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TBerg

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As I try to learn new things and profit from it in some form or fashion, I want there to be something that gives me a glimpse of success. I have been learning to make pieces of jewelry, and only a few have sold. I have been trying to build a blog, and no one has told me it was useful or innovative. I know the positive thing to do is to keep going until you get somewhere, but there is no hint that I am going anywhere with anything. My social skills are crap, so if my product is not good, then I am sunk. I just want something to work. I just want one hint of success. Is my intellect as bad as my social skills? Is my intellect fundamentally Ill-grounded by my terrible social and emotional life? What is wrong with me?
 

Black Rose

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I can see where politics can be seen as a hobby but not really profitable except for the select few. Mostly the awareness of problems is not enough unless it leads to grassroots activism. A positive gaol is needed to be achieved by a community.

Manufacturing is mostly gone from America but some people do local manufacturing. My brother sell his chicken eggs at the town co-opt groceries store. Tiny things like saving aluminum cans or finding them is something he also does. Even without the manufacturing base some people are creating things from electronics at retail stores. Electrical engineering is still needed to maintain infrastructure. Consumerism is sort of why Occupy Wall-Street happened. Production is down and degrees create more debt than benefits. Robots may soon take service sector jobs as well. Collaboration is key but there needs to be resourses. By the 2030's immigration to the moon and mars will start. That will create lots of jobs. Software is also important. Soon virtual worlds will be the places people will meet together. The virtual goods economy will happen in the 2020's.

@Tberg

I think you need to meet people locally and do things like what my brother is doing. Maybe not the eggs part but engineering. Also here is a website about distributed virtual worlds:

https://highfidelity.io/
 

Ex-User (9086)

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Are you completely out of options, or have you barely scratched the surface?

Let's face it, you're not guaranteed to succeed and people beyond count have failed despite giving their best their whole life feeding only on hope.

You're young, aren't there any local counseling groups? Anyone to advise you? How about finding the simplest job you can get?

We aren't exactly equipped to aid you in your situation and you've been sending a number of distress calls in your posts.

All I can say, is you should shed all grandeur you've left and find someone who'll help you, or try to think of the simplest plan that has the lowest probability of failure, that will be the baseline of all your operations, on which you could build.

I think you are plenty intelligent, there's no real need to have more, maybe your pain and personal burden make it impossible to perform or think clearly? Try to judge your performance in all that, your own sanity and seek aid, tell people about your problems if you see them as serious, there's a chance someone out there may be able to help you or give you the slightest shove in the right direction. Same goes for all the extra weight, estimate the bad influences and lay them off, escape bad situations until you are better prepared.

Best of luck.
 

Inquisitor

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Dude, what's your problem? Why are you so down on yourself?
 

TBerg

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Are you completely out of options, or have you barely scratched the surface?

Let's face it, you're not guaranteed to succeed and people beyond count have failed despite giving their best their whole life feeding only on hope.

You're young, aren't there any local counseling groups? Anyone to advise you? How about finding the simplest job you can get?

We aren't exactly equipped to aid you in your situation and you've been sending a number of distress calls in your posts.

All I can say, is you should shed all grandeur you've left and find someone who'll help you, or try to think of the simplest plan that has the lowest probability of failure, that will be the baseline of all your operations, on which you could build.

I think you are plenty intelligent, there's no real need to have more, maybe your pain and personal burden make it impossible to perform or think clearly? Try to judge your performance in all that, your own sanity and seek aid, tell people about your problems if you see them as serious, there's a chance someone out there may be able to help you or give you the slightest shove in the right direction. Same goes for all the extra weight, estimate the bad influences and lay them off, escape bad situations until you are better prepared.

Best of luck.

I am socially maladapted and find it hard to work with others. Either I am obsequious or I am confrontational. It is hard for me to find any jobs that do not require some sort of skills that involve the juggling of learning a subject, relating to people, and performing tasks at the same time. I am deathly afraid of going back to such an environment where I crash and burn.

There are very few options around my sparsely populated area.

I just want to live a life independent of bosses and family.

Maybe I just have too much doubt in my psyche. Thank you for taking the time to listen. Real live people, even the best friend I supported in all her dark times, don't do that. My support system for psychological resilience is almost nonexistent.
 

onesteptwostep

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Put on sunglasses and ride a bike. Chew gum while you're at it. Extra points if you put black paint underneath your eyes. Every time someone gives you a weird glance or if you feel odd, click your tongue.
 

QuickTwist

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Well, at least you're doing something.
 

Pyropyro

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I am socially maladapted and find it hard to work with others. Either I am obsequious or I am confrontational. It is hard for me to find any jobs that do not require some sort of skills that involve the juggling of learning a subject, relating to people, and performing tasks at the same time. I am deathly afraid of going back to such an environment where I crash and burn.

There are very few options around my sparsely populated area.

I just want to live a life independent of bosses and family.

Maybe I just have too much doubt in my psyche. Thank you for taking the time to listen. Real live people, even the best friend I supported in all her dark times, don't do that. My support system for psychological resilience is almost nonexistent.

Just keep at developing TBerg. I don't know if it's a good comparison but it took me more than five years from being socially awkward to being socially awkward yet able to persuade people to see my perspective and get my clients' message across.

Willpower is finite so you must train things one at a time until such a time that they become second nature to you. You still need to train even the unsightly ones such as social norms though.

I do suggest that you improve your support system. A good support system is one of the reasons why I got the motivation to change for the better. I don't know what's the counterpart in your culture but I found good people to support me (and me support them back) at our church.
 

Analyzer

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I can see where politics can be seen as a hobby but not really profitable except for the select few. Mostly the awareness of problems is not enough unless it leads to grassroots activism. A positive gaol is needed to be achieved by a community.

Manufacturing is mostly gone from America but some people do local manufacturing. My brother sell his chicken eggs at the town co-opt groceries store. Tiny things like saving aluminum cans or finding them is something he also does. Even without the manufacturing base some people are creating things from electronics at retail stores. Electrical engineering is still needed to maintain infrastructure. Consumerism is sort of why Occupy Wall-Street happened. Production is down and degrees create more debt than benefits. Robots may soon take service sector jobs as well. Collaboration is key but there needs to be resourses. By the 2030's immigration to the moon and mars will start. That will create lots of jobs. Software is also important. Soon virtual worlds will be the places people will meet together. The virtual goods economy will happen in the 2020's.

@Tberg

I think you need to meet people locally and do things like what my brother is doing. Maybe not the eggs part but engineering. Also here is a website about distributed virtual worlds:

https://highfidelity.io/

I see a rise in specialty manufacturing in the near future perhaps. Mass manufacturing of electronics and other goods has been globalized to the point of being obsolete to make and will increasing be so with automation. But some people still want things can only be done through local experts who have been immersed in the culture of it's creation/tradition. Nobody's going to be making surfboards in Mongolia or Poland and if they do, they won't be on par to those who have lived along the coast with a tradition of surfing. This is one example.

The virtual goods economy has yet to play out in full. I am interested in how it comes to be. There's a lot of potential with disturbed networks and crypto-currencies. Engineers will do the designs but someone has to actually craft stuff. I think it's still a ways(40 years or more, if ever) before robots and machines completely render the human obsolete for manufacturing. And even if it becomes increasingly so, it will be cheaper to hire a human to fix a deck or do the plumbing. Also the robots will need to be repaired and the raw materials will need to be extracted which would be determined by humans.

Another thing is the desirability and effects of virtualism. The virtual world can be seem as an extension of the Kantian project of relying on our minds and abstractions to deal with reality. It neglects the physical world and environment which is extremely important to our cognition and understanding. There may be a virtual "blowback" or reactionary mindset to living in the cloud.
 

Puffy

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I think things like writing and jewellery aren't things you can expect to get great at in a haphazard way. If you keep writing, researching, observing other blogs and what makes them work or fail, integrating what you learn, being honest with your successes and failures, then you will be a better blogger in 5 years than you are now. Same with anything. Writing's a long-term commitment that you do win or lose, knowing you'll likely never make a living from it but doing simply because you're passionate. And that passion is what keeps people at it, past many many failures, until "Success" happens.

I feel like you're magnifying this part of the learning process (many failures) out of lack of self-confidence.

Why do you feel you need to be 'successful' to prove anything anyway? Surely you chose blogging, jewellery, for the reason that something attracted you to towards doing it? And surely making a blog, and selling pieces of custom jewellery, are achievements in themselves -- actualisations of those desires? That's great.

I think you need to identify what you really want, and do it for yourself, because you like doing it -- like Blar said, building-up slowly to acquire self-confidence; this condemning self-judgement to me feels like it's rooted in doing things as a means of proving something of your value to others, which in my experience is a motivation that rarely ends in satisfaction.
 

Inquisitor

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I am socially maladapted and find it hard to work with others. Either I am obsequious or I am confrontational. It is hard for me to find any jobs that do not require some sort of skills that involve the juggling of learning a subject, relating to people, and performing tasks at the same time. I am deathly afraid of going back to such an environment where I crash and burn.

There are very few options around my sparsely populated area.

I just want to live a life independent of bosses and family.

Maybe I just have too much doubt in my psyche. Thank you for taking the time to listen. Real live people, even the best friend I supported in all her dark times, don't do that. My support system for psychological resilience is almost nonexistent.

Moving an option?

If so, could your family chip in to support you initially while you're getting your bearings? No shame in that.
 

emmabobary

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Hey!
maybe "nothing" does actually works! :D

maybe you should take a rest, it sounds like you deserve it.
 

Foofmonger

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I am socially maladapted and find it hard to work with others. Either I am obsequious or I am confrontational. It is hard for me to find any jobs that do not require some sort of skills that involve the juggling of learning a subject, relating to people, and performing tasks at the same time. I am deathly afraid of going back to such an environment where I crash and burn.

There are very few options around my sparsely populated area.

I just want to live a life independent of bosses and family.

Maybe I just have too much doubt in my psyche. Thank you for taking the time to listen. Real live people, even the best friend I supported in all her dark times, don't do that. My support system for psychological resilience is almost nonexistent.

Look at it this way.

I am socially adapted. I find it easy to work with others. I can learn whatever skill necessary, learn any subject, relate to people, and perform tasks. I do not live in a sparsely populated area. I'm a college educated white male.

And I've been unemployed and broke for three months.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Life can be hard, but just keep on learning, discovering, and attempting new things. If something isn't working for you, figure out why it isn't working, and theorize the proper changes needed to make it work.
 
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