Intuitives and ADHD

[nearfantastica]

I have no doubt that there's been similar topics, but I've just read an interesting article. Is there a really strong connection between ADHD and those that are N dominant? Are we all more or less cursed - or, depending on your view, blessed?

"Not being completely focused on a task lets the mind make associations that might not have happened otherwise.”

http://www.a-health-blog.com/study-finds-that-adhd-adults-more-creative.html

 

[Grayman]

There have been instances where Ne or Ti or Fi functions have been misdiagnosed as ADHD.

They are similar.

Perhaps ADHD is a unbalanced usage of Extraverted and Introverted functions of Ne or Se and Ti or Fi.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I'd be curious what would differentiate Ne ADHD vs Ni ADHD in those circumstances.

I personally believe that ADHD (a "disorder" of attention/perception) falls on the schizophrenic spectrum. Current conventional belief is that the inattentiveness observed in those on the schizophrenic spectrum is different than that in ADHD (and that of bipolar disorder), but I wonder if this is function-related? Say... Bipolar hypomania might be akin to a certain manifestation of the Ne-Fe loop, for example.

 

[nearfantastica]

I've also been wondering if ADHD makes the INTP, or vice versa...

I was diagnosed with ADHD years ago, but have, since being submersed into the world of MBTI, been seeing a good deal of similarities between my type and my diagnosis.

 

[Grayman]

I'd be curious what would differentiate Ne ADHD vs Ni ADHD in those circumstances.

I personally believe that ADHD (a "disorder" of attention/perception) falls on the schizophrenic spectrum. Current conventional belief is that the inattentiveness observed in those on the schizophrenic spectrum is different than that in ADHD (and that of bipolar disorder), but I wonder if this is function-related? Say... Bipolar hypomania might be akin to a certain manifestation of the Ne-Fe loop, for example.

I don't recognize anything relatable to schizophrenia and ADHD.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Well I consider myself likely eligible for an ADHD-PI (non-hyperactive version) diagnosis... I also did think EPs had a tendency to exhibit traits of ADHD.

 

[r4ch3l]

All of the ENFPs I know have early-diagnosed ADHD. I have read that xNxPs are the types most likely to have ADD and would imagine that the INxPs tend to be the inattentive type vs. the hyperactive type. I used to self-medicate my scatterbrain with Adderall and have considered getting properly evaluated and getting on a low dose again. Too P to function. When I'm not on it I just drift off and feel like I have no place in this world.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Comparing ADHD to Schizophrenia seems more than a stretch to me. Doubt ADHD correlates with intuition either. Creativity comes in many forms.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I don't recognize anything relatable to schizophrenia and ADHD.

Comparing ADHD to Schizophrenia seems more than a stretch to me. Doubt ADHD correlates with intuition either. Creativity comes in many forms.

Keep in mind I said spectrum. I'd consider (some forms of) ADHD a 1/10 on the same scale that sustained full blown hallucinations are a 10. On the schizo spectrum, for example, inattention is (believed to be) the result of a thought disorder.

The thing with inattention is that there are different apparent causes that produce the same apparent result, which is demonstrated by the ineffectiveness of some medication classes against certain causes, e.g. stimulants don't remedy inattention in those on the bipolar or schizophrenic spectra.

The reason it seems like such a stretch is because of relative scale distance; i.e. if you place the autistic, schizophrenic, and bipolar spectra on X, Y, and Z axes, respectively, then ADHD and ADHD-like symptoms tend to cluster around 0,0,0 ("normal") +/- 2,2,2.

 

[Brontosaurie]

no. the quintessential ADHD patient (punintended) is an ESxP

 

[PmjPmj]

I've been told that I have ADD (Ni dom) but I didn't really pay much attention to the diagnosis.

 

[crippli]

Psycological litterature often use a few concepts to measure selective attention. Priming(negative and positive). And from that interference and inhibition. Basically it's processes that ignores irrelevant information.

So I can see that N decreases interference and inhibition. And therefor reduces selective attention. On the other hand if the task is to take in all information about a situation, and quickly put in place proper ignore mechanisms towards irrelevant information. I at least do not see why Ne should be a handicap. Research i've seen indicates that ADHD have increased interference and priming, making them not take in all information.

Not sure this was clear. But the process of ignoring might be just as important, as that of focusing. And bad if these processes are overdone in both directions. ADHD would be in one direction(autism). The other possibly towards the schizo spectrum. I would think Ns would be more in the latter lair, if at all correlated. Instead of more interference and negative priming, there is less. For the normal person it might look somewhat similar regarding (in)attention.

 

[Reality is Optional]

So many people are misdiagnosed with ADHD or ADD. My guess is the misdiagnosed people have all been xNxP, or something similar. A few people actually think that ADHD and ADD aren't real mental conditions. I guess some people really honestly do have ADHD or ADD where they are unable to focus, and maybe INTP's have it. Though I would think that most INTP's diagnosed with ADHD or ADD are probably misdiagnosed, because when we really want to, INTP's are typically the type that has the ability to concentrate the most (When we really want to). People with ADD and ADHD don't have the ability to concentrate for more than a certain amount of time; many people get not particularly wanting to concentrate and not able to concentrate mixed up. INTPs also get set off into thinking of something else often, so that could also contribute to a false diagnosis of ADHD.