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Halcyon

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So that's what we are called? We are INTPs. We comprise 2.5% of the population. The best 2.5% of the population;). The only other INTP I've ever known is my older brother. Until a couple of years ago, I wasted a lot of my time hanging out with people and doing social stuff that I considered.. well.. a waste of time. I never really understood why people enjoyed hanging around doing pretty much nothing. I just went along because I felt compelled to. Even my parents would say "its a friday night, why don't you go hang out with your friends?" They were my friends, yes, but they were not INTP! I couldn't identify with them. I never have. Also, I don't consider it a matter of social vs. anti-social. These people were just a waste of my time. I would gladly have spent some time with some INTP friends or any one with... god forbid... ambitions!
This was when I realzied that high schoolers were entrenched in their anti-intellecual culture and I had better plans for myself.

I had always been goal-oriented and hungry to learn, but I had also been holding back. As a member of a society that was pressuring me to conform to its scoial values, there were certain cognitive inhibitions I had to overcome. For all of this, I am stronger now. I have let loose my ravenous appetite for mastery on my all-consuming passions. In the past, my passions would consume me and I would only nibble back, feeling unfulfilled. But things have changed now. I no longer nibble; I devour.

With that being said, here's a few things about myself and what I've been doing over the past few years. Foremost, I am a language learner. I learned Spanish in school and and I took up learning Japanese on my own. Most people have the preconception that Japanese is a near-impossible language to master (and I think you know how INTPs feel about preconceptions!). So I created an intelligent system to learn the language through visual mnemonics. It took a few months to learn kana, 2500 kanji, and 1000s of vocab words. I've been learning the language for about 3 years, but I was more concerned with prefecting the system and training my visualization skills during that time. Nevertheless, I have been humbled by how difficult a task it is to learn a language, and I won't have mastered either of them for years to come.
Since then I've also become interested in devloping learning systems. Traditional education is there to cater largely to an audience of people who would not take it upon themselves to learn otherwise. Its certainly doesn't cater to the INTP. If you've ever questioned a teacher's rules and they answered "Because I'm the teacher" then you know what I'm talking about.
I also play several intruments. Primarily I'm a drummer and I've been playing for about 7 years (and am now a compulsive beat-boxer). I go to college next year where I plan to pursue cognitive science/linguistics/psychology.

Most of all, I am the rational architect, at the pinnacle of the INTP. It is nice to meet you.
 

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Well from one new person to another, welcome.

Sounds like you might have some J in there somewhere will all those goals and ambitions, maybe you are just the best of us. But seeing through the bs of most people and the shortcomings of things like public education is what being and INTP is all about, so, I think you still make the cut.

In line with your dissenting view on education, and since you are a musician, I have always found music education to be a bit rigid. I always find myself saying "why does the scale have to look like this when put on a page? who decided that was the only way? and how can that possibly be the best way when so many people learn and process things differently?" But anyway.

Languages aren't real, it is just one big language, called earth. :)
 

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G'day
hopefully you find some enlightening, insightful (or at least entertaining) discussion.
What's living with another INTP like?
 

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Hi
I'm one the Old codgers on the forum.
I'm into Cognitive Psych./ Philosophy of Mind stuff
there are several old threads in the Archives you might find interesting,
as well as http://consc.net/chalmers/

In any event

WELCOME HOME!
 
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I read the tile of this thread as, "It's about time we're wet".
 

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Welcome......
 

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welcome. I would develop my interest in languages more if I had the time. I had a very easy time with Spanish in high school, and I'd like to try something else.
 

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Welcome Halycon.

You have quite a bit in common with others here.

Enjoy your stay.
 

Halcyon

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Sounds like you might have some J in there somewhere will all those goals and ambitions, maybe you are just the best of us.

Yea, I definitely have some J in me, but I identify myself as an INTP. I am much more easygoing and flexible within my own personality than I feel a J would be. There are areas in my life where I need to be an architect and areas where I must be a mastermind. I become whatever I have to so that I may paint my future as whatever image I so desire.

In fact my J and P sometimes conflict. I always have 10-15 (seriously) projects going on at once that I never finish. I take on things that I never drop and make it my goal to eventually finish them. So I figure out the best way to complete all of them within a timeframe and write out an entire plan/schedule to follow for the next year. Of course, I rarely stick to the schedule. I simply revel in knowing that if I did stick to it, I would have accomplished extraordinary things.



What's living with another INTP like?

We share a very strong INTP bond , but we act the way you would expect two ambitious introverted people. We are usually engrossed in our respective pursuits of mastery. Still, I am always happier when he is home (he's in college) and we share very similar interests (I was very influenced by him). If anything, I would characterize our INTP-brother bond as silent yet unshakeable.

I read the tile of this thread as, "It's about time we're wet".
That was my alternative choice:D. Btw your avatar cracked me up.



Thanks for welcoming me and reading all this stuff I write.:)
 

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Hey Halcyon, welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy it here :)
 

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Only 4 posts and I like you already. Welcome to the forum.
 

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Welcome to the forum Halycon. Since Ogion isn't here right now, I've copied and pasted his famous greeting especially for you:

'Hi and welcome to the forum. May you find interesting and enlightening discussions.' :)
 

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Hi Halycon! Nice to meet you! :)

edit: sorry didn't mean to welcome you twice! (I have no memory sorry). Your post brings back some memories: I remember questioning my teachers in high school math: but why does it work like this? And the answer was "Just memorize it"! I believe that a lot of students are robbed of a wonderful aspect of life by being told everything. Learning should be about discovery, but that is another topic...
 

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Only 4 posts and I like you already. Welcome to the forum.
Don't mean to be a pessimist (though I can't help it) but I don't think Halcyon is coming back any time soon.

:(
 

FF

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I think we scared him(?) away with our enthusiastic greetings. No one greeted me and I'm still here. lol
I see. I was greeted quite a bit, and I'm still here. I guess it just depends on your time, and whether you think you'll get along with the other members or not.

Although I'll be honest, the dark, sexy layout is what really attracted me to this place. ;)
 

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FF was a bully and scared Halcyon away. And he had such a cool name too. :(
 

FF

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FF was a bully and scared Halcyon away. And he had such a cool name too. :(
I am a bully, aren't I?

"GTFO HALCYON, my name is BETTER!"

*halcyon gtfo's*
 

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Oh, jar breeze, I forgot to check the date stamps. Sorry about that! :p
 

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Date stamps always trip me up, I have become excited about way too many forums only to realize later that they were all months (or years) old. :(
 

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Learning should be about discovery, but that is another topic...

Ha yea don't get me started on the school system. I recently wrote a satire about this matter. Also I took a bit of wisdom from Mark Twain for my yearbook quote: "I've never let my schooling interfere with my education."

May you find interesting and enlightening discussions.' :)

I turned on the light en my basement but it turned out not to be half as enlightening as the enlightenment I received from this forum. You just unconsciously reached enlightenment after reading that sentence:phear:. (that emoticon is a ninja right?)

Don't mean to be a pessimist (though I can't help it) but I don't think Halcyon is coming back any time soon.

:(

I never left. It is just time consuming for me to make posts and my time is already consumed by many other things. If I make 2 posts a month you'll know I'm still alive.

I think we scared him(?) away with our enthusiastic greetings.

I've survived far scarier enthusiasm. Try being greeted by ESFPs (cringes from memory)

I guess it just depends on your time, and whether you think you'll get along with the other members or not.

This place is like a haven for INTPs. I've never been able to relate to so many people in my life. My lack of posts just reflects my lack of time.



:)
 

FF

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I never left. It is just time consuming for me to make posts and my time is already consumed by many other things. If I make 2 posts a month you'll know I'm still alive.

This place is like a haven for INTPs. I've never been able to relate to so many people in my life. My lack of posts just reflects my lack of time.
Alright then...good to have you back. You seem like the kind of person you will post some enlightening things...

Although I may be completely wrong...

Although I hope I'm not...
 

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Ah, so you didn't leave? Then I'll welcome you here too. Hope you enjoy your stay here.
 

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Languages aren't real, it is just one big language, called earth. :)
Hahaha

Welcome Halycon. I've been trying to learn lojban, an artificial language, so I got interested when you talked about your study plan for Japanese. You should share more details on it. :D
 
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