read a few pages of it--most of it is scarily accurate for me. If it doesn't hit home for you, you may have been right with your first judgement (INTP).

Also, it may be possible to change type... or it may not. But it's just a thought.

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Oh my goodness, this is freaking long! (So let's add to it, lol.) Um... so, sorry 'bout that! GRR! Why is it practically impossible for me to write a short post? Hm. Maybe 'cause I like to ramble... oh, by the way-- ... just kidding. :D
 
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So that with reason, I can will these feelings away, and not get hurt as much when I disappoint. Because in my heart of hearts, under layer upon layer of protection, I want to love.

I don't know if that makes you F. I am quite a strong T, and I feel the same way. I think it could be the T that gives us that ability to reason them away...
 

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So, have you decided? Are you INTP or INFP?
 

LucasM

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Ack! I have decided that I am 'me'. I have transcended all boundaries and I shall TRAANNSFFFORRRMM!!!!!

I am now a rock with evil eyes. :)
 

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Oh my goodness... that is possibly the most amazing-est rock I have ever seen in my life. *bows and worships amazing evil-eyed rock*
 
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