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Peer pressure being ignored plus irrelevant, “review coming soon”. No irony or anything else, I’m writing a book finished soon that you have to pay for. Moby Dick is a huge part of it, and it’ll mostly be in there. Or, I’ll just type the rest here for free plus incite discussion. I’d expect it wouldn’t be too dissimilar from any turn out in the past.
It’s much more than: “Melville was born in New York, 1819. Moby Dick or, the Whale wasn't his first book, and he was already married with a family by the time he started writing this.
This is your typical book where you might re-evaluate your reasons for reading it, or taking time out your day to read in general, so you'll question whether you're even using the time to use the right thing, irrespective of speed reading, or knowing everything. I had to pause multiple times to look up locations on a map, which got annoying after some time. However, it helped me blossom as a person in the long run.
All you really need to know, is there's a black character on deck (hometown: Tolland County, Connecticut) also a part of the crew journeying the hunt for the white whale (Moby Dick), named Pippin, or Pip for short, in which, Jack Kerouac's final story "Pic" could be reference, which is like On the Road except in France, with a black kid and his brother as the main characters. Pip falls overboard, twice, and has a near death experience, or witnesses an Other. Stubb and the other crewmen have to sacrifice capturing a whale in order to rescue him:
<blockquote>"By the merest chance the ship itself at last rescued him; but from that hour the little negro went about the deck an idiot; such, at least, they said he was. The sea had jeeringly kept his finite body up, but drowned the infinite of his soul. Not drowned entirely, though. Rather carried down alive to wondrous depths, where strange shapes of the unwarped primal world glided to and fro before his passive eyes; and the miser-merman, Wisdom, revealed his hoarded heaps; and among the joyous, heartless, ever-juvenile eternities, Pip saw the multitudinous, God-omnipresent, coral insects, that out of the firmament of waters heaved the colossal orbs. He saw God’s foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad. So man’s insanity is heaven’s sense; and wandering from all mortal reason, man comes at last to that celestial thought, which, to reason, is absurd and frantic; and weal or woe, feels then uncompromised, indifferent as his God."</blockquote>
It's been said Moby Dick depicts poetry and philosophy in a subject that usually doesn't touch it (i.e., the whale). Pip's experience described in that paragraph is like Plato's Cave, as far as trying to reason out someone's motivation for wanting to hunt the rare white sperm whale itself. Some would say Ahab is mad, blind with rage in the first place, claiming Moby to be the devil or evil incarnate, so that he must be killed. Views on whaling were different then, in that industry, so they weren't considered endangered, and were still valuable for their oils and parmacetti. In the next chapter Ishmael has his own experience that borders on transcendence or depersonalization. He's up at night and all day long squeezing the whale sperm, in that isolated environment, lingering on the edges of daydreaming and phantasmagoria. Hypnagogia induced by near sleep deprivation:
<blockquote>"Would that I could keep squeezing that sperm for ever! For now, since by many prolonged, repeated experiences, I have perceived that in all cases man must eventually lower, or at least shift, his conceit of attainable felicity; not placing it anywhere in the intellect or the fancy; but in the wife, the heart, the bed, the table, the saddle, the fireside, the country; now that I have perceived all this, I am ready to squeeze case eternally. In thoughts of the visions of the night, I saw long rows of angels in paradise, each with his hands in a jar of spermaceti."</blockquote>
Ishamel is a biblical name from Genesis, being the son of Abraham and a slave, Hagar. Sarah, Abraham's wife, banished son and mother into the wilderness. There are many theological themes in this book (in addition to philosophy and poetry) as well, such as Jonah and the Whale. It has some of the best closing remarks I've gotten out of fiction in a long time, that I know of and can recall:
<blockquote>"and so the bird of heaven, with archangelic shrieks, and his imperial beak thrust upwards, and his whole captive form folded in the flag of Ahab, went down with his ship, which, like Satan, would not sink to hell till she had dragged a living part of heaven along with her, and helmeted herself with it."</blockquote>
Spoiler alert. Some people are familiar with the ending and know that they all die, besides Ishmael who is thrown overboard before the final encounter with the whale, and misses the event.
<blockquote>"Now small fowls flew screaming over the yet yawning gulf; a sullen white surf beat against its steep sides; then all collapsed, and the great shroud of the sea rolled on as it rolled five thousand years ago."</blockquote>
He is rescued by the Rachel, who was searching for its (her) own shipwrecked survivors, likened to Job, "And I only am escaped alone to tell thee."
I borrowed this from the library and ran out of time, unable to renew it, so I had to rent another edition and couldn't finish my reading of the Penguin I found. I finished it out using one that had chapter intros partially illustrated. I'd buy my own copy for later reference and use, and am quite excited to delve into his other works.”
Which is to just say “the opposite” or what someone didn’t say yet for either a lack of time or a paywall. I know most people haven’t read it, or did in high school and we’re required to write a paper about it so don’t talk about it nor want to, whether it’s pointless or not. At that point people seek other people out to get their perspective instead, presuming they not only did everything you did and/or plus or minus more just to get your perspective, or just plain didn’t and were different altogether meaning by logic your viewpoint is wanted or allowed for some reason, for want of some reputation or more money possibly. Thoughts?
It’s much more than: “Melville was born in New York, 1819. Moby Dick or, the Whale wasn't his first book, and he was already married with a family by the time he started writing this.
This is your typical book where you might re-evaluate your reasons for reading it, or taking time out your day to read in general, so you'll question whether you're even using the time to use the right thing, irrespective of speed reading, or knowing everything. I had to pause multiple times to look up locations on a map, which got annoying after some time. However, it helped me blossom as a person in the long run.
All you really need to know, is there's a black character on deck (hometown: Tolland County, Connecticut) also a part of the crew journeying the hunt for the white whale (Moby Dick), named Pippin, or Pip for short, in which, Jack Kerouac's final story "Pic" could be reference, which is like On the Road except in France, with a black kid and his brother as the main characters. Pip falls overboard, twice, and has a near death experience, or witnesses an Other. Stubb and the other crewmen have to sacrifice capturing a whale in order to rescue him:
<blockquote>"By the merest chance the ship itself at last rescued him; but from that hour the little negro went about the deck an idiot; such, at least, they said he was. The sea had jeeringly kept his finite body up, but drowned the infinite of his soul. Not drowned entirely, though. Rather carried down alive to wondrous depths, where strange shapes of the unwarped primal world glided to and fro before his passive eyes; and the miser-merman, Wisdom, revealed his hoarded heaps; and among the joyous, heartless, ever-juvenile eternities, Pip saw the multitudinous, God-omnipresent, coral insects, that out of the firmament of waters heaved the colossal orbs. He saw God’s foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad. So man’s insanity is heaven’s sense; and wandering from all mortal reason, man comes at last to that celestial thought, which, to reason, is absurd and frantic; and weal or woe, feels then uncompromised, indifferent as his God."</blockquote>
It's been said Moby Dick depicts poetry and philosophy in a subject that usually doesn't touch it (i.e., the whale). Pip's experience described in that paragraph is like Plato's Cave, as far as trying to reason out someone's motivation for wanting to hunt the rare white sperm whale itself. Some would say Ahab is mad, blind with rage in the first place, claiming Moby to be the devil or evil incarnate, so that he must be killed. Views on whaling were different then, in that industry, so they weren't considered endangered, and were still valuable for their oils and parmacetti. In the next chapter Ishmael has his own experience that borders on transcendence or depersonalization. He's up at night and all day long squeezing the whale sperm, in that isolated environment, lingering on the edges of daydreaming and phantasmagoria. Hypnagogia induced by near sleep deprivation:
<blockquote>"Would that I could keep squeezing that sperm for ever! For now, since by many prolonged, repeated experiences, I have perceived that in all cases man must eventually lower, or at least shift, his conceit of attainable felicity; not placing it anywhere in the intellect or the fancy; but in the wife, the heart, the bed, the table, the saddle, the fireside, the country; now that I have perceived all this, I am ready to squeeze case eternally. In thoughts of the visions of the night, I saw long rows of angels in paradise, each with his hands in a jar of spermaceti."</blockquote>
Ishamel is a biblical name from Genesis, being the son of Abraham and a slave, Hagar. Sarah, Abraham's wife, banished son and mother into the wilderness. There are many theological themes in this book (in addition to philosophy and poetry) as well, such as Jonah and the Whale. It has some of the best closing remarks I've gotten out of fiction in a long time, that I know of and can recall:
<blockquote>"and so the bird of heaven, with archangelic shrieks, and his imperial beak thrust upwards, and his whole captive form folded in the flag of Ahab, went down with his ship, which, like Satan, would not sink to hell till she had dragged a living part of heaven along with her, and helmeted herself with it."</blockquote>
Spoiler alert. Some people are familiar with the ending and know that they all die, besides Ishmael who is thrown overboard before the final encounter with the whale, and misses the event.
<blockquote>"Now small fowls flew screaming over the yet yawning gulf; a sullen white surf beat against its steep sides; then all collapsed, and the great shroud of the sea rolled on as it rolled five thousand years ago."</blockquote>
He is rescued by the Rachel, who was searching for its (her) own shipwrecked survivors, likened to Job, "And I only am escaped alone to tell thee."
I borrowed this from the library and ran out of time, unable to renew it, so I had to rent another edition and couldn't finish my reading of the Penguin I found. I finished it out using one that had chapter intros partially illustrated. I'd buy my own copy for later reference and use, and am quite excited to delve into his other works.”
Which is to just say “the opposite” or what someone didn’t say yet for either a lack of time or a paywall. I know most people haven’t read it, or did in high school and we’re required to write a paper about it so don’t talk about it nor want to, whether it’s pointless or not. At that point people seek other people out to get their perspective instead, presuming they not only did everything you did and/or plus or minus more just to get your perspective, or just plain didn’t and were different altogether meaning by logic your viewpoint is wanted or allowed for some reason, for want of some reputation or more money possibly. Thoughts?