Joe Rogan

[Pizzabeak]

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[Analyzer]

ESP

 

[PmjPmj]

ENTJ.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Plz explain

 

[PmjPmj]

First and foremost, he's a challenger. He's got massive balls, and doesn't give a shit about putting people in their place. He's also full of knowledge. His whole shtick (podcast wise) is inviting guests on who typically have specialist knowledge. He loves nothing more than learning more and more, and he almost always has something intelligent to say.

He's a firm proponent of psychedelics, and whilst he has an open mind, he can smell bullshit a mile off.

Dude is ENTJ. I'm utterly convinced of that.

Te - challenging; steadfast and 'robust'.
Ni - broad, ever expanding horizons. He sees patterns and links things together with ease - just listen to his podcasts if you need proof of this.
Se - fascination with martial arts etc; many ENxJs have this in common (phsyical exercise benefits them massively). My wife, for example (ENTJ) does body combat, dancing, running, you name it. I know one ENFJ who does Muay Thai, and another who likes to push their limits with those warrior workouts, or whatever the fuck they're called (basically, lots of lifting, grunting and sweating)
Fi - He's been developing this over the years. He used to be a lot more hot-headed and trollish, but now he's very mindful of others. He's willing to show vulnerability and he'll stick up for the underdog - but this is learned, not innate.

He's an exceptionally well developed (imo) ENTJ.

 

[dang]

First and foremost, he's a challenger. He's got massive balls, and doesn't give a shit about putting people in their place. He's also full of knowledge. His whole shtick (podcast wise) is inviting guests on who typically have specialist knowledge. He loves nothing more than learning more and more, and he almost always has something intelligent to say.

He's a firm proponent of psychedelics, and whilst he has an open mind, he can smell bullshit a mile off.

Dude is ENTJ. I'm utterly convinced of that.

Te - challenging; steadfast and 'robust'.
Ni - broad, ever expanding horizons. He sees patterns and links things together with ease - just listen to his podcasts if you need proof of this.
Se - fascination with martial arts etc; many ENxJs have this in common (phsyical exercise benefits them massively). My wife, for example (ENTJ) does body combat, dancing, running, you name it. I know one ENFJ who does Muay Thai, and another who likes to push their limits with those warrior workouts, or whatever the fuck they're called (basically, lots of lifting, grunting and sweating)
Fi - He's been developing this over the years. He used to be a lot more hot-headed and trollish, but now he's very mindful of others. He's willing to show vulnerability and he'll stick up for the underdog - but this is learned, not innate.

He's an exceptionally well developed (imo) ENTJ.

Are his podcasts worth checking out? I thought he had transitioned from comedy and acting to fighting.

 

[PmjPmj]

I'd say so, yeah. There are hundreds to choose from, and he has some incredible guests.

He's especially good to listen to if you're into psychedelics and the like.

 

[dang]

I'd say so, yeah. There are hundreds to choose from, and he has some incredible guests.

He's especially good to listen to if you're into psychedelics and the like.

MMA and acid? Interesting combo.

 

[Pizzabeak]

First and foremost, he's a challenger. He's got massive balls, and doesn't give a shit about putting people in their place. He's also full of knowledge. His whole shtick (podcast wise) is inviting guests on who typically have specialist knowledge. He loves nothing more than learning more and more, and he almost always has something intelligent to say.

He's a firm proponent of psychedelics, and whilst he has an open mind, he can smell bullshit a mile off.

Dude is ENTJ. I'm utterly convinced of that.

Te - challenging; steadfast and 'robust'.
Ni - broad, ever expanding horizons. He sees patterns and links things together with ease - just listen to his podcasts if you need proof of this.
Se - fascination with martial arts etc; many ENxJs have this in common (phsyical exercise benefits them massively). My wife, for example (ENTJ) does body combat, dancing, running, you name it. I know one ENFJ who does Muay Thai, and another who likes to push their limits with those warrior workouts, or whatever the fuck they're called (basically, lots of lifting, grunting and sweating)
Fi - He's been developing this over the years. He used to be a lot more hot-headed and trollish, but now he's very mindful of others. He's willing to show vulnerability and he'll stick up for the underdog - but this is learned, not innate.

He's an exceptionally well developed (imo) ENTJ.

It could be that he resides on his tert Te if he were EXFP. Then that could explain some of that... It just, to me, seemed like he was a lead Pe, for some of the reasons you made. Fi oriented individuals can also be challenging or steadfast because of its connection to Te. It's hard to say which is Dom and which inferior from this. He didn't really have a long career in martial arts I believe, and quit while he was ahead so he could teach it and prevent any brain damage. He's then gotten involved with acting and stuff and says he loves people, which seemed like an Enfp kind of thing. I'm sure ENTJ could do that too; because of his maturity maybe he can do that with the Fi - as I've said, it's hard for me to differentiate at this point.

I don't intimately know any ENTJ so I can't say. To me it seemed his Te was in conjunction with a more aware Fi.

MMA and acid? Interesting combo.

He's never done acid yet but is very into MMA. He takes a lot about weed and society though.

 

[Pizzabeak]

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[Pizzabeak]

First and foremost, he's a challenger. He's got massive balls, and doesn't give a shit about putting people in their place. He's also full of knowledge. His whole shtick (podcast wise) is inviting guests on who typically have specialist knowledge. He loves nothing more than learning more and more, and he almost always has something intelligent to say.

He's a firm proponent of psychedelics, and whilst he has an open mind, he can smell bullshit a mile off.

Dude is ENTJ. I'm utterly convinced of that.

Te - challenging; steadfast and 'robust'.
Ni - broad, ever expanding horizons. He sees patterns and links things together with ease - just listen to his podcasts if you need proof of this.
Se - fascination with martial arts etc; many ENxJs have this in common (phsyical exercise benefits them massively). My wife, for example (ENTJ) does body combat, dancing, running, you name it. I know one ENFJ who does Muay Thai, and another who likes to push their limits with those warrior workouts, or whatever the fuck they're called (basically, lots of lifting, grunting and sweating)
Fi - He's been developing this over the years. He used to be a lot more hot-headed and trollish, but now he's very mindful of others. He's willing to show vulnerability and he'll stick up for the underdog - but this is learned, not innate.

He's an exceptionally well developed (imo) ENTJ.

Actually, I think this may be right. I wasn't entirely sure of his type which is why I brought it up a few times. If I knew more ENTJ it would be different, I know this one and it made me rethink it. It's the Se they have and how the type works on paper against reality, in other words, their motivations and what they get a rise out of. I wasn't sure how much a factor the inferior really plays in their life.

But the other thing is that people say ENTJ and INTP make a good team (romantically) but it shouldn't be automatic; you have to prove your utility. That having been said they use Te and Ni, which are quite different and the opposite of what INTPs use. Conscientiousness aside, they need constant information to fuel their Te world building incidents. I wasn't sure how Te exactly worked in its various positions and although I have met some INTJ, it seems there isn't always enough time for people to get along and have fun.

 

[Pizzabeak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnH67G7vAu4

So recently MBTI was brought up on the podcast prompting some serious debate in the episode with Milo Yiannopoulos. He said he thought Joe Rogan was more the lawyer type but the conversation quickly shifted into the typical "MBTI is bullshit" route.

I always took him to be EXFP but it's been considered that he could be a T type. I thought he used certain functions but it could be something else, since the two types use the same functions. Do you think he could be of the more lawyer type persuasion?

 

[ENTP lurker]

Again we see a person with very accepting of N information. This makes him S dominant and Se dominant to be more specific.

ESTP.

 

[DaDaMan]

He seems annoying as F.

 

[PmjPmj]

Milo is a fucking baller.

 

[QuickTwist]

MMA and acid? Interesting combo.

Pretty typical actually.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Don't think he's ESTP. Seems more Ne-Fi. Don't know him personally but he also seems Ni-Se sometimes, specifically maybe ENTJ could be a good match.

 

[QuickTwist]

Don't think he's ESTP. Seems more Ne-Fi. Don't know him personally but he also seems Ni-Se sometimes, specifically maybe ENTJ could be a good match.

I don't see a world where he is an F of any kind.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I don't know - he at least seems more Fi than Ti. But maybe he is ESFP or ESTJ? Don't know anymore, I'd have to bet on some Te-Fi motivation. He's actually a pretty small guy and I heard on one of his podcasts that he said he was quiet growing up and not that funny, and never would have seen himself becoming a comedian.

 

[QuickTwist]

I don't know - he at least seems more Fi than Ti. But maybe he is ESFP or ESTJ? Don't know anymore, I'd have to bet on some Te-Fi motivation. He's actually a pretty small guy and I heard on one of his podcasts that he said he was quiet growing up and not that funny, and never would have seen himself becoming a comedian.

IMO, that is function jibberish. I don't see the guy as an F at all.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Just explain it, then. He seems extraverted with an inner judging cognition secondary. My understanding of the functions could be wrong. However, you could have a T type doing that stuff; could be all the drug use but he seems Ne. I'm almost hoping I'm wrong, by the way.

 

[QuickTwist]

Just explain it, then. He seems extraverted with an inner judging cognition secondary. My understanding of the functions could be wrong. However, you could have a T type doing that stuff; could be all the drug use but he seems Ne. I'm almost hoping I'm wrong, by the way.

Na, he has outward judging when it comes to people (Fe). He could be extrovert and prolly is though. He is Se lead. ESTP. Also, the profile fits him pretty well - he's very laid back in conversation.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Maybe I don't really know him but he doesn't seem to be as loud and boisterous as some other ESTP I may know. But maybe he is. Still not sure if he's Ti. He sometimes seems more Fi who leans on Te use more extensively than usual.

 

[QuickTwist]

Maybe I don't really know him but he doesn't seem to be as loud and boisterous as some other ESTP I may know. But maybe he is. Still not sure if he's Ti. He sometimes seems more Fi who leans on Te use more extensively than usual.

Being laid back in conversation is an ESTP trait. They are not boisterous in conversation, only when they are doing some action that "ramps them up." The guy clearly uses logic to base his decisions on.

 

[Pizzabeak]

What decisions? I haven't seen any new episodes yet so I don't know.

 

[QuickTwist]

What decisions? I haven't seen any new episodes yet so I don't know.

Decisions in what he chooses to talk about maybe? Judgement calls. Opinions. He sees something and immediately acts on it with a logical stance.

 

[Pizzabeak]

It depends, do you have other examples of who you think may be ESTP? It could just as well be Fi justification. Logic is included.

 

[QuickTwist]

It depends, do you have other examples of who you think may be ESTP? It could just as well be Fi justification. Logic is included.

Well, my cousin is ESTP.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I might have some too. Honestly, your argument doesn't make much sense. He's into what he's into - reality, nature, sports. As a mature person feeling functions can use and rely on logic just as well and it wouldn't necessarily mean they are T preferring.

 

[Flying177]

Ya'll are over your heads with Rogan. He's an INTP. I know because I used to listen to Sam Harris. That distinct INTP monotone speech pattern when he comes to discuss his ideas is a total giveaway. Also he's just into his own logical knowledge/ideas too much to be any other type.

 

[Pizzabeak]

He has a real ISTJ bent which is one reason why I initially typed him as ENFP.

 

[Pizzabeak]

The joke is, Rogan and Cassady could be ENTP. I still think they're ENFP though.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Vincent Horn from Buddhist Geeks could be INTP, assuming Rogan is ENFP.

 

[Black Rose]

Joe Rogan is very (Ne)

 

[Pizzabeak]

Firas Zahabi could be ENTP, there have been a few examples of those before on the show. To me, it seems subtle, that's how you know they're that kind of ENTP. It's way different from INTP, dom or aux functions plus other changes make a huge difference when you plot out the change. It just shows a clear attitude difference between Fi or Ti. Dom Ne also has body differences, more endomorphic. Tertiary Fe makes them more sociable and less awkward, if any type could be with "inferior F". The way they see the world makes them care more. Unbalanced inferior function use could suck. It depends on if you know ENTPs or can type them. Otherwise it wouldn't need that much explanation. So I'd say he's ENFP not ENTJ, they just both have Te-Fi.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Ultradavid - ENFP

 

[Pizzabeak]

Here's a video of some of his commentary work, which shows more of his personality. He could be INTP actually but might still be ENFP:
Another:

 

[Pizzabeak]

ENTP are more so the "Byronic hero" archetype of the human unconscious whereas ENFP are more like the "boys". Think, a Tom Sawyer type or an extreme case could be Neal Cassady. That's why INTP has "auxiliary Ne", from my experience, it would be interesting to observe that it "isn't as developed, or more subconscious", as a communication function, could display why they're insensitive or awkward, but not socially unaware. Fi in INFP makes them less awkward socially, although they could be quiet or not speak up. Fi is "if you don't do it then you can't", except in reality it doesn't mean that. You could still do something and choose not to do so, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Although, it depends on your beliefs and lifestyle.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Already did a little digression on ENTPs, just to see if there's a comparison with ENFP, so I'm going to follow up on it to make sure it made sense (?), although I'm really meaning to post something else (can't remember, or exactly post it all in a duplication but it was good). Either ENTP are exaggerated INTP or INTP are inversed ENTP, keeping it all in mind. You can't not imagine it, in the survival scenarios (think Lord of the Flies) they'll want sensors to die first (it's worth the risk).

 

[Pizzabeak]

Dan Bilzerian is clearly ENTP.

Kind of like "INTP" except "bigger", more larger than life or extroverted.

Terence McKenna is also ENTP, although he might be INTP.

He seems more extroverted and might like when INTPs don't try to use too much Ne irl. Although, he was also Dennis McKenna's older brother so he had that responsibility and might be why he appears more E if he is I. Although, he's probably ENTP, the more "smaller", "scholarly" type, compared to, say, Dan Bilzerian. I wouldn't jump the boat and say that means Dan is actually ESTP or something.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Elon Musk is also ENTP

 

[PmjPmj]

Elon Musk is (I believe) INTJ with high sleep/consume energy. Blast last, hence mumblefuck.

I was correct with my assertion ages back that Joe Rogan is an ENTJ who is good at Se. He is in fact a 'jumper' - Te/Se.

Learn gudder personality stuff. Y'all talking fucking shit. Update your knowledge.

 

[PmjPmj]

Oh, and you're bang on with TM. He is an ENTP.

So good work there, etc.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Elon Musk is (I believe) INTJ with high sleep/consume energy. Blast last, hence mumblefuck.

I was correct with my assertion ages back that Joe Rogan is an ENTJ who is good at Se. He is in fact a 'jumper' - Te/Se.

Learn gudder personality stuff. Y'all talking fucking shit. Update your knowledge.

I simply can not believe this. Daniel Pinchbeck is an ENTJ:

He has Se. Joe Rogan must be ENFP with high/good Te (he's like 50 y.o. at this point). Chris Pratt is also ENFP. They're like the "salesmen" (Shamwow guy).
Pinchbeck likes consumption (he was an acid head from the artworld). Right now he's focused on corporate megastructures and the economy/environment, which points to dominant Te going out of control (like how Ti would go Dr. Manhattan), except he's trying to build, and is obsessed with Blockchain technologies.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Oh, and you're bang on with TM. He is an ENTP.

So good work there, etc.

Jordan Peterson is INTJ (I believe). Musk may be ENTJ or P.

 

[PmjPmj]

You're using outdated terms / information.

Right now, you sound like an idiot child to me.

Bathe in the golden light I now emit. Stick around long enough and I might teach you a thing or five, ya fucking spacker.

 

[Pizzabeak]

No I don’t, no I’m not, you troll. I’m pretty much using the same terminology as the new PO link you posted, which all new systems just add a few more things for you to learn as it defines their hypothesis more clearly for other people.

The third function is a unique “resting state” function which is why it’s somewhat the most obvious to see, sometimes. Rogan = ENFP, which is why you see Te in him. Ne could also look like Se. I wouldn’t say he’s “good” at it - either that or he’s ESFP. Pinchbeck could also be ESTJ - put two of the same type in a room and interesting things could happen (see his interview with Peter Joseph to see two different ENTJ going at it). Architect liked the sixth function, which in INTP is Ni, which is time based, and references future events with past actions when in the present.

 

[PmjPmj]

Damn son, you're so full of shit.

Go get educated. You fucking mumblespack.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Nah it's kinda fuckin' stupid actually, you're better off learning any other system that someone else made. They hardly ever help unless it's on your own existential crisis spiritual journey. If it hasn't been working out ever then switch up your approach. OP is just the latest fad that someone put enough effort into to design a website for it. No one really cares about what they brought to the table or what they try to say about anything via constructive criticism; they aren't smarter than anyone else.

 

[PmjPmj]

I was going to type an angry response, but I got a crumb stuck in my keyboard and felt compelled to remove it.

It was a delicate and lengthy operation, and I have since forgotten whatever it was I was about to say.

So I'll just call you a mumblespack again, because that's what you are.

You mumblespack.