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Hello,

What is a lucky charm? It seems to be the identity of the wearer (necklace charm).

Would INTPs have Eagle's talons?

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I think ElectricWizard really wanted an elaboration on what you meant by lucky charm and how it relates to eagle talons. But... thank you for expressing yourself?
 

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Uhh, I don't have any lucky charms. I don't need luck :) and I'm not superstitious in the slightest.
 

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It came spontaneously after finding a rabbit's skull and then I thought about rabbit's foots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm_bracelet

And some people have tatoo's of spiders and dragons and stars or whatever. I have never used charms because superstition and symbols mean nothing to me. However, they are important to girls and women, I am sure. But I don't understand and I have great difficulty without communication.

I can get really confused by the May Dance.
 

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...Perseus, has anyone told you that your enigmatic?

...is there a test for that?

I used to have a "lucky charm", a little blue metal fish made of interlocked pieces so it could wiggle back and forth like a real fish. I miss that little thing; don't know what happened to it.
 

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Yep, on the MTBI information sheets, one of the types comes up as enigmatic. It is not INTP. INFP comes up as metaphorical and fantastic, which is nearer.
 

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Lucky charms? That's Bullshit!
Anybody else love that show?
 

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It came spontaneously after finding a rabbit's skull and then I thought about rabbit's foots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm_bracelet

And some people have tatoo's of spiders and dragons and stars or whatever. I have never used charms because superstition and symbols mean nothing to me. However, they are important to girls and women, I am sure. But I don't understand and I have great difficulty without communication.

I can get really confused by the May Dance.

What?!?! Girls and women are not always more dependant on stupid, irrational things. Don't be so sure all the time.
 

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What?!?! Girls and women are not always more dependant on stupid, irrational things. Don't be so sure all the time.

NT Rational. Independent thoughts.
 

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Griffons/Gryphon/Griffen

One of the most introverted 'mythicals' that can occasionally be very very emotionally aroused if you do bad stuff.

Collect lots of gems in their lair and the ability to sense them. Which can be rather representive of mental processes if you want.

The griffon egg shell is made of sapphire. Which is just plain cool and depending on who you ask a symbol for mental clarity but mostly faithfulness.

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I always liked the little marshmallows... except after awhile they turn your milk brownish-green... yuck! :mad:+:p
 

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...but they are 'magically delicious'!

and full of 3 or 4 different kinds of sugars. :pYum!:p
 

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What does a Silver Cross necklace mean (cf. Sad-eyed Lady of the Lowlands).

What is the procedure. Does somebody buy her the necklace, or does she choose it for herself?
 

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Would the head of Meduse be an amulet? Would you carry one?

(Edit: I'm just merrily adding to the confusion)
 

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Well, it'd be really lame for hooking up with the ladies... or dudes... depending...
 

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I used to like that cereal, but one day I just thought it was way too sweet.

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Hm why would an INTP carry an amulet, Perseus, considering the rationals' tendency to skepticism?

Superstitions such as amulets and such are quite funny/interesting, yet dumb things. Last year, an aunt who's very into "magic" "energies" and all that new age BS gave me a little sheep sculpture. Supposedly you hang it on your door so that "it lets money in" (Because the spanish word for wool, "lana", is also slang for money). Ridiculous.

I've also considered the christian use of scapulars, medallions, and crucifixes to be interesting, all the syncretism behind them... You know, even drug lords have a patron saint...

Seriously. Why would wearing a couple of brown squares on a thread give you luck or grace or anything special, working as a substitute for actual belief?



Yet this reminds me that when I went apostate, I continued to wear my cross for several years. I thought it was an ironic gesture, and the fact that it was black and the christ had fallen off in an accident also helped giving it an air of satanism which made bible-thumpers awkward and I didn't really mind. But mainly I used it as a memento of my own gullibility and the deceptiveness of man and religion. I might still wear it if it weren't broken; in fact I still have the pieces in a box (together with all my other personal mementos/old junk. It's an INTP thing, right? Collecting objects because of their nostalgic associations).

Another thing that comes to mind is this leather bracelet I have. I really don't wear any "accesories" at all, I don't like wearing things that aren't mainly utilitarian, except for that one bracelet. It wasn't a gift or is anything special, it just so happened that one day I was thinking about how I always seemed to be wearing it whenever I was in a particularly confident and defiant mood. So now I utilize it as a sort of pavlovian conditioning focus object, wearing it whenever I actually want to get into that "stop hesitating and get what you deserve/desire" kind of mental state.

Like when you wear a costume or some particular clothes, and you can behave different because you feel it's not "you", it's like a game, a chameleon-style act.


I guess in that sense objects can have a relationship with a person's identity, but not as a magical fetish or amulet or charm as Perseus seemed to suggest.

(Edit: Arrrg! Sometimes it takes quite an effort to avoid beginning every sentence with an I.)
 

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For no particular reason, I have an orange, cloth, dollar-store-type bracelet on my right wrist that I never take off.
 

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I used to like that cereal, but one day I just thought it was way too sweet.

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Hm why would an INTP carry an amulet, Perseus, considering the rationals' tendency to skepticism?
(Edit: Arrrg! Sometimes it takes quite an effort to avoid beginning every sentence with an I.)

To warn off the Horsemen (ESFJ) and other Guardians.

Arrgh!!"! The Spy who Loved Me.

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I don`t see the point of having talisman. It`s only a thing, which is same as million other things which exist in this world, besides if I had talisman, I would lose it after few days anyway, and it`s another point of don`t having one.

There's a Hole in Reality through which We Can Look if We Wish

Yeah, there sure is... Maybe you should stop staring throught it so often?
 

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I had a bracelet (kind of... it was a bracelet that was like the cuff of a glove that had had the part that goes over the hand cut off) and it had a yin-yang on it. I wore it bloody everywhere until I lost it, but it wasn't because it was lucky or anything. it was because the yin-yang (balance) summed up my philosophy on life and because I liked it (I like sharp contrast). But, yeah, then I lost it. Now I don't have it anymore.

I also have a dinged-up red bottle opener on my keyring. Don't ask me why. I saw it when I was seven, in a hardware store, and said arbitrarily, "Mommy, can I have one of those? A red one." (You guys should try being only children with divorced parents. If it's in any way reasonable, they will give you it.) So yeah, I still have it. It must be a nostalgia thing, because I've had it so long. Likewise the stuffed doggy that I still sleep with. :rolleyes:
 

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Would the head of Meduse be an amulet? Would you carry one?

(Edit: I'm just merrily adding to the confusion)

Perseus will kill it using mirrors.
 

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Stheno and Euryale are immortal. I'll bet on them.
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So, how's Andromeda?
 

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To warn off the Horsemen (ESFJ) and other Guardians.

Care to explain how that would work?

(And I thought we kept them at bay with incomprehensibly abstract theory and unnecessary jargon ;))


If a girl carried around a medusa head in a conspicuous brown sack, I'd totally date her. That should guaranty to be a mighty interesting story and a seriously twisted mind.
 

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"Well, there was a guy in this forum, whose name was Perseus. He started talking about lucky charms, but his posts have always been pretty cryptic...so I started a quest to find the Gorgons, and after staring through a hole in the fabric of reality... and now I carry it in a sack"

We'd probably be buddies but I wouldn't date them till I was sure there'd be no more beheadings.

Edit: on second thought, wouldn't it stink? And the flies!
 

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If a girl carried around a medusa head in a conspicuous brown sack, I'd totally date her. That should guaranty to be a mighty interesting story and a seriously twisted mind.

...Gotta find a sword and a sack... Oh, no, wait, maybe some annoying person's head will do, and I can just staple snakes to it. ...Non-poisonous ones, of course, so I can't be killed by them. Okay. ...Hey! Over there-- I never liked that person. Off I go!
 

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Care to explain how that would work?

(And I thought we kept them at bay with incomprehensibly abstract theory and unnecessary jargon ;))

I expect it would not work. A Horseman (or Pony girl on the D train) do not take any notice of body language on a conquest/mission so I doubt if an amulet would stop the rape.
 

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It would if you hit them with it repeatedly. That red stain on my shirt is... ketchup, yeah. It's a real bugger to get out, bl--... ketchup.

I've been thinking, and say I actually do have a lucky charm and I bring it to tests to boost my score. Is the psychological effect of thinking the lucky charm will help me do well not likely to help me do well on the test? Conversely, if I forget it, is the loss of my 'lucky' charm not likely to affect me aversely? It's just the placebo effect without the pills, if you really manage to convince yourself that the whatever-it-is is lucky.
 

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Apotropaic magic
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The ancient blue and white "Nazar boncuğu" symbol, a stylised eye thought to "avert evil", appears on this contemporary airplaneApotropaic magic is a ritual observance that is intended to turn away evil. It can be as elaborate as the use of magical ceremonies or spells, or as simple as the vaguely superstitious carrying or wearing of a "good luck" token or "charm" (perhaps on a charm bracelet), crossing one's fingers or knocking on wood.


"Apotropaic" is an adjective that means "intended to ward off evil" or "averting or deflecting evil" and commonly refers to objects such as amulets or other symbols. The word is of Greek origin: apotrope literally means "turning away" or averting (as in "averting the evil eye"). The Greeks propitiated the chthonic "Gods of Aversion"—the apotropaioi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgoneion#Apotropaic_symbols
 

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Griffons/Gryphon/Griffen

One of the most introverted 'mythicals' that can occasionally be very very emotionally aroused if you do bad stuff.

Collect lots of gems in their lair and the ability to sense them. Which can be rather representive of mental processes if you want.

The griffon egg shell is made of sapphire. Which is just plain cool and depending on who you ask a symbol for mental clarity but mostly faithfulness.

________Granted_____

When all else fails logic I feel naked when I'm not wearing my flash drive or using it.

Eerie. The only tattoo I've ever considered getting is of a griffin. When I read the first post of the thread, it's the first thing I thought of. Finding a community of INTPs is sort of freaking me out. :)

Attached is a picture of a shirt I own with a griffin emblazoned on it:
 

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I have a lucky necklace if that counts?
It's a piece of black obsidian in a heart shape.
 

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Perseus said:
Apotropaic magic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Gorgoneion)

The ancient blue and white "Nazar boncuğu" symbol, a stylised eye thought to "avert evil", appears on this contemporary airplaneApotropaic magic is a ritual observance that is intended to turn away evil. It can be as elaborate as the use of magical ceremonies or spells, or as simple as the vaguely superstitious carrying or wearing of a "good luck" token or "charm" (perhaps on a charm bracelet), crossing one's fingers or knocking on wood.

"Apotropaic" is an adjective that means "intended to ward off evil" or "averting or deflecting evil" and commonly refers to objects such as amulets or other symbols. The word is of Greek origin: apotrope literally means "turning away" or averting (as in "averting the evil eye"). The Greeks propitiated the chthonic "Gods of Aversion"—the apotropaioi.

Just so everyone will actually be able to read that. The background here is kinda dark, you know? So dark font colours don't work so well...

I found a cool rock. It travels everywhere in my pencil case because I like it. It's probably not lucky or anything, but it's... sharp. And jabby. And orangey. And I like it.


And stop making me miss Lucky Charms, you evil sods.
 
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