Nature Vs Nurture

[Yodon]

I decided to post this as it been and age old question in my head for years,

Am i / we INTPs becuase we were geneically gifted this way by our parents or did they nurture us into it as we were growing up etc,

i tend to beleive the genetics due to family history , i am an orphan and had lost both my parents by the time i was 10, no one else really made a point to take care of me or guide me and for a long time i thought that may be the reason i was "different ", however through years of reading stuff and looking online i find this place and realyse im just 1 mind out of a pottential 16 that some guy theorised that exists , and the theory holds pretty well so far , anyway getting off topic,

so what do you guys think, are we born the way we are , is the last 1% of unmapped geenes in the human body the soul or mind, or are we simply just products of a very lucky turn of events in our lives.

the floor is yours

 

[Beat Mango]

Get rid of the either/or thinking, it'll be easier on your brain.

 

[Cogwulf]

This has been discussed many times and the consensus is both.

 

[Anthile]

I'm actually convinced that INTP and INTJ actually are SPO.

 

[Aiss]

At risk of getting flamed, I'll say nature is more important than nurture in determining personality (at least what MBTI recognizes as personality, enneagram and other models are a different story).

 

[Trebuchet]

I'm actually convinced that INTP and INTJ actually are SPO.

What does SPO stand for?

 

[Anthile]

What does SPO stand for?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder

 

[Cogwulf]

I'm actually convinced that INTP and INTJ actually are SPO.

I don't think so, but very extreme INTs are probably very likely to be SPO

 

[Cavallier]

As mentioned above, this has been gone over before. Let me see if I can find the thread...

Ah, here's the Thread I want. The discussion of Nature vs. Nurture comes up a lot on this thread.

Personally I think it's a little of both. Although, in reference to Anthile, people have worried about my emotional distance from people even as a child. My father once said it disturbed him that I would push my play companions away. I would quickly and visibly grow tired of them and distance myself from them. He encouraged me to be friendlier and helped me develop ways of getting alone time without actively hurting people's feelings...but this nurturing didn't make me any less INTP. I don't think I have SPD but I do think that it would probably be easy for me to go this way given the right push.

I suppose this means that I'm INTP by genetic make up and wasn't discouraged from being an INTP in my nurturing. Maybe this allowed me to become a freely formed INTP who is comfortable with this assessment of my personality.

 

[del]

"Nature through nurture" was the catchphrase on this for awhile.

 

[Beat Mango]

I'm actually convinced that INTP and INTJ actually are SPO.

Hang out in the schizoid forum for a while, or even just check it out, can almost guarantee you'll come back with your opinion changed.

 

[Aiss]

After giving the matter some thought, I wonder if it is, like some people suggested in the other thread, a preference for some traits (N/S, T/F) that is just nature part (genetics plus any biochemical influences), but their application (like Ne/Ni) is influenced by nurture.

I think I/E is pretty much independent of the other traits - notice x-whatever have the same functions in similar order, the only difference is the inward/outward focus, and they're in "pal" relationship, which makes them good friend material. I also think we're born with this tendency (although I doubt it's genetic...), or it develops really early in life.